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Baer383 10-11-2012 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tonythetiger (Post 1957044)
Awesome DIY, before u pull out the fuse do u need the car to be on ACC???
Turn the key on till you hear the lock disengage then pull the fuse.

tonythetiger 10-13-2012 08:46 PM
thanks! did this today, and works like a charm!

Baer383 10-13-2012 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tonythetiger (Post 1960260)
thanks! did this today, and works like a charm!
Your welcome:tiphat:

didymus 10-14-2012 06:00 PM
Thanks for the DIY, removed the fuse today. Those clips are a bit tricky, would recommend a large flathead and twisting them up. A hammer used lightly might help getting them back in.

Baer383 10-14-2012 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by didymus (Post 1961243)
Thanks for the DIY, removed the fuse today. Those clips are a bit tricky, would recommend a large flathead and twisting them up. A hammer used lightly might help getting them back in.
Yeah the clips are alittle hard to deal with.:hello:

didymus 10-15-2012 08:48 PM
Those of you who removed the fuse, does the steering wheel still lock in position when car is off? I assumed that was what we were disabling...

Baer383 10-15-2012 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by didymus (Post 1963569)
Those of you who removed the fuse, does the steering wheel still lock in position when car is off? I assumed that was what we were disabling...
No the lock is disabled.

didymus 10-15-2012 09:15 PM
Ok NVM i just checked. Forgot how hard it is to turn those big tires without power steering! LOL

.c2 10-19-2012 12:25 AM
Holy crap just 2 days ago my steering lock died completely and my car wouldn't turn on. Called a tow truck already but an hour and a half later it magically started to work again. Intelligent key light has been on for the past 2 weeks intermittently. Still working so far but no idea when it's going to die, going to do this DIY tomorrow while it's still working! I really hope this works

.c2 10-19-2012 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by YamahaR6 (Post 1923708)
Here's some pictures and procedure to remove the steering fuse lock (sorry for the poor quality and follow at your own risk).
Before you begin, disengage the steering lock by pressing the "start" button "without" starting the car (don't press your clutch/brakes for automatics). You will hear the lock disengage then begin.

Step 1:

Open the hood (if you don't know how, don't proceed any further).

Step 2:

Remove the battery cover (if you don't know how, skip to Step 9).

Step 3:

http://www.the370z.com/picture.php?a...ictureid=55405

Remove the battery bracket. There are 4 plastic clip holding it. Pop the plastic clip open with a flat headed screw driver and pull it out. Slide the bracket towards the passenger side fender as the bracket is under the sway bar.

Step 4:

http://www.the370z.com/picture.php?a...ictureid=55404

Remove HALF of the plastic weather stripe. The weather stripe goes all the way to the driver side so you don't have to remove the entire thing. There are 4-5 clips that needs to unplug. To remove them, gently twists and pull upwards (these clips are plastic so they will break).

Step 5:

http://www.the370z.com/picture.php?a...ictureid=55403

There are 2-3 (forgot exactly how many and forgot picture) plastic clips holding the cover (highlighted in blue at Step 4). Remove the clips with a flat head. At the top corner of the piece there's a soft plastic piece locking the cover (hard to see in the picture,), lift that piece and it will unlock the cover and slide towards the front of the car.

Step 6:

http://www.the370z.com/picture.php?a...ictureid=55402

You can now fully access the fuse box. Pop open the two clips and slide the box upwards.

Step 7:

http://www.the370z.com/picture.php?a...ictureid=55401

Open the box and locate the fuses and remove it. I couldn't locate the 370z fuse tweezer (for those who does, a picture would be greatly appreciated), so I used my Audi's tweezer. Keep the 10amp fuse in a safe place just incase.

Step 8:

Complete, do the reverse order and put everything back together and you are done.

Step 9:

Enjoy your ride.


Time: 10 mins (took me longer to write the DIY than actually doing it)
Difficult: 1 (compared to an oil change 5)

2 weeks in and no issue or warning.


^That should be added in the first post! Except you don't have to remove the weather stripping, you can pop the entire piece in step 5 along with the weather stripping still attached (just make sure you don't move it too far out so the weather stripping won't fall off).

