370z Vs Rx 7

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-27-2012, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

sorry to hear op

i would build the Z. newer platform and less known issues than the rotary rx-7. Z's cooling problems are easily solved.

Though I do love rx-7, I feel like the Z is "safer" choice.

Rx7 is a serious money pit. But you don't buy them to save money. I had a crapload of issues with mine. I hit hard times for a year so I just sold her.

theDreamer · 04-27-2012, 05:42 PM

To get you into the RX-7 mood, sad ending though.
Stance:Nation – Form > Function 500+ HP Mazda RX7 // The Ups & Downs.

MightyBobo · 04-27-2012, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Hahahaaaa... you took the words right outta my mouth brother... I had a 93 Rx-7. The 13b alone can be modded to get 500hp without going to extremes. In puerto rico, they have the fastest street legal rx7 on record. 900 street legal hp. All on the 13b. In PR you will find 2/3 of all Rx7 specialists., The rx7's and the old skool corolla's are like the unofficial national classic sports cars of pr. Lol.

The drawback to the Rx is low torque to hp ratio. But... boost and handling capability keeps the car crazy fun.

LS1 (not even going to get into the LS2/3/6/7) stock block/crank can handle 1000 HP. Doesn't take much beefing of the tranny to get there either.

500 crank HP is a baby cam, intake and exhaust away ($2000-ish). 500 WHP would take some decent heads (probably $1000 for re-done 5.3L or LS6 heads), a different cam, and intake manifold ($400ish). So we're up to about $4000ish to get to 500 WHP in a 15 year old motor, and it'll do it reliably.

I don't think there is a better performance bang-for-the-buck out there, except MAYBE the 2JZ-GTE...and the platform it rides in costs a fortune.

You rotor-heads need to get real lol...the concept was neat, but its such a terrible motor to mod and actually depend on...oh, and lets not forget that the putting an LSX in the FD IMPROVES the F/R weight distribution since the 13B is a veritable boat anchor

bigdog1250 · 04-27-2012, 06:44 PM

How is 150 not "too much top speed" No "back road" is suitable for 150mph... you sound nuts.

Take your gtr to the track and go enjoy yourself there.

MightyBobo · 04-27-2012, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdog1250

How is 150 not "too much top speed" No "back road" is suitable for 150mph... you sound nuts.

Take your gtr to the track and go enjoy yourself there.

Oh yeah, I forgot to say that...

Wanting to do those kinds of speeds on public roads is friggin' crazy, and stupid.

gtaylor1023 · 04-27-2012, 07:21 PM

I hit 150 on the interstates heading home after running. You are all right 150 one curve is suicide - my apologies to all.

So progressing farther - LS 1 rx 7 - or GTM 370z

gtaylor1023 · 04-27-2012, 07:34 PM

But to the gentleman "unknown". - the hp to torque ratio is fixed via the 3 rotor 20b - has anyone seen a 26b in a FD???

Would be cool to go alpha 9 and 370z. The brothers unite

Skeeterbop · 04-27-2012, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gtaylor1023

Ok guys - asking this on this board to get a different feel for the build as compared to the RX 7 or rotary boards.

What i am looking to do is build an acceleration monster for running NC vallies and country back roads. Not really too much top end speed but getting from 20-150 asap i feel could be fun.

Current cars:

2012 Nissan GTR

So ya, i have godzilla and am contimplating just putting in an AMS kit and calling it good but i thought i would expand the stable a little bit and see what opinions you guys have about it.

370z build with engine mods will be a must. Thinking 550-700 TO THE WHEELS would be necessary. Pros for this are is availablity and relative ease of the build. there are also a plethera of tuners to do such a build. next would be styling of the car. cool looking with great lines but this is also a negative as well since there are so many of them around. Body kit of extreme quality would be a nice option if you guys have ideas on such kits please let me know.

RX 7 - very light weight and cheap to get started. I have a few shops willing to fortify a 20B for me to support the 600+ HP i am asking for. These shops / engines aren't cheap. Also going with a True Veilside Fortune kit for it. Pros are amazing styling of that kit if you like the kit and power to weight ration. question is will i need some huge gaudy *** wing to keep that power gripped to the road.

I am also considering dual charging both cars if possible. SC for low end then Turbo for the high end - much like that gentlemen did in CA with his lotus

Lets try and keep this discussion to the finer points of the builds with no hazing / raggin on any posters or their opinions - we are all adults here.

Thanks

Greg

Firstly, asking here is going to get a fairly biased response. If I was in your shoes, I would just mod the GTR some and be happy. Secondly, i think your F****** stupid doing those kinds of speeds on the kind of roads I imagine you are talking about (I'm from east TN as well). It's just a matter of time before you kill yourself or somebody else. You may not be worried about yourself (and in that case I could care less), but you should atleast have some respect for others on the road. Do like some of the others have said and take it to the track. It's more fun and more rewarding IMO. Plus if you have the ability to afford a GTR a track day shouldn't be a problem. I'll get off the soap box now.

speedfreek · 04-27-2012, 08:18 PM

Get an old 260 and tub it out to put some bigger meat out back and do the LSX conversion on it. A guy here used to have one years ago that thing was insane!!! He always brought it out to AutoX.

