Windows Rolling Down on their own!

Robert_Nash · 06-09-2009, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Diversion

Wish we could remotely put the windows up.. Or give the car some logic:

If windows are down, engine off and you get out and walk too far away that the windows go up automatically... ya know? Or holding the lock button on the fob can roll them up all the way.. I'm sure Nissan felt there are some safety issues with the idea and thats why you can't do it.. but c'mon..

Someone get to work and make it happen!

It's been done - I saw a module installed at ZDayZ back in '05 (with a 350 of course).

I don't know if the circuitry for the windows in the 370 has actually changed from the 350 or not but I doubt it has changed much.

Unfortunately I have no idea what company did those modifications/who created the module to make it work...they same guys also had a module that made the VDC a manual option; in other words, if you had it turned "off" it stayed off until you turned it back on or if it ws "on" it stayed "on" until you turned it off (rather than always defaulting to "on" every time you start the vehicle).

CBRich · 06-09-2009, 09:34 AM

It sounds to me like you're talking about KPTechnologies.

jakoye · 06-09-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert_Nash

Many Nissan vehicles, the Z included, will roll the passenger windows down if the "unlock" tab on the fob it depressed for a few seconds (probably 5-10) and if you keep holding the tab, the windows will roll completely down (my M45 does the same with all four side windows).

What's the usefulness of this "feature"? Seems more annoying to inadvertently roll down your windows for the small gain of having this ability. I can think of few reasons why I'd want to roll down my windows remotely (well, none come to mind, actually!).

Perhaps the key fob should have a "lock" setting so that any inadvertent button pushes would be ignored (like on a cellphone). That way you can put it in your pocket and not have to worry about auto-magically rolling down your windows.

semtex · 06-09-2009, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diversion

Wish we could remotely put the windows up.. Or give the car some logic:

If windows are down, engine off and you get out and walk too far away that the windows go up automatically... ya know? Or holding the lock button on the fob can roll them up all the way.. I'm sure Nissan felt there are some safety issues with the idea and thats why you can't do it.. but c'mon..

Someone get to work and make it happen!

One safety issue to consider with a remote auto-up feature is that a person might have the windows down because s/he has a pet inside or something. If they accidentally close the windows, then the result could be a convection-roasted Fido. And of course, Nissan would probably get sued. So not having remote up may ultimately have as much to do with lawsuit avoidance as it does with a real concern for safety.

CBRich · 06-09-2009, 11:12 AM

The KPTech link I posted earlier does have the roll-up feature for most Nissans. I posted in their forum to ask about testing this and some other things on the 370Z.

Robert_Nash · 06-09-2009, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jakoye

What's the usefulness of this "feature"? Seems more annoying to inadvertently roll down your windows for the small gain of having this ability. I can think of few reasons why I'd want to roll down my windows remotely (well, none come to mind, actually!).

Perhaps the key fob should have a "lock" setting so that any inadvertent button pushes would be ignored (like on a cellphone). That way you can put it in your pocket and not have to worry about auto-magically rolling down your windows.

I could say something cutting such as "anyone who can't operate a key fob properly shouldn't be driving anything, much less a performance/sports car" but I'll refrain from that.

I've always carried my key fob in my pocket and have for as long as there has been key fobs...there have been times when I've hit a key (like the panic button) without intending to but I've never done so while the fob was in my pocket!

Personally, I like the feature a great deal - when I'm still quite a distance away, I can roll down my windows and start airing out the cabin and thereby reduce some of the heat build-up that has happened while I've been in the office, etc...not an unimportant feature when "cool" summer days here means the temp has stayed below 96 degrees!

Really, this feature (or something similar) has been available on many higher-end cars (BMW, Audie, etc) for many years...I don't see why it would be a cause for consternation for anyone and I suspect that if it were deleted, there would be no end of complaints about Nissan being cheep and not having a feature everyone else has.

jakoye · 06-09-2009, 12:39 PM

That was about the only idea I could think of for having this feature: airing out the car a bit before one got to it. I wonder how many people actually USE this feature as you do (compared to how many owners aren't even aware it exists!)?

It's definitely new to me. No Audis or BMWs in my garage in the last couple years.