Just pulled my fuse today and it does start quicker than usual since the steering wheel doesn't have to unlock itself every time you start the car. Thank god, saved me $500 from buying a new part :)

Baer383 10-19-2012 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by .c2 (Post 1970483)

^That should be added in the first post! Except you don't have to remove the weather stripping, you can pop the entire piece in step 5 along with the weather stripping still attached (just make sure you don't move it too far out so the weather stripping won't fall off).

Just pulled my fuse today and it does start quicker than usual since the steering wheel doesn't have to unlock itself every time you start the car. Thank god, saved me $500 from buying a new part :)
Your welcome :tup:

Reps are accepted as payment.

.c2 10-19-2012 04:41 PM
:) Repped!

xnismo370zx 10-19-2012 10:47 PM
THIS IS FOR THE PEOPLE WHEN YOUR IS FULLY LOCKED. My 2009 370z showed the key light on the left side turning on two times once yesterday and once today. Later at night it did not turn on. I went online to check it out came across this. And thought the fuze taking off would help. Nop.. Because I could not push the button at all. Well I thought about it and got mad. If I jump the lock of the steering out so that I can just push the button so the lock pops out. I kicked my steering wheel while I was outside three times hard... my friends thought I was crazy. I heard the lights come on I pushed the button everything good told my buddy stew to get the fuzr out bammmmmm... Engine on we are golden... Thank You Sir baer383 for this saved me a lot.... :))))))))))

.c2 10-19-2012 11:03 PM
:ugh2:

SouthArk370Z 10-24-2012 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1738436)
If you remove the fuse box next to the battery put the car in accessory then pull the steering lock fuse.

Then just put everything back where it goes and that's it
I just finished removing my fuse. An easy job. Hardest part was getting the fuse out - I was beginning to think they had glued the damn thing.
Only tool I used was a small, flat-blade screwdriver for the plastic pop-rivets.

After popping the hood, I removed the battery box cover. Then I pulled the pop-rivets from the plastic piece that holds the battery box cover and removed it.
Removed the pop-rivet from the plastic piece that goes between the bottom of the windshield and the battery box and wiggled it out of the way. There is a piece of weatherstripping on top of the windshield-battery box piece that I did not have to remove - I just set the piece on top of the engine top cover.
The fuse block I wanted to remove is the one to the immediate right (sitting in the driver's seat) of the battery. There are two tab that hold the fuse block in its metal bracket - I pushed the tabs to the left (toward the fuse block) and pulled up on the fuse block. I reached down and guided the wiring harness past the bottom of the metal bracket (didn't want to take a chance on nicking/cutting any wires or putting too much stress on the connector).
Next I laid the fuse block on top of the battery (I checked to make sure there was nothing conductive on back of fuse block) and removed the cover. Looking at the diagram on the cover, I determined that the steering wheel lock fuse was the fourth from the bottom on the left column of fuses. After verifying that the steering wheel was unlocked, I pulled the fuse (would probably have been much easier with a fuse puller).
Then I put everything back together.
Only difficult part of the re-install was getting the windshield-battery piece back in place. There is a lip that has to go under the windshield that was a bit of a pain. Lifting up on the passenger windshield wiper will give you a little more room to maneuver when removing/installing it.

Hope that helps.

Baer383 10-24-2012 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 1978240)
I just finished removing my fuse. An easy job. Hardest part was getting the fuse out - I was beginning to think they had glued the damn thing.

Only tool I used was a small, flat-blade screwdriver for the plastic pop-rivets.

