Where do you keep your keyfob? (Possibly NSFW)

Z_you_Later · 06-15-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

You should know better than to believe anything they tell you at the dealership.

From page 5-10 of the owners manual. (Click to enlarge.)

Good lookin out Semtex !! Thanks for the info ... I knew that didn't sound right and was wondering how that was even possible ... These car salesmen jus say anything sometimes to get a sales .. lolz

semtex · 06-15-2009, 04:56 PM

Heh, now I'm going to throw you for another loop. The manual says that the fobgina is there in case your battery runs low, then you can still start your car by sticking it in the fobgina, right? Well get this. I can't remember who it was, but someone told me that our ignition runs on RFID, and the battery isn't even required to start the car -- the battery is for the remote operations only, like locking/unlocking, panic button, etc. So I decided to put this claim to the test. I removed the battery from my fob completely, went and sat in my car, hit the start button, and guess what? It fired right up! So it really doesn't make sense for the manual to say that if your battery runs low you can stick it into the fobgina to start the car, because you don't need any battery whatsoever to start the car! It's bizarre.

370Z Purist · 06-15-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

Heh, now I'm going to throw you for another loop. The manual says that the fobgina is there in case your battery runs low, then you can still start your car by sticking it in the fobgina, right? Well get this. I can't remember who it was, but someone told me that our ignition runs on RFID, and the battery isn't even required to start the car -- the battery is for the remote operations only, like locking/unlocking, panic button, etc. So I decided to put this claim to the test. I removed the battery from my fob completely, went and sat in my car, hit the start button, and guess what? It fired right up! So it really doesn't make sense for the manual to say that if your battery runs low you can stick it into the fobgina to start the car, because you don't need any battery whatsoever to start the car! It's bizarre.

The hell?

Wait, so what if it had no battery and you were outside?
Try opening the door using the button. The trunk should behave the same way too. If that works then... well, just now you go right next to your car and use the buttons. Isn't that how most people do it? I never actually press anything on the fob.
lol wow that's just stupid.

marcussoori · 06-15-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

rofl. fobgina even made it to the urban dictionary:
Urban Dictionary: Fobgina

Unrelated, but "sitkowned", for those of you who remember the story, is now an accepted word on Urban Dictionary!!

Also, see www.nsxprime.com forums, where this topic originated!

semtex · 06-15-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Z Purist

The hell?

Wait, so what if it had no battery and you were outside?
Try opening the door using the button. The trunk should behave the same way too. If that works then... well, just now you go right next to your car and use the buttons. Isn't that how most people do it? I never actually press anything on the fob.
lol wow that's just stupid.

I'm not 100% sure because it's been a while since I conducted this little experiment, but I want to say that hitting the button to unlock the door did not work. So if your battery were dead, you'd have to detach the key from the fob to gain entry. But once inside the car, you can just put the fob back in your pocket and hit the start button as usual.

370Z Purist · 06-15-2009, 06:08 PM

Well, whoever said that the key works on RFID may be right; but it doesn't work without a battery. The car likely sends a signal, which the keyfob is supposed to recognize and then send an acknowledgment signal.

I just did the above and everything, and you still need the key in the "fobgina" (

) for it to acknowledge you're authorized.

So yeah, your keyfob needs the battery to work.

semtex · 06-16-2009, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Z Purist

Well, whoever said that the key works on RFID may be right; but it doesn't work without a battery. The car likely sends a signal, which the keyfob is supposed to recognize and then send an acknowledgment signal.

I just did the above and everything, and you still need the key in the "fobgina" (

) for it to acknowledge you're authorized.

So yeah, your keyfob needs the battery to work.

Yep, you're right. I got my memory wires crossed on this one. The battery can be completely dead or even removed, but you still need to insert it into the fobgina for the car to start. The manual only references if the battery is low, so it kinda implies that you still need some tiny bit of juice in the battery in order for it to work. But that's not the case.

armensti · 06-16-2009, 03:42 PM

i dont feel comfortable when i have something in my pockets. so i always empty out everything Inside the center armrest.

View Poll Results: Where do you keep your keyfob?
In the cubby hole (non nav members)	7	4.27%
In the center drink holder	13	7.93%
Driver side door beverage holder	0	0%
Inside center armrest.	3	1.83%
On passenger seat	2	1.22%
In my pocket	138	84.15%
Behind the passenger seat storage area.	1	0.61%
Behind the sunvisor	0	0%
Voters: 164. You may not vote on this poll

06-15-2009, 04:56 PM	#62 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 32	Heh, now I'm going to throw you for another loop. The manual says that the fobgina is there in case your battery runs low, then you can still start your car by sticking it in the fobgina, right? Well get this. I can't remember who it was, but someone told me that our ignition runs on RFID, and the battery isn't even required to start the car -- the battery is for the remote operations only, like locking/unlocking, panic button, etc. So I decided to put this claim to the test. I removed the battery from my fob completely, went and sat in my car, hit the start button, and guess what? It fired right up! So it really doesn't make sense for the manual to say that if your battery runs low you can stick it into the fobgina to start the car, because you don't need any battery whatsoever to start the car! It's bizarre. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

06-15-2009, 06:08 PM	#66 (permalink)
370Z Purist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Zion, Illinois Posts: 1,873 Drives: '09 370Z-T BS M6 Rep Power: 19	Well, whoever said that the key works on RFID may be right; but it doesn't work without a battery. The car likely sends a signal, which the keyfob is supposed to recognize and then send an acknowledgment signal. I just did the above and everything, and you still need the key in the "fobgina" () for it to acknowledge you're authorized. So yeah, your keyfob needs the battery to work. __________________ -Phil "Since one of my brake light bulbs just went out, the forum told me that my piston rings are about to blow."

06-16-2009, 03:42 PM	#68 (permalink)
armensti Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: CA Posts: 447 Drives: 370Z/Tring/Spt/6MT Rep Power: 16	i dont feel comfortable when i have something in my pockets. so i always empty out everything Inside the center armrest.