Buyer asking for refund on Paypal

seymore4 · 05-22-2012, 10:04 AM

Lmao the buyer asked you a question to clarify something he didnt understand on a $2000+ sale and you ignored him..

absolutely no simpathy here bro

Evofusion · 05-22-2012, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by amusez34

Plus, I got like SUNKIST boxes and mats in the picture, he didnt expect me to ship those too right?

Yeah bro, because the sunkist is totally part of the wheels like the center caps are

should have just put in the title "selling wheels only, no center caps will be included"

easy....

Mt Tam I am · 05-22-2012, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by azn370z

There's probably nothing you can do now but accept your wheels back. I think a lack of quick communication would of prevented all of this.

I think most people think center caps come with aftermarket wheels. But since you took pictures with it on, you can't blame the buyer.

If you can, you should see if the buyer will accept the wheels if you ship him the center caps free.

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Originally Posted by cheshirecat

Send him the center caps and call it a day.

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Originally Posted by LSUTurboTiger

you posted pictures with the center caps, then removed them without a word to the buyer, then ignored him when he asked about the center caps?

I can't imagine why he'd be unhappy...

I saw the pics and assumed the caps were included with the wheels too.

Comparing the center caps with the descriptive paper also in the picture, is disingenuous.

Nick911sc · 05-22-2012, 10:27 AM

I'm surprised you'd post a thread on a public forum stating how you decided not to send center caps that you had pictured in a sale thread but never stated you weren't selling. Then went on to ignore your buyers inquiries (and admit to it openly) about the center caps and question why there's a dispute through paypal... Send the buyer the caps It'll be much cheaper for you to buy new caps then it will be to lose your money through a dispute on paypal. This is the reason why it's difficult to trust sellers on a forum....

Bucketlist2012 · 05-22-2012, 10:31 AM

The Law states that you can not assume what is in someone's mind...

" he knew " does not fly in the legal world if you showed him pictures of the wheels with caps on, and you never stated in writing that they came "without the caps".

So legally, you will be out of gas....

And as far as someone buying custom wheels ? They should come with the center caps.. They are custom wheels.. And no one buys wheels without the center caps..That , although not part of the legal issue, is strange at best.. Very strange and the guy is right..Should he have given you the opportunity to send the caps ? Yes , maybe, but from your post, You may have said "no way", and then you would still be where you are now...

But if you posted the picture with the caps, and you don't have a paper trail stating BEFORE the sale and DATED , legally , you are out of gas..

Just the way the law works..

Paypal ? I have no idea.. But the law is the law.

Send him the caps, They cannot be worth it.

elmz · 05-22-2012, 10:32 AM

OP, the dude paid you 2k and you ignored a question from him...what did you think was going to happen? His actions are completely justifiable. Also, may I ask why you wouldn't include the center caps?

bdavis89 · 05-22-2012, 10:42 AM

OP

Seriously,

with pretty much everyone else's posts. You really screwed the pooch on this one.

Trips · 05-22-2012, 10:56 AM

I'm siding with most here and would see it as a lesson unfortunately

There's no reason to be piling on the Op anymore.

Again lesson learned let's move on.

05-22-2012, 10:31 AM	#20 (permalink)
Bucketlist2012 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,424 Drives: 370Z Touring/Sport Rep Power: 16	The Law states that you can not assume what is in someone's mind... " he knew " does not fly in the legal world if you showed him pictures of the wheels with caps on, and you never stated in writing that they came "without the caps". So legally, you will be out of gas.... And as far as someone buying custom wheels ? They should come with the center caps.. They are custom wheels.. And no one buys wheels without the center caps..That , although not part of the legal issue, is strange at best.. Very strange and the guy is right..Should he have given you the opportunity to send the caps ? Yes , maybe, but from your post, You may have said "no way", and then you would still be where you are now... But if you posted the picture with the caps, and you don't have a paper trail stating BEFORE the sale and DATED , legally , you are out of gas.. Just the way the law works.. Paypal ? I have no idea.. But the law is the law. Send him the caps, They cannot be worth it. __________________ 2009 Sport/Touring 370Z 1971 Z/28 with coil overs, rushforth's, willwoods, Hotchkis. 4 speed GMC Sierra1500 Last edited by Bucketlist2012; 05-22-2012 at 10:34 AM.

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Trips Administrator Join Date: May 2009 Location: Disneyland, Ca Posts: 8,732 Drives: 🔰 Rep Power: 10	I'm siding with most here and would see it as a lesson unfortunately There's no reason to be piling on the Op anymore. Again lesson learned let's move on. __________________

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seymore4 Track Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: West coast Age: 41 Posts: 560 Drives: 2010 nismo Rep Power: 6727	Lmao the buyer asked you a question to clarify something he didnt understand on a $2000+ sale and you ignored him.. absolutely no simpathy here bro

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Nick911sc A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,698 Drives: 2010 Nissan GT-R Rep Power: 20	I'm surprised you'd post a thread on a public forum stating how you decided not to send center caps that you had pictured in a sale thread but never stated you weren't selling. Then went on to ignore your buyers inquiries (and admit to it openly) about the center caps and question why there's a dispute through paypal... Send the buyer the caps It'll be much cheaper for you to buy new caps then it will be to lose your money through a dispute on paypal. This is the reason why it's difficult to trust sellers on a forum....

05-22-2012, 10:32 AM	#21 (permalink)
elmz Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 674 Drives: 2014 Porsche Boxster Rep Power: 17	OP, the dude paid you 2k and you ignored a question from him...what did you think was going to happen? His actions are completely justifiable. Also, may I ask why you wouldn't include the center caps?