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Old 04-18-2012, 06:39 PM   #151 (permalink)
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^^ Long Island guy here, it took me 5 minutes. New York highways aren't very good, too many potholes though I expect it will be better this summer since we had no winter.
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Old 04-18-2012, 07:44 PM   #152 (permalink)
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Smooth as butter relative to...a sentra?

Have you ever owned a car with a decent transmission?


Smooth as in not notchy. I can shift with one finger. There is no clunky sounds. I can shift fast with no issue. What more do you want?
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Old 04-18-2012, 07:47 PM   #153 (permalink)
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Smooth as in not notchy. I can shift with one finger. There is no clunky sounds. I can shift fast with no issue. What more do you want?
So, no?
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Old 04-18-2012, 08:38 PM   #154 (permalink)
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Best gearboxes I've encountered would have to be in the E46 M3 and RX-8 (which is the same gearbox as the S2k). Many would agree.

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LOL! I drove my Z to school and work today and everytime I made a smooth as melting butter shift I thought of all the complaints on this forum about the hard notchy shifting and started laughing. People in the other cars must think I'm nuts. I dont disagree that there are cars out there like the S2K that have a better feeling gearbox but I said it once and I will keep saying, 99.9% of the complaints I hear about this gearbox is due to bad stick drivers.
can you clarify this statement?
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^ S2K has a better feeling gearbox, yes, but its also due to the fact that its putting down 150 lb-ft of torque lol, tranismissions are designed with the engine that is going to go with the car in mind

Anyway, back to the topic. I really feel like the Z is one of the few "true" sports cars left out there with a simple manual transmission gear box, without too many gizmos and gadgets inside the car trying to launch it as fast as possible (GT-R) in the market along with a few Porsches, which is why I got it. I like the way Ford has gone, going back to its roots and creating a manual transmission fun sports car that rivals the feel of the old 60's stangs. The s2000 (discontinued) miata and cars like the M3, 1M, Porsche GT3 are the few old school sports cars still left out there. I'd take the Z over one a lot of those new cars that take the driver out of the experience (see GT-R and most new Mercedes Sports cars)

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^ S2K has a better feeling gearbox, yes, but its also due to the fact that its putting down 150 lb-ft of torque lol, tranismissions are designed with the engine that is going to go with the car in mind
Rumor has it the S2K transmission not only can handle ~500 ft/lbs of torque, it still feels great laying it down.
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^ I'd believe that. I drive an Si as my daily (6 speed) and its buttery smooth every time i shift it. It's got some other problems (i.e 3rd gear pop out) but yeah, Honda can make a transmission for sure. But for 90% of the other vehicles ive driven with 200+ lb-ft torque and 250+ hp, the Z's transmission is not bad.
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Rumor has it the S2K transmission not only can handle ~500 ft/lbs of torque, it still feels great laying it down.
Too bad you don't know a thing about that kind of power.
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^ I'd believe that. I drive an Si as my daily (6 speed) and its buttery smooth every time i shift it. It's got some other problems (i.e 3rd gear pop out) but yeah, Honda can make a transmission for sure. But for 90% of the other vehicles ive driven with 200+ lb-ft torque and 250+ hp, the Z's transmission is not bad.
I currently drive a 2004 Accord 6MT (240ish hp and I think about 180 ft lbs) with 110K miles and the original clutch is still amazingly smooth. I swear a perfect shift in that car even now is better than the Z with SRM on. It was my wife's DD before we got her the Z, and now she's like 'I can't feel your clutch at all!'

Personally, though, I like the 'rougher' action in a vehicle with more power like the Z.
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Rumor has it the S2K transmission not only can handle ~500 ft/lbs of torque, it still feels great laying it down.
Not a rumor but a fact, I used to own a 580whp 390wtq s2k and stock transmission did great for the 3 years that I owned it (the car was driven hard), all that's needed is a new clutch.

From what I remember people on s2ki did big turbo builds on stock transmission, the weak link was the differential which was remedied by going aftermarket.

To this day I can't think of a manual transmission that shifts as nice as the s2k.
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Not a rumor but a fact, I used to own a 580whp 390wtq s2k and stock transmission did great for the 3 years that I owned it (the car was driven hard), all that's needed is a new clutch.

From what I remember people on s2ki did big turbo builds on stock transmission, the weak link was the differential which was remedied by going aftermarket.

To this day I can't think of a manual transmission that shifts as nice as the s2k.
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^ I'd believe that. I drive an Si as my daily (6 speed) and its buttery smooth every time i shift