After popping the hood, I removed the battery box cover. Then I pulled the pop-rivets form the plastic piece that holds the battery box cover and removed it. Removed the pop-rivet from the plastic piece that goes between the bottom of the windshield and the battery box and wiggled it out of the way. There is a piece of weatherstripping on top of the windshield-battery box piece that I did not have to remove - I just set the piece on top of the engine top cover. The fuse block I wanted to remove is the one to the immediate right (sitting in the driver's seat) of the battery. There are two tab that hold the fuse block in it's metal bracket - I pushed the tabs to the left (toward the fuse block) and pulled up on the fuse block. I reached down and guided the wiring harness past the bottom of the metal bracket (didn't want to take a chance on nicking/cutting any wires or putting too much stress on the connector). Next I laid the fuse block on top of the battery (I checked to make sure there was nothing conductive on back of fuse block) and removed the cover. Looking at the diagram on the cover, I determined that the steering wheel lock fuse was the fourth from the bottom on the left column of fuses. After verifying that the steering wheel was unlocked, I pulled the fuse (would probably have been much easier with a fuse puller). Then I put everything back together. Only difficult part there was getting the windshield-battery piece back in place - there is a lip that has to go under the windshield that was a bit of a pain.

Hope that helps.
Glad everything worked out well for you ,Rep's are accepted for the research and development of this project.:tup:

.c2 10-26-2012 02:17 AM
Had a few delayed starts since pulling out the fuse, but only 2-3 seconds before the button responds. No big deal to me, but just thought I'd let people know since a few people seemed to have experienced the same thing.

asdfsammich 10-26-2012 09:35 AM
Thanks for the info .c2.

Do you, or maybe folks that have had this mod for a while, know if the delay is a harmless side effect? Meaning, it's not a symptom of another problem, or won't cause another problem?

I got my steering lock replaced last year but it looks like even the newer revisions break. Since being stranded and waiting for a new part sucks I'm thinking of pulling the fuse.

Also, props to the guy that kicked his steering lock into submission! I naturally should have tried that when mine broke!

Quote:
Originally Posted by .c2 (Post 1982149)
Had a few delayed starts since pulling out the fuse, but only 2-3 seconds before the button responds. No big deal to me, but just thought I'd let people know since a few people seemed to have experienced the same thing.



Tapatalk & such etc

SouthArk370Z 10-26-2012 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by asdfsammich (Post 1982590)
Thanks for the info .c2.
Do you, or maybe folks that have had this mod for a while, know if the delay is a harmless side effect? Meaning, it's not a symptom of another problem, or won't cause another problem?
I pulled the fuse in my '09 Touring yesterday (or was it the day before?) and do not have any delay (just double-checked), but maybe it takes a few starts for the system to learn that the SL has been disabled.

My guess as to what may be causing the delay: there is a signal from the SL relay contacts back to the computer that I think tells the computer that the SL motor has been energized. Since this signal is missing when the fuse is pulled, the computer waits a few seconds to see if it appears. Only problem I see with my theory is that not all owners are reporting the delay problem. I'm still investigating exactly what the "SL motor has been energized" input is, but don't have high hopes of finding out without better documentation (not likely as Nissan considers it proprietary).

SouthArk370Z 10-26-2012 10:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YamahaR6 (Post 1923708)
Here's some pictures and procedure to remove the steering fuse lock (sorry for the poor quality and follow at your own risk).
...
Great instructions and pics. Thanks for sharing. Repped.
When I removed my SL fuse, I didn't have to remove the weather-stripping. I just swung that piece around and set it on top of the engine cover.

JD_2003_svt 10-29-2012 03:00 PM
Just picked up my 09 Touring sport 6m Saturday and this was the first thing I did to the car. Thanks for this! She starts up just fine.

Baer383 10-29-2012 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JD_2003_svt (Post 1987826)
Just picked up my 09 Touring sport 6m Saturday and this was the first thing I did to the car. Thanks for this! She starts up just fine.
Your welcome:tiphat:

Reps are accepted form of payment :hello:

.c2 10-29-2012 03:59 PM
Mine started having delayed starts a few days after, first while it was fine. For the past few weeks it was delayed maybe 2-3 times at most? I'm not sure if it has affected anything else yet but as of now everything seems to be okay

Baer383 10-29-2012 04:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by .c2 (Post 1987956)
Mine started having delayed starts a few days after, first while it was fine. For the past few weeks it was delayed maybe 2-3 times at most? I'm not sure if it has affected anything else yet but as of now everything seems to be okay
It is delaying b/c the ecu is searching for all the inputs to determine that everything is good then it doesn't receive a input from the steering lock so it will recheck and determine that it is OK to start,why it does it once in a while I don't know.

