Seriously?

MacLean · 05-07-2012, 10:15 PM

The Z is a nice car. If you wanted something smoother & quieter, then go with the G37. The Z is a sports car & isn't going to ride like a Cadillac, or be as quite as a Mercedes Benz while driving. When you buy the Z you are getting what you paid for. Like most of us were not too crazy about the exhaust that came on the car, so we upgrade to a better exhaust system. If you want more hp, then go out & buy the parts to help you reach your goal. It is like watching a movie......some people will like it & others will not. There is no such thing as something being 110% perfect b/c there is always going to be something that should have been better, or done differently. At the end of the day if you do not like something about the car, then change it (exhaust, HU, intake & etc).

buddyZ · 05-07-2012, 10:32 PM

leasing a 2012 Z for 320 a month, no sport package but what a steal!! im thankful but there is no doubt that the gas mileage is absolutely terrible in my opinion, crappy speakers and drivers side view is not to much of a biggie. Overall coming from a supercharged s2000 and E55 amg this car is EPIC.

Vbp6US · 05-07-2012, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by buddyZ

leasing a 2012 Z for 320 a month, no sport package but what a steal!! im thankful but there is no doubt that the gas mileage is absolutely terrible in my opinion, crappy speakers and drivers side view is not to much of a biggie. Overall coming from a supercharged s2000 and E55 amg this car is EPIC.

Baller.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-07-2012, 11:43 PM

OP is right though about Z owners who hate there cars. I honestly think its a way to self justify there next purchase and not looking like the typical suburban "gotta have it before my neighbor does" mentality", in some cases. NOT all... but, its like all of a sudden SOME guys just give me that vibe. One day the Z is awesome. The next they have to go to the dealer for an issue and the Z is worthless.

Other sports cars see the dealer too.

The Z has given me nothing but joy. I bought an oil cooler (not installed yet) but RP is doing a great job @ staying cool thus far. I don't get worried when my car sees 240. When I first bought the. Car my Z would jump to 260 degrees in 15 minutes on normal roads. Came to find out Z's run hot during break in. Doing the correct oil changes from 0-5000 with premium oil really slows that process down as the engine lubricates. 6300miles and in 8 months of owning the Z. I haven't seen high temps in 6 months. We just started going into the 90's. I'm still staying around 230 or lower.

Brake cooling will be addressed. Better pads, lines and rotors have been done. I'm considering selling my stop tech rotors for ebc dimple-drilled and slotted??? My S tune pads work like magic. Repeat stops feel sure and fade free. I won't track this car till every preventative mod is completely done and I have it dropped, spaced and swayed.

Love your Z and it will love you back. Fuel starvation. I have no comment because I never been through it even though I drive like I stole from the president sometimes. But I feel for that situation. That is one flaw that is hard to address as just an owner. But if you love your Z? USE THE FORUM FOR WHAT ITS HERE FOR. Don't just complain here. Gather guys with the same issue's info. Write a petition for inspection and TSB. Add the names and gather forum support. Rants and cries get these issues nowhere.

864Zbeast · 05-07-2012, 11:43 PM

Well said OP

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-07-2012, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by buddyZ

leasing a 2012 Z for 320 a month, no sport package but what a steal!! im thankful but there is no doubt that the gas mileage is absolutely terrible in my opinion, crappy speakers and drivers side view is not to much of a biggie. Overall coming from a supercharged s2000 and E55 amg this car is EPIC.

Hahahaa.... the radio is my biggest pet peeve. I hate it. I think for Z money, they could have done better. But aftermaket stereos rock, so its all good

cossie1600 · 05-07-2012, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

this is the problem every time the fuel starve issue comes up. Most people here have apparently never been in a car driven anywhere near the limit.

probably has the vdc on...

11Thumper · 05-08-2012, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Hahahaa.... the radio is my biggest pet peeve. I hate it. I think for Z money, they could have done better. But aftermaket stereos rock, so its all good

I rented a Versa it had the exact same radio. Mine is getting swapped within a couple weeks

Z_ealot · 05-08-2012, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

OP is right though about Z owners who hate there cars. I honestly think its a way to self justify there next purchase and not looking like the typical suburban "gotta have it before my neighbor does" mentality", in some cases. NOT all... but, its like all of a sudden SOME guys just give me that vibe. One day the Z is awesome. The next they have to go to the dealer for an issue and the Z is worthless.

