regular gas + octane booster= ? RON
 

I curious if anyone has run regular gas and an octane booster that is compatiable with the Z in daily communting. If so post your experience.

I put 6 bottles of octane booster in every fill up... :happydance:



But seriously, I am pretty sure this stuff has all been tested and it doesnt work... :twocents:

those bottles aren't cheap either.. think it'd be less expensive to just get the high octane from the station hehe

use toulene if you're serious.

Depends on how you define "work".. because I expect some of them make all kinds of claims.

I can say that I have a few older cars with high compression that detonate if I run regular. If I find myself in a situation where I'm not able to purshase premium, I put one of these in and I don't have an issue.

Check the google, I bet it's been studied in labs, just make sure it's an independent study.

I just checked the Google for myself. It seems like a tough question to answer, due to variability in additive types, the gas you start with, and the methods of test. Next time, I'll wait until I hear the detonation and then add it in order to determine if it is working.

You have to remember that the dealership put regular gas in your car when you bought it. I doubt that regular gas will mess up the car. Now if you have a turbo charger or supercharger, then that is a different story & you better go premium. Getting the middle grade is a joke & a waste of money. The reason is that you really have no idea if it is 1% better than regular, or a couple % lower that premium. Everytime you change your oil drop in an octane booster when you fill up your car.

constant use of regular gas causes early knock sensor failure!

This.

Why would you assume the dealer fills it up with regular?

The car is tuned from Nissan to require 91 AKI, and unless you never put it under load, it's a bad idea to run a lower than recommended octane.

Octane boosters, at best, may add .5 AKI.

I don't know of any cars tuned to take advantage of midgrade. Might be worthwhile on an older motor tuned for regular that's prone to ping for one reason or another (e.g., carbon deposits on pistons creating hot spots).

What does changing the oil have to do with anything? :confused:

I've heard that whenever you decide to change your oil & you need to put gas in put an octane booster. Put an octane booster every time you fill up if you want. I'm just saying.

There is absolutely no logical reason for that. There is no direct relationship between the oil and the octane requirements for the motor.

Also no real benefit of higher octane than you are tuned for. Those products are def not something I would mess with... def won't increase performance, all it could do is hurt.

This is your best bet. All your going to get is a little better throttle response. I'd leave it alone personally.

Several threads similar to this. Last time I came across one I replied with some of the actual math that one should use to calculate effective octane rating based on adding things.

Math is fun kids, check it out :D

If you are using a bottle of snake oil, do the math at what it does per volume of fuel you are working with and make an informed decision.

Non-math example with real world economics:

If I use 15 gal of 87 octane, I save about $4.5 vs buying premium (30c per gallon, some spreads are lower so this is a high number). You are not going to raise your the effective octane 4 points on 15 gallons of fuel for < $4.50.

If you find such a product, let us all know. Just watch out for strangers hanging around your house...it may be Big Oil trying to silence you.

- b

I am not sure where to purchase Toulene. Any idea?

paint store. sherwin willams

btw, do at your own risk. it works though.

You shouldn't do this, but you should definately try it.

Forget it,use Shell V-Power,i still think it is still the best petrol around[I mean in S'pore].

:iagree:5 gallons of toulene/2.5oz 2 stroke oil/fill up the rest of the tank with 93 octane =100 octane fuel.:happydance:

It works great!!!!

Also you should know that Toulene is in everybody gasoline right now,it is a by product of gas when they manufacture it.

i use sunoco 94 with lucas ocatine boost/

jay
 

I work for a rental car company , and I am a mechanic , we have several cars that takes premium fuel , bmw,infinity and I don't think rental car companies use premium fuel , and the cars run just fine, no problems from running regular fuel. the ecm compensates for the fuel.

The ECM will change spark advance to compensate for different octane gas. Never heard that the Knock sensor will fail if you use different octane gas. I'll have to research that one, Thanks!

If the sensor fails and it cannot detect knock...bad things can happen sure.

Not sure about the specific car, but knock sensors often are simple electric/acoustic devices. The sensor detects noise and the system filters out knock regulal engine noise levels. Knock is typically a huge spike in that noise floor and easy to see from an algorithm perspective. They don't touch fuel and they are not effected by what fuel you use.

All of this is moot if you simply use appropriate octane fuel and not 'rely' on the safety systems of the car because you are too cheap to use the right fuel.

Rental cars do have that problem: a few times I have rented a car with premium fuel and I would bet 9/10 renters don't top off with premium. I did top off with premium just because its the right thing to do. The extra $1 didn't hurt me.

Since rental cars are new, you would hope things all work and the car has retarded timing and lower power levels due to this. Is it good for the car? I would say no. Do you care? Only if you are the poor sap who buys that car once the rental car company is done with it. I always wonder if people who buy them are fully aware of their use history.

- b

Then your dealer is full of morons. The its not recommended to run Premium in these cara its a must. And I'm pretty sure it says in owners manual if u need to run reg get it out ASAP. Why this thread even exist boggles my mind. Don't people do research before buying a car?

Yeah, but those people don't wind up here.

Is this obtainable outside of California? About a dozen years ago this was taken off the shelves.

Never mind Sherwin Williams. Read on further.

Omg guys! Let's start a thread about what else our car can run on besides the fuel that it was intended to take! Of course, unicorn blood is the first thing that comes to mind, but what about panther piss, women's breast milk (with an octane booster, of course), and ocean water? Would that work too??


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You don't know what you are talking about Toulene is in gasoline now.:shakes head:

hey baer- i think he waz talking about adding water... :icon17:

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hi mt tam! :tup: yes, acehardware online sells them also amazon.

why california can have good things and not us? :confused: like in-n-out burger we dont have. :crying:

Yes, this was the case.

Actually, it reminded me of a video clip I saw one time where a guy built some crazy engine that ran on water, or just about any liquid you put in it. I'll see if I can dig it up.


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Regualr gas (87Ron) + octane booster
 

That's what I have reviewed from my on-line research as well. That's why I am asking for other 370Z owners for there experience in adding octance booster to regular gas. Thus far frorm the responses, no one including myself, has added octane booster to regular gas.

37Z- find out the formula how to increase octane online. search toulene and formula or calculation etc.

then you will know why octane booster bottles dont do anything worth crap especially when mixed to 18+ gallons of gas. lol :rofl2:

:iagree:

:tup:

and another reason why i dont use Sta-bil in gas either for storage.

I don't use anything in my gas for storage, I just start everything once a week let it warm up to normal temps and that's it.

i dont even start the car. :tup: 3-3.5months for me usually with a full tank. :)

now back to our 'octane booster bottles dont work' program...:icon17: