state police behind me and got towed, yay love fuel starve!

SPOHN · 05-05-2012, 03:52 PM

That sucks. Sorry cossie. Rep for yea.

IMWEZL · 05-05-2012, 03:56 PM

Yeah you have to hit a right turn really hard. Its happened twice to me. On both times I was on the very limit of Corning traction and acceleration. I think I had less than 1/2 a tank n both cases as well.

Compdoc777 · 05-05-2012, 04:00 PM

I keep mine on Economy all the time never had the problem yet. I wonder if they fixed it for 2011?

If it happens I am going to be pissed though and report it.

PapoZalsa · 05-05-2012, 04:51 PM

You can also have a faulty Fuel Sending Unit and could be a reason for not giving you the correct reading. I just got mine replaced 2 weeks ago.

cossie1600 · 05-05-2012, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

Fuel starvation is a weird feeling. last month at the track I was low on gas (stupidly knowing this was an issue), about a quarter tank, and a sweeping right turn. I thought I'd shifted into the wrong gear, several seconds later it made a slight popping sound ( or some kind of sound), and all was well again. It happened again on the next lap and then I slowed down on all right handers.

I would think a small reservoir tank in between gas tank and combustion chamber would solve this inexpensively. I am not a mechanic or engineer so what do I know.

Z has a returnless system, very hard to do

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot

oddly enough on my 2011 i have never had this issue with fuel starvation even when running on 1/4 tank and making long sweeping right hand turns on an onramp going about 50-60....makes me wonder if nissan secretly addressed this issue in the 2011 and up, guess i'll have to wait for some more 2011 and up owners to chime in.

See below

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Originally Posted by my2004Z

I dunno, I have an '09 and have regularly run the tank down below the 1/4 tank mark and have never had a problem even with spirited driving on curvey roads with and without elevation changes. I wonder if there is a problem or defect with a batch of tanks versus the overall design of the gas tank. Someone who has had the problem definitely needs to cut their tank in half and do a video for the rest of us. Any takers?

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgmg21

Sorry to hear the bad news. Kind of sucks that it took 1.5hrs out of your life, but at least things are back to normal. Oh congrats on your wife being pregnant.

Ty

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Originally Posted by mhcoss

I have run my 2012 down to the dummy warnings telling me to fuel up and havent had this happen to me. I wasn't even aware this was a problem.. I am going to fuel up more often now

Iit is a fuel pickup issue. The cup that is used to hold fuel is simply too small. It is part of the fuel pump assembley. The whole part should be redesigned. As far as I know, all fuel pump assembly is the same from 09 to 12.

Btw, the problem usually happens when you come out of the corner, not entering the corner since only a small amount of fuel is being held in the cup. If you gun it and use up the fuel inside it, you are sol. You either get a hick up or you have to get towed.

Z has a returnless system, its going to take more work to install another pump. My friend who designed my trailer hitch can do it, but I am hesitant about blowing another 1k in the car.

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Originally Posted by jazz-Z

If I had a car that had this issue I would be really peeved, and taking legal action. I almost hesitate to say that I have an '09, and haven't had this problem. I wonder if the guys on the forum that have the fuel starve problem could compare notes on their builds to see if there was a defective lot of fuel pumps that are causing this issue.

Frankly I think that a lot of the other complaints I hear about the Z on this forum is just a bunch of BS grousing about nothing more than individual idiosyncratic irritations, or misinformed expectaion. The fuel starve issue, however is serious and potentially life threatening.

I wasn't driving the Prius, can't do 170......

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Originally Posted by kenchan

cossie -were you going 170mph and told officer you can go even faster?

cossie1600 · 05-05-2012, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

You can also have a faulty Fuel Sending Unit and could be a reason for not giving you the correct reading. I just got mine replaced 2 weeks ago.

I bitched about it a year or two ago, people think I am on crack. They are more concerned about the stupid oil temp

shadoquad · 05-05-2012, 04:59 PM

Sux bro. Sry to hear.

kenchan · 05-05-2012, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

I wasn't driving the Prius, can't do 170......

gl on the fix.

cossie1600 · 05-05-2012, 05:15 PM

Credit to the people who took the time to document the pump. You can see a difference between the 350 and the 370 pump.

The way the cup is design, it simply doesn't hold enough gas and it is very hard to refill

This is how you fix it cheaply

onzedge · 05-05-2012, 05:38 PM

NYBladeZ · 05-05-2012, 06:46 PM

hmmm, first time I've heard of this issue occur on the street its a well known issue for track drivers. Of course up to this point, having it be a "track" issue doesn't help giving Nissan a reason to fix this. If you had enough fuel I think you would have fired up with a jump. This happen to me once and even after refueling it didn't crank over, a quick jump from the boost box and it was good to go.

Bucketlist2012 · 05-05-2012, 07:39 PM

When someone gets rear ended due to fuel starvation, Nissan will get sued and they deserve to be sued...They know about the problem and they just don't care..

I am glad you are ok and nothing happened, but it will someday...

jazz-Z · 05-05-2012, 08:13 PM

I agree with the poster that said, if fuel starve is a track only issue the chances of getting anything done about it are slim and none. I also agree that if someone gets rear ended as a result of this issue it could mean serious liability issues for Nissan. How many people here have had fuel starve occur on the street and WEREN'T speeding?