Other sports cars see the dealer too.

The Z has given me nothing but joy. I bought an oil cooler (not installed yet) but RP is doing a great job @ staying cool thus far. I don't get worried when my car sees 240. When I first bought the. Car my Z would jump to 260 degrees in 15 minutes on normal roads. Came to find out Z's run hot during break in. Doing the correct oil changes from 0-5000 with premium oil really slows that process down as the engine lubricates. 6300miles and in 8 months of owning the Z. I haven't seen high temps in 6 months. We just started going into the 90's. I'm still staying around 230 or lower.

Brake cooling will be addressed. Better pads, lines and rotors have been done. I'm considering selling my stop tech rotors for ebc dimple-drilled and slotted??? My S tune pads work like magic. Repeat stops feel sure and fade free. I won't track this car till every preventative mod is completely done and I have it dropped, spaced and swayed.

Love your Z and it will love you back. Fuel starvation. I have no comment because I never been through it even though I drive like I stole from the president sometimes. But I feel for that situation. That is one flaw that is hard to address as just an owner. But if you love your Z? USE THE FORUM FOR WHAT ITS HERE FOR. Don't just complain here. Gather guys with the same issue's info. Write a petition for inspection and TSB. Add the names and gather forum support. Rants and cries get these issues nowhere.

definitely gotta agree with you on all points, i think what the OP is hinting to is instead of moaning and groaning about it all the freakin time on these boards as has been done many times by certain people why not actually be proactive like UNKNOWN says and get together a petition from everyone that has the same issue. i'm with OP as far as that goes, heck i would definitely sign a petition if anyone ever got one together but going on and on with the complaints will only eventually do one thing: annoy the heck out of people, and with that being said most people who would rather not hear it on a constant basis WILL start ignoring you which is counter active to your cause.

MacLean · 05-08-2012, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 11Thumper

I rented a Versa it had the exact same radio. Mine is getting swapped within a couple weeks

+1.......

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-08-2012, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by modme

The purpose of a discussion forum is to point out and address problems. It serves as a medium for people exchange ideas to improve the car. What good would it do if you have a bunch of guys posting how perfect their cars are?

What purpose does it serve to bash the car if you have an issue??? It goes both ways. But forums almost always lack objectivity.

MyZ4U2C · 05-08-2012, 01:47 AM

I was getting to the point of questioning if I should buy a Z after seeing so many complaints about this and that. Glad I went forward with the purchase afterall... haven't experienced any issues that have been brought up here...great post OP

LakeShow · 05-08-2012, 03:50 AM

Well said OP.

Zoren 370 · 05-08-2012, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jazz-Z

I have been lurking here for quite a while, but only recently decided to join for lots of reasons. I promised myself I wouldn't do this, but I can't help it. There is a disproportionate level of wretching and moaning on this forum. You would think most of you guys hate your cars. It's too loud! Guess what sports cars are LOUD. It doesn't make the right kind of noise! Gimme a break. It sounds mechanical like an engine should, and when I downshift and accelerate, my Z sounds downright angry. I love it!.

The brakes aren't any good. Really, I feel like I can rip a hole in time with my brakes. So what if some bozo from MotorTrend caused the brakes to fail by doing repeated 100-0 stops. I watched Jeremy on Top Gear set the ceramic brakes of an exotic sports car on fire the other day. Any brakes can be made to fail if one pushes them beyond their limits.

The car over heats and needs an oil cooler. I live in the humid, hot East Coast and I have never had my car go into limp mode. BTW guys, your car is supposed to run between 180 and 220 degrees even 230 or 240 is fine. My car was broken in according to factory guidelines and it has never burned oil.

I have never had fuel starve. I don't drive slow, and I have the speeding tickets to prove it ( That's a topic for another thread) but I don't drive like an anal cavity either.

My car isn't as fast as this car, or as fast as that car. When the Z came out it beat the Porsche Cayman S around Willow springs in a direct head to head comparison by Road and Track (Google it) So Porsche came out with the Cayman R in order to put down a faster time than the Z, but they cut weight in that car by taking out unnecesary items like door handles and AC, and then charge extra for no door handles.

The fact is the Z is loaded with edgy technology and engineering. How about appreciating some of what you got for a very reasonable price, and stop nitpicking the car to death.

