Spoiler & Scoop

troubadour · 04-28-2012, 11:42 PM

But there's no spoiler on the rear deck of the "straight" coupe, is there? Why should it make any difference whether one has a Sports or Touring package? Same engine, same basic car. ???

bdavis89 · 04-29-2012, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulZ370

DO NOT take those spoilers off for your safety (and those driving around you) at high speed.

Nissan sells the base model without them, so it hardly has anything to do with safety. It just provides for some extra performance at higher speeds. OP you'd be fine without them, although I think the car looks like garbage without the spoiler, to each his own.

theboydiddy · 04-29-2012, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bdavis89

Nissan sells the base model without them, so it hardly has anything to do with safety. It just provides for some extra performance at higher speeds. OP you'd be fine without them, although I think the car looks like garbage without the spoiler, to each his own.

MacLean · 04-29-2012, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bdavis89

Nissan sells the base model without them, so it hardly has anything to do with safety. It just provides for some extra performance at higher speeds. OP you'd be fine without them, although I think the car looks like garbage without the spoiler, to each his own.

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Originally Posted by theboydiddy

+2.........

Bagherra · 04-29-2012, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MattP725

Seriously doubt you are getting much performance/handling from either at any speed but that is just my opinion...

troubadour · 04-29-2012, 08:29 AM

So I think I'll probably have them removed. My plan was to keep them so that they could be reinstalled when I sell the car, as I expect most prospective owners would want them.

canes7 · 04-29-2012, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

or maybe they just inflated the tires to the correct psi and you're feeling that...(?)

I'm still waiting for my Obama sponsored tire guage and tune-up kit. They said they'd deliver after the 2008 elections but so far there has been no delivery on their promises, not even a tracking number. So I have no way of verifying, or denying, this assertion.

MacLean · 04-29-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by canes7

I'm still waiting for my Obama sponsored tire guage and tune-up kit. They said they'd deliver after the 2008 elections but so far there has been no delivery on their promises, not even a tracking number. So I have no way of verifying, or denying, this assertion.

Well the whole problem is Obama. You might not get it.

gbrettin · 04-29-2012, 05:19 PM

If you have the sport package then just leave it on. It's not really hurting anything. If you can not stand the look of the rear spoiler then you will need tot take your car to a body shop so they can fill in the holes that will be left behind ( as mentioned earlier).

MacLean · 04-29-2012, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin

If you have the sport package then just leave it on. It's not really hurting anything. If you can not stand the look of the rear spoiler then you will need tot take your car to a body shop so they can fill in the holes that will be left behind ( as mentioned earlier).

Maybe he didn't read that part. I would leave it as is.

troubadour · 04-29-2012, 07:14 PM

I read it. I'll pay the body shop to fill/paint.

Japanjay · 05-01-2012, 03:37 PM

I have the sport package, so I cant speak for any differences in feel over the nismo or non-sport, but I do know at over 140mph mine starts to float. At 150mph it is to the point were your constantly bringing it back straight. Very hair raising to say the least. I wouldnt even attempt that in a non-sport model and wont be back into those numbers for any extended periods like before without some major aero work on the front and rear.

Japanjay · 05-01-2012, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bdavis89

Nissan sells the base model without them, so it hardly has anything to do with safety. It just provides for some extra performance at higher speeds. OP you'd be fine without them, although I think the car looks like garbage without the spoiler, to each his own.

Have to agree with the garbage look without it. X3

Cmike2780 · 05-01-2012, 03:54 PM

Leave it on, unless you plane on replacing it with a different one. The Z (coupe) looks naked without it. Also, if you lower your car, that too has an effect on the aerodynamics. The 'lift' effect at high speeds is very real and most cars are designed with zero lift in mind. Race cars are designed with downforce, trading more 'drag' for more grip. For most street cars, they design them to be neutral or zero lift for better fuel economy.

wstar · 05-01-2012, 04:16 PM

What everyone else said. Some other cars do horrible at high speed lift in the front, and I've driven several that felt very unsafe even at at mere ~100-115 mph. The Z with the front zero-lift system (all 3 bits) stays planted all the way (well, at least out to 150-something). It's a wonderful thing.

05-01-2012, 03:54 PM	#29 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	Leave it on, unless you plane on replacing it with a different one. The Z (coupe) looks naked without it. Also, if you lower your car, that too has an effect on the aerodynamics. The 'lift' effect at high speeds is very real and most cars are designed with zero lift in mind. Race cars are designed with downforce, trading more 'drag' for more grip. For most street cars, they design them to be neutral or zero lift for better fuel economy. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

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wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	What everyone else said. Some other cars do horrible at high speed lift in the front, and I've driven several that felt very unsafe even at at mere ~100-115 mph. The Z with the front zero-lift system (all 3 bits) stays planted all the way (well, at least out to 150-something). It's a wonderful thing. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

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04-28-2012, 11:42 PM	#16 (permalink)
troubadour Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 67 Drives: 2012 Coupe/Trg/Sprts Rep Power: 13	But there's no spoiler on the rear deck of the "straight" coupe, is there? Why should it make any difference whether one has a Sports or Touring package? Same engine, same basic car. ???

04-29-2012, 08:29 AM	#21 (permalink)
troubadour Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 67 Drives: 2012 Coupe/Trg/Sprts Rep Power: 13	So I think I'll probably have them removed. My plan was to keep them so that they could be reinstalled when I sell the car, as I expect most prospective owners would want them.

04-29-2012, 05:19 PM	#24 (permalink)
gbrettin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Portage, MI Posts: 2,282 Drives: Tricycle Rep Power: 589151	If you have the sport package then just leave it on. It's not really hurting anything. If you can not stand the look of the rear spoiler then you will need tot take your car to a body shop so they can fill in the holes that will be left behind ( as mentioned earlier).

04-29-2012, 07:14 PM	#26 (permalink)
troubadour Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 67 Drives: 2012 Coupe/Trg/Sprts Rep Power: 13	I read it. I'll pay the body shop to fill/paint.

05-01-2012, 03:37 PM	#27 (permalink)
Japanjay Track Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Puyallup Posts: 856 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z MB M6 Rep Power: 14	I have the sport package, so I cant speak for any differences in feel over the nismo or non-sport, but I do know at over 140mph mine starts to float. At 150mph it is to the point were your constantly bringing it back straight. Very hair raising to say the least. I wouldnt even attempt that in a non-sport model and wont be back into those numbers for any extended periods like before without some major aero work on the front and rear.