Bucketlist2012 · 05-05-2012, 08:19 PM

If enough people FLOOD Nissan with complaints, the paper trail will be easy for any Lawyer to sue for millions if someone is hurt getting rear ended..

They can claim fuel starvation, and Nissan should be liable....You should not have to keep your gas tank full on a modern car...Justifying it, is just trying to justify buying the car..

I never had any issues with my rock solid 350Z..If i have problems with the 370Z, you can bet i will take the loss and move on to another Car,and not a Nissan..

I am going to let my 370Z get low on gas and see if it starves...Then I will document a formal complaint with Nissan if it happens...Absolutely unacceptable...

sonic370 · 05-05-2012, 09:04 PM

sorry to hear about your fuel issue....

i once ran my 09 down to no fuel dots showing,, i know stupid and the yellow
warning light flashed on but i didn't have any problems. except how fast i could find a gas station..........................

05-05-2012, 03:52 PM	#16 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 46 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	That sucks. Sorry cossie. Rep for yea. __________________

05-05-2012, 04:51 PM	#19 (permalink)
PapoZalsa A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Not in Sunny Florida Posts: 6,358 Drives: 16 Nismo w/Tech Pack Rep Power: 4500	You can also have a faulty Fuel Sending Unit and could be a reason for not giving you the correct reading. I just got mine replaced 2 weeks ago. __________________ 2009 370Z MB Base w/Sport Package 6MT Modshack's Custom Air Intakes /3M Clear Bra/ Illuminated Kick Plates / F. I CBE w/12" resonators / EVO-R Front Lip / Rear Hatch Wing / Tein S-Tech Springs /Ilegal Tint in the Rep. of VA/4x20mm Z1 Spacers/ Vinyl Roof/Liquid Carbon Designs

05-05-2012, 05:38 PM	#25 (permalink)
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05-05-2012, 06:46 PM	#26 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 20	hmmm, first time I've heard of this issue occur on the street its a well known issue for track drivers. Of course up to this point, having it be a "track" issue doesn't help giving Nissan a reason to fix this. If you had enough fuel I think you would have fired up with a jump. This happen to me once and even after refueling it didn't crank over, a quick jump from the boost box and it was good to go. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

05-05-2012, 07:39 PM	#27 (permalink)
Bucketlist2012 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,424 Drives: 370Z Touring/Sport Rep Power: 16	When someone gets rear ended due to fuel starvation, Nissan will get sued and they deserve to be sued...They know about the problem and they just don't care.. I am glad you are ok and nothing happened, but it will someday... __________________ 2009 Sport/Touring 370Z 1971 Z/28 with coil overs, rushforth's, willwoods, Hotchkis. 4 speed GMC Sierra1500

05-05-2012, 03:56 PM	#17 (permalink)
IMWEZL Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: HNL Posts: 603 Drives: 370Z/MKVII GTI Rep Power: 17	Yeah you have to hit a right turn really hard. Its happened twice to me. On both times I was on the very limit of Corning traction and acceleration. I think I had less than 1/2 a tank n both cases as well.

05-05-2012, 04:00 PM	#18 (permalink)
Compdoc777 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Cypress Posts: 277 Drives: 2011 Nismo #4 MB Rep Power: 14	I keep mine on Economy all the time never had the problem yet. I wonder if they fixed it for 2011? If it happens I am going to be pissed though and report it.

05-05-2012, 04:59 PM	#22 (permalink)
shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3886	Sux bro. Sry to hear.

05-05-2012, 05:15 PM	#24 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	Credit to the people who took the time to document the pump. You can see a difference between the 350 and the 370 pump. The way the cup is design, it simply doesn't hold enough gas and it is very hard to refill This is how you fix it cheaply

05-05-2012, 08:13 PM	#28 (permalink)
jazz-Z Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Posts: 13 Drives: 09 370Z CY 7AT Rep Power: 13	Tally I agree with the poster that said, if fuel starve is a track only issue the chances of getting anything done about it are slim and none. I also agree that if someone gets rear ended as a result of this issue it could mean serious liability issues for Nissan. How many people here have had fuel starve occur on the street and WEREN'T speeding?

05-05-2012, 08:19 PM	#29 (permalink)
Bucketlist2012 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,424 Drives: 370Z Touring/Sport Rep Power: 16	If enough people FLOOD Nissan with complaints, the paper trail will be easy for any Lawyer to sue for millions if someone is hurt getting rear ended.. They can claim fuel starvation, and Nissan should be liable....You should not have to keep your gas tank full on a modern car...Justifying it, is just trying to justify buying the car.. I never had any issues with my rock solid 350Z..If i have problems with the 370Z, you can bet i will take the loss and move on to another Car,and not a Nissan.. I am going to let my 370Z get low on gas and see if it starves...Then I will document a formal complaint with Nissan if it happens...Absolutely unacceptable... __________________ 2009 Sport/Touring 370Z 1971 Z/28 with coil overs, rushforth's, willwoods, Hotchkis. 4 speed GMC Sierra1500 Last edited by Bucketlist2012; 05-05-2012 at 08:22 PM.

05-05-2012, 09:04 PM	#30 (permalink)
sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 18	sorry to hear about your fuel issue.... i once ran my 09 down to no fuel dots showing,, i know stupid and the yellow warning light flashed on but i didn't have any problems. except how fast i could find a gas station..........................

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