Okay I know this is the internet, and this post isn't going to do a blankety blank thing to to change much of anything, but I had to get this off my chest.

I could not agree any less!

Zoren 370 · 05-08-2012, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Hahahaa.... the radio is my biggest pet peeve. I hate it. I think for Z money, they could have done better. But aftermaket stereos rock, so its all good

Hahaha...who needs a radio anyway??? Hearing the exhaust notes in my Z is an orchestra to me. Who cares about a radio its a sports car for crying out loud. But that is just me, OK No hard feelings.

BTW I only have the OEM exhaust for now but not for long my upgraded exhaust is on the way...
Then I'll have a CONCERT!

05-07-2012, 11:43 PM	#20 (permalink)
864Zbeast Track Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Walhalla/Clemson, SC Posts: 874 Drives: 09 BS 370z Rep Power: 15	Well said OP __________________ Avant Garde M310 gloss black/ Nitto Invo/ black fangs and rear diffuser/ gloss black roof/ tinted tail lights/ GT-R start button

05-08-2012, 03:50 AM	#28 (permalink)
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05-07-2012, 10:15 PM	#16 (permalink)
MacLean A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 1,589 Drives: '12 GM Nismo # 0445 Rep Power: 16	The Z is a nice car. If you wanted something smoother & quieter, then go with the G37. The Z is a sports car & isn't going to ride like a Cadillac, or be as quite as a Mercedes Benz while driving. When you buy the Z you are getting what you paid for. Like most of us were not too crazy about the exhaust that came on the car, so we upgrade to a better exhaust system. If you want more hp, then go out & buy the parts to help you reach your goal. It is like watching a movie......some people will like it & others will not. There is no such thing as something being 110% perfect b/c there is always going to be something that should have been better, or done differently. At the end of the day if you do not like something about the car, then change it (exhaust, HU, intake & etc).

05-07-2012, 10:32 PM	#17 (permalink)
buddyZ Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: socal Posts: 118 Drives: 2012 Base6mt Rep Power: 0	leasing a 2012 Z for 320 a month, no sport package but what a steal!! im thankful but there is no doubt that the gas mileage is absolutely terrible in my opinion, crappy speakers and drivers side view is not to much of a biggie. Overall coming from a supercharged s2000 and E55 amg this car is EPIC.

05-07-2012, 11:43 PM	#19 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	OP is right though about Z owners who hate there cars. I honestly think its a way to self justify there next purchase and not looking like the typical suburban "gotta have it before my neighbor does" mentality", in some cases. NOT all... but, its like all of a sudden SOME guys just give me that vibe. One day the Z is awesome. The next they have to go to the dealer for an issue and the Z is worthless. Other sports cars see the dealer too. The Z has given me nothing but joy. I bought an oil cooler (not installed yet) but RP is doing a great job @ staying cool thus far. I don't get worried when my car sees 240. When I first bought the. Car my Z would jump to 260 degrees in 15 minutes on normal roads. Came to find out Z's run hot during break in. Doing the correct oil changes from 0-5000 with premium oil really slows that process down as the engine lubricates. 6300miles and in 8 months of owning the Z. I haven't seen high temps in 6 months. We just started going into the 90's. I'm still staying around 230 or lower. Brake cooling will be addressed. Better pads, lines and rotors have been done. I'm considering selling my stop tech rotors for ebc dimple-drilled and slotted??? My S tune pads work like magic. Repeat stops feel sure and fade free. I won't track this car till every preventative mod is completely done and I have it dropped, spaced and swayed. Love your Z and it will love you back. Fuel starvation. I have no comment because I never been through it even though I drive like I stole from the president sometimes. But I feel for that situation. That is one flaw that is hard to address as just an owner. But if you love your Z? USE THE FORUM FOR WHAT ITS HERE FOR. Don't just complain here. Gather guys with the same issue's info. Write a petition for inspection and TSB. Add the names and gather forum support. Rants and cries get these issues nowhere.

05-08-2012, 01:47 AM	#27 (permalink)
MyZ4U2C Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 448 Drives: 40th Z #51, 15 FozXT Rep Power: 554	I was getting to the point of questioning if I should buy a Z after seeing so many complaints about this and that. Glad I went forward with the purchase afterall... haven't experienced any issues that have been brought up here...great post OP