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amrbasha 05-25-2012 02:16 PM

I drive hard...everyday
 
i usually dont wait for the oil temp to hit 180 before i start revving her up to 4-5 before shifting. I'm kind of a noob so was hoping to get some wisdom from anyone on here on proper driving. for example i dont know if what i said even has any negative affects on the car but i would like to find out if it does and what precautionary measures i can take insure my car's longevity thanks

phelan 05-25-2012 02:22 PM

reading the thread title put drake's stupid 'motto' song stuck in my head. :facepalm:

4-5 before shifting is nothing, but i usually wait 30 seconds to let the temp gauge on the left panel go up by one dot, then drive easy until the engine is 'warm'. then you can do whatever you want.

shadoquad 05-25-2012 03:40 PM

Erry day I'm Hustlin'

Trips 05-25-2012 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 1736992)
reading the thread title put drake's stupid 'motto' song stuck in my head. :facepalm:

4-5 before shifting is nothing, but i usually wait 30 seconds to let the temp gauge on the left panel go up by one dot, then drive easy until the engine is 'warm'. then you can do whatever you want.

:iagree:

ZMan8 05-25-2012 03:47 PM

Just from talking with people who have an oil pressure gauge wait until oil temps hits 180 which usually takes longer than for the car temps to go up.

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sfearl1 05-25-2012 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZMan8 (Post 1737133)
Just from talking with people who have an oil pressure gauge wait until oil temps hits 180 which usually takes longer than for the car temps to go up.

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:iagree: This is what I do.

kenchan 05-25-2012 03:51 PM

water temp is far different from oil temp reading on a cold engine, so as zman says, wait till 180F if you're going to go heavy footed.

water temp can reach 180F in like 3min time on a summer morning....and oil temp is sub 100F.

m4a1mustang 05-25-2012 04:06 PM

Spearfish25 has a nice video showing oil pressures on a cold startup. It should encourage you to wait for oil temps to rise to around 180* before getting on the car too hard.

UNKNOWN_370 05-25-2012 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by amrbasha (Post 1736976)
i usually dont wait for the oil temp to hit 180 before i start revving her up to 4-5 before shifting. I'm kind of a noob so was hoping to get some wisdom from anyone on here on proper driving. for example i dont know if what i said even has any negative affects on the car but i would like to find out if it does and what precautionary measures i can take insure my car's longevity thanks

:wtf2:

If you are telling us that you rev before 180??? That means you know it adds stress to the engine. Right? So why ask this. This thread is a waste of 1 minute of my life.

Snakes709 05-25-2012 04:15 PM

Pfftt...i started my car up in -49*C weather and started beating the **** out of the car right away. Hit the rev limit in every gear, even in reverse














haha, jk.

tjlazer 05-25-2012 04:42 PM

definately wait until the engine warms up a bit before you gun it. That cannot be good for the longevity of the engine. (or for the next owner lol) Damn....

This is the reason why I am always hesitant to buy a used car... unless I buy it from a women or senior citizen. ;)

ZMan8 05-25-2012 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1737161)
Spearfish25 has a nice video showing oil pressures on a cold startup. It should encourage you to wait for oil temps to rise to around 180* before getting on the car too hard.

:iagree: i talked to him a few weekends ago about it and he said definitely dont push the car before about 180 (and that's with an oil cooler*)


* For anybody unfamiliar, when you install an oil cooler the temperature reading is after the oil passes through the cooler but before it goes in the engine. This means the actual temperature of the oil in the engine is probably closer to 190/200. So for us without oil coolers I would wait maybe a little more than 180.

poorazn 05-25-2012 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 1737257)
This is the reason why I am always hesitant to buy a used car... unless I buy it from a women or senior citizen. ;)

Wha?

shadoquad 05-25-2012 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by poorazn (Post 1737472)
Wha?

I'm pretty sure that he means that when you buy a used car, the previous driver may have driven it very, very hard. Women and the elderly, in general, do not thrash their cars as badly as a young man will.

Super Tanooki 05-25-2012 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZMan8 (Post 1737458)
:iagree: i talked to him a few weekends ago about it and he said definitely dont push the car before about 180 (and that's with an oil cooler*)


* For anybody unfamiliar, when you install an oil cooler the temperature reading is after the oil passes through the cooler but before it goes in the engine. This means the actual temperature of the oil in the engine is probably closer to 190/200. So for us without oil coolers I would wait maybe a little more than 180.

Funny you say that, because before I got my oil cooler I used to wait until 180 degrees before getting 'spirited'. But since I got the oil cooler (stillen, 24-row) my temps (on a normal, not-too-hot day) seem to settle around 160-170. Never reaching 180 - especially on the freeway. So now I consider 160 'go time'.

amrbasha 05-26-2012 03:04 AM

you guys have made me realize that i am an idiot so im gonna go ahead and sell the z tomorrow and get a passat or something fml btw im 25 not like 16 or something so yeah im a weak *** 25 year old

shadoquad 05-26-2012 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amrbasha (Post 1738150)
you guys have made me realize that i am an idiot so im gonna go ahead and sell the z tomorrow and get a passat or something fml btw im 25 not like 16 or something so yeah im a weak *** 25 year old

don't let them bother you.

chrischhorn 05-26-2012 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amrbasha (Post 1738150)
you guys have made me realize that i am an idiot so im gonna go ahead and sell the z tomorrow and get a passat or something fml btw im 25 not like 16 or something so yeah im a weak *** 25 year old

I'm 23, i thought the Z was gonna help me get over my addiction but i keep goin back.........NEED MOAR VTECH!!!!:stirthepot:

ZMan8 05-26-2012 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Tanooki (Post 1737637)
Funny you say that, because before I got my oil cooler I used to wait until 180 degrees before getting 'spirited'. But since I got the oil cooler (stillen, 24-row) my temps (on a normal, not-too-hot day) seem to settle around 160-170. Never reaching 180 - especially on the freeway. So now I consider 160 'go time'.

to add productive things to this thread.

Spearfish, WITH an oil cooler saw oil pressure over 100 psi before his oil temps reached 180 on the gauge. The oil temps in the engine at that time are about 190/200.

Trips 05-26-2012 10:44 AM

I would suggest if folks have nothing positive to add to move on!!

NOW STAY ON TOPIC!! and leave the nonsense for the Lounge!!

jazz 05-26-2012 01:51 PM

does synthetic oil run hotter??

LunaZ 05-26-2012 01:52 PM

I'm surprised this thread has lasted this long! Seems my ibtl was premature!

Super Tanooki 05-27-2012 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZMan8 (Post 1738401)
to add productive things to this thread.

Spearfish, WITH an oil cooler saw oil pressure over 100 psi before his oil temps reached 180 on the gauge. The oil temps in the engine at that time are about 190/200.

Yeah, I had a read around after seeing this thread and found the below post.

http://www.the370z.com/1457924-post17.html

VERY useful to know - and I suspected as much too... basically, if you have an oil cooler the oil temp sensor is directly AFTER the cooler core, so the temp readings are about 20-or-so below actual in-engine oil temps. And that makes sense because I used to feel a big drop in power at about 225* before the OC, now I feel it at around 205. It was baffling me for the longest time but that MUST be why - the engine is basically 20* hotter than the gauge says.

Luckily most of the time, thanks to the OC, I rarely reach those temps anymore. And keeping the AC on actually helps keep engine temps down a bit too. But it's summer and I live in Vegas so it's always going to be an issue.


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