SPOHN 10-29-2012 05:48 PM
Small dely better than a flatb bed tow

onzedge 10-29-2012 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 1988093)
Small dely better than a flatb bed tow
:iagree:

SurfDog 10-30-2012 02:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by .c2 (Post 1987956)
Mine started having delayed starts a few days after, first while it was fine. For the past few weeks it was delayed maybe 2-3 times at most? I'm not sure if it has affected anything else yet but as of now everything seems to be okay
I have hundreds of starts (in my early 09 sport) post mod now. Some delay some dont. They ALL start though :)

marty 10-30-2012 02:41 PM
Hello, just bought 2009 last month, with 15000 miles !!!!!!!!, at 1724 miles all went to ****, befor i made first payment car left me stranded at 7-11 fort laud. beach. did not buy ex wty. found this site - read all these pages. after $2200.00 repair bill car is running now. just like all the above - all was toast. talked it over with my mech. went with cutting the brown wire.. no issues at all now. we think this is the best thing to do. thankx for all the info........

SurfDog 10-30-2012 04:33 PM
Bummer. Well at least it won't happen again. (Depending on which replacement lock you received, you might not even have had to cut the wire.). Sorry you had to replace before you found us, but welcome!

xiven 11-01-2012 06:23 PM
not sure if this scenario was mentioned or not.

on mine the steering wheel is not locked. it won't go into ACC. won't do anything. i'm guessing the lock did not engage when i turned the car off. i'm going to try to turn the wheel more in the direction its going to see if the lock will finally engage. if that doesn't work then i'll pull the battery cable for 10 mins to reset the system. if that doesn't work should i turn this fuse solution?

xiven 11-01-2012 09:01 PM
ok so this solution did not work for me. i'm gonna leave it in the garage at work over the weekend as i have prior commitments out of town. luckily, i had planned to leave my car at home and just take a rental so at least for the weekend i have some wheels to drive around. hopefully, the dealership will give me something to drive when i send it to the shop.

HyLo66 11-02-2012 02:01 AM
Just did it and it wasn't hard at all. Will report back if I have any issues tomorrow! Thanks! Repped!

Baer383 11-02-2012 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by HyLo66 (Post 1995261)
Just did it and it wasn't hard at all. Will report back if I have any issues tomorrow! Thanks! Repped!
Thanks:tup:

It will work good better than being stuck.

kidkotic2001 11-06-2012 08:18 AM
Is this an issue with the 2012 Z. If it is I will be doing this right after work.

Baer383 11-06-2012 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by kidkotic2001 (Post 2002839)
Is this an issue with the 2012 Z. If it is I will be doing this right after work.
2012 don't have a steering lock,to check just turn your key on and if you hear a small motor sound then yes,my 2013 doesn't have one also you can just turn the wheel with the key off and if it doesn't lock then you don't have one.

rambunctious 11-10-2012 04:38 PM
Just did this! The hardest part was trying to get the fuse box back in place!

Baer383 11-10-2012 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by rambunctious (Post 2009599)
Just did this! The hardest part was trying to get the fuse box back in place!
Rep's are appreciated:tiphat:

SPOHN 11-10-2012 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2009608)
Rep's are appreciated:tiphat:
I'll put a rep in your .....

scgolfer7 11-11-2012 06:41 PM
Well my steering lock went out on my 09. I was 100 miles from home and needless to say I was angry enough to smack the relay and lo and behold it popped into "ACC" and without a hesitation I pulled that fuse out. Thanks for the help!

Baer383 11-11-2012 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by scgolfer7 (Post 2011006)
Well my steering lock went out on my 09. I was 100 miles from home and needless to say I was angry enough to smack the relay and lo and behold it popped into "ACC" and without a hesitation I pulled that fuse out. Thanks for the help!
I'm glad you didn't get stuck,sometimes a smack will do it.


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