Zerenity · 04-27-2012, 09:18 PM

Years ago I saw a shop drop in a 2JZ-GTE Supra engine into an RX7. That thing was a beast! 550-700HP is nothing for the 2JZ motor. Just an idea.

buddyZ · 04-27-2012, 10:56 PM

you have a freaking GTR man!!! forget the back roads

Compdoc777 · 04-27-2012, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by gtaylor1023

another side note.... reliabilty

since its not going to be a redline car 95% fo the car but hovering at 5-6500 rpms i would like the relability to be there.

5-6500 on the RX7? The car has a 9k rpm limit and even when your at 9k you can't feel it it is Lexus smooth. The only warning is a little red light and high pitched beep.

You can get a fresh build motor for around 1k.

13b should be all you need twin turbo up grade, bigger cooler and the normal bolt ons will net you 500 whp.

Heck my 93 R1 was at 350 whp and it is the fastest best handling car I have owned or driven to date. Easy as crap to work on. You can lift the motor with one hand. Take just seconds to get to 160 mph. The pull of the twin turbos is the bomb! I need to get another one.

That car was so bad that I would race people with cruise control!

gbrettin · 04-27-2012, 11:25 PM

Do you have a budget in mind? Anything can be done if you throw enough money at it.

Skeeterbop · 04-27-2012, 11:31 PM

I would honestly take the money I would spend on buying and modding the 370 and put most of it into the GTR if i were you. That could be one BA car.

gbrettin · 04-27-2012, 11:39 PM

A different option:

04-27-2012, 05:42 PM	#47 (permalink)
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bigdog1250 Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 846 Drives: 991.2 GT3 Rep Power: 18	How is 150 not "too much top speed" No "back road" is suitable for 150mph... you sound nuts. Take your gtr to the track and go enjoy yourself there. __________________ 350z / 40th 370z / C6 Z06 / BMW M4 / V10 R8 / C7 Grand Spot / 997.1 GT3 / S2K / Camaro ZL1 / 718 GTS / 991.2 GT3

04-27-2012, 07:34 PM	#52 (permalink)
gtaylor1023 Base Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: SC Posts: 19 Drives: 09 370z 6MT Rep Power: 14	But to the gentleman "unknown". - the hp to torque ratio is fixed via the 3 rotor 20b - has anyone seen a 26b in a FD??? Would be cool to go alpha 9 and 370z. The brothers unite Last edited by gtaylor1023; 04-27-2012 at 07:35 PM. Reason: Additional info

04-27-2012, 09:18 PM	#55 (permalink)
Zerenity Base Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 38 Drives: 2012 370Z PW 6MT Rep Power: 13	Years ago I saw a shop drop in a 2JZ-GTE Supra engine into an RX7. That thing was a beast! 550-700HP is nothing for the 2JZ motor. Just an idea. __________________ There's no such thing as awkward silence when you're talking to yourself.

04-27-2012, 11:31 PM	#59 (permalink)
Skeeterbop A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Age: 40 Posts: 1,440 Drives: 2011 GM 370 base SP Rep Power: 16	I would honestly take the money I would spend on buying and modding the 370 and put most of it into the GTR if i were you. That could be one BA car. __________________ Srenity: "Yeah no rest needed to spread the love when your 20 that's for sure...."

04-27-2012, 07:21 PM	#51 (permalink)
gtaylor1023 Base Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: SC Posts: 19 Drives: 09 370z 6MT Rep Power: 14	I hit 150 on the interstates heading home after running. You are all right 150 one curve is suicide - my apologies to all. So progressing farther - LS 1 rx 7 - or GTM 370z

04-27-2012, 08:18 PM	#54 (permalink)
speedfreek A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Huntsville,AL Posts: 1,724 Drives: '12 370Z PW 6sp Rep Power: 18	Get an old 260 and tub it out to put some bigger meat out back and do the LSX conversion on it. A guy here used to have one years ago that thing was insane!!! He always brought it out to AutoX.

04-27-2012, 10:56 PM	#56 (permalink)
buddyZ Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: socal Posts: 118 Drives: 2012 Base6mt Rep Power: 0	you have a freaking GTR man!!! forget the back roads

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gbrettin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Portage, MI Posts: 2,284 Drives: Tricycle Rep Power: 589151	Do you have a budget in mind? Anything can be done if you throw enough money at it.

04-27-2012, 11:39 PM	#60 (permalink)
gbrettin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Portage, MI Posts: 2,284 Drives: Tricycle Rep Power: 589151	A different option: Last edited by gbrettin; 04-27-2012 at 11:41 PM.