My 6MT vs Auto driving impression. Opinions please
 

I've been driving my 6MT for 14 months now and the bolt-ons I have are netting me around 310whp, untuned. Recently, I got a chance to drive around in a new bone stock '12 Auto for a day and I found it unusually torque-y driving around local. It felt like it had a bigger low-end punch than my car. I don't get it. My only guess is the mods I have pushed the power more up top.

Gearing

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Both of you are right. Gearing and mods redistributed how you feel initial torque. I like the way my AT feels in manual mode better than the manual Z though. As far as torque. Rough shifting in 2nd and 3rd gives the illusion of a torquier car. Some complain who want their Z to feel like a Honda Civic. I'm NOT one of them. I like the torquey jerkey feeling in 2nd and 3rd when decelerating or accelerating. The manual shifts a little smoother in those gears losing some of that throw you back torquey feel

The tq converter can do that, my experience driving an auto 370Z was that just like every other auto, it sucks. It cannot understand what the human mind is thinking when you barely tip into it, but do so fast. Do this in a manual, and all is well. Do this in an auto and you get: nooothhiinnngREVGOclunkcruiseupshift.

I hate autos of all sorts.

The ECU needs training with the auto. It needs time to understand your inputs. Once you hit 5k miles, the ecu knows your inputs. You are talking from test drives and very little experience on new autos. The Z auto works more like DCT than a traditional auto once broken in.

But anyway... to each his own.

Lay down the truth. You don't know how to drive MT. :p

Disclaimer: I am just kidding.

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That was awesome!:bowrofl:

I like to think that as long as I have two good legs I will be choosing a MT over a auto when the option is there!

ok, i heard this come up a few times. where can i read about this ecu "learning", because i havent seen any documentation on the subject. i dont question the validity, i just would like to learn the details of this technology, an how it applies to my car. any idea?

The Ecu is technically NOT a learning computer. But, it does get accustomed to our human impulses. if we keep pushing the car the sensors will try to keep up with our inputs. Its not like the ecu is trying to identify each individual and reprogramming the driving style for each person. But as you drive the car, the ecu will get coached along your daily driving response.
Try this. Drive aggressive for about a week and notice you will begin to feel improvements in throttle response of your car. But then drive like a granny for a couple weeks. After a couple of weeks go back to driving aggressive. The response time is slow. When I say learn. I don't mean learning. Its just the ecu on these cars seem to need coaching into faster responses.

I believe the AT has slightly more torque versus the manual right?

Both cars are brake rated at 332hp/270tq. Manuals dyno higher in hp while automatics have faster straight line times. Track times are driver dependent.

good enough. thanks unknown

:tup: welcome

Wow this thread has been civil all in all, and informative.