Robert_Nash · 06-09-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jakoye

That was about the only idea I could think of for having this feature: airing out the car a bit before one got to it. I wonder how many people actually USE this feature as you do (compared to how many owners aren't even aware it exists!)?

It's definitely new to me. No Audis or BMWs in my garage in the last couple years.

I'm sure many people don't know but if people won't bother to read their owner's manual and learn about their car's features; what is a manufacturer to do?

jakoye · 06-09-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert_Nash

I'm sure many people don't know but if people won't bother to read their owner's manual and learn about their car's features; what is a manufacturer to do?

The only answer is neon. Preferably flashing!

Love that picture of your pup in the front seat. Co-pilot!

Robert_Nash · 06-09-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jakoye

The only answer is neon. Preferably flashing!

Love that picture of your pup in the front seat. Co-pilot!

Thanks...she's my girl!

That pic was taken at ZAttack8 this year in Nashville at the Nissan Americas new headquarters building...something really had her attention as she was definitely focused on something!

wstar · 06-09-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert_Nash

Personally, I like the feature a great deal - when I'm still quite a distance away, I can roll down my windows and start airing out the cabin and thereby reduce some of the heat build-up that has happened while I've been in the office, etc...not an unimportant feature when "cool" summer days here means the temp has stayed below 96 degrees!

Me too. It's pretty much habit now that summer heat is here. If I park my Z in the sun somewhere (like out to lunch), the first thing I do on my way out of the restaurant/store is hold down that button and get the windows unrolled so that the car's interior cools off by the time I make my way to the car.

kraphy · 02-01-2010, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Attaboy

if you had your keyfob in your pocket and the unlock button was by chance mashed down for a while your windows would have rolled down on their own. I did this one day after coming home, parking, then working in the yard. I heard the car beep and unlock, then the windows rolled down shortly after. I then realized that while I was pulling weeds the junk in my pocket had inadvertently mashed the unlock button.

fortunately i was aware that holding the unlock button for a time would make this happen, otherwise i would have freaked.

This was so friggin helpful. The windows being down happened for the second time and I was starting to frik out.

+1!

yubman · 02-01-2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kraphy

This was so friggin helpful. The windows being down happened for the second time and I was starting to frik out.

+1!

Just a question. Were the doors also unlocked? I believe (haven't checked yet since it's freaking freezing outside) that when you hold the unlock button down, the doors unlock, and if you continue to hold the button the windows then roll down.

So if the doors were still locked, but the windows down could it be a problem?

I only ask as I was previously thinking of getting a Mini Cooper before finding the Z a much better fit for me, and one problem that keeps cropping up in the Mini forums were that the windows would roll down by themselves. Turns out that manytimes a switch in the door would get wet and roll the windows down, usually in a rain storm.

A link to the Mini forum for refrence to thier window problems:
MINI COOPER :: North American Motoring - Windows opened during the night!?!?!

OldGuy · 02-01-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert_Nash

Many Nissan vehicles, the Z included, will roll the passenger windows down if the "unlock" tab on the fob it depressed for a few seconds (probably 5-10) and if you keep holding the tab, the windows will roll completely down (my M45 does the same with all four side windows).

That's likely what happened here.

Also, some of you may not realize that you can put all windows up by using the key in the door lock; turn the key to the lock position for a few seconds and hold it there and the windows will roll up...convenient if you want to roll up your windows without messing with the ignition/starting the vehicle.

Is this the case for the Base model also, or only for the Touring?

semtex · 02-01-2010, 03:23 PM

What does your manual say? I would think it's true for Base as well.

06-09-2009, 12:39 PM	#22 (permalink)
jakoye Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Seattle Posts: 257 Drives: 06 Mustang GT Rep Power: 16	That was about the only idea I could think of for having this feature: airing out the car a bit before one got to it. I wonder how many people actually USE this feature as you do (compared to how many owners aren't even aware it exists!)? It's definitely new to me. No Audis or BMWs in my garage in the last couple years. __________________ Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven.

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semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 32	What does your manual say? I would think it's true for Base as well. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

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06-09-2009, 09:34 AM	#17 (permalink)
CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	It sounds to me like you're talking about KPTechnologies.

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CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	The KPTech link I posted earlier does have the roll-up feature for most Nissans. I posted in their forum to ask about testing this and some other things on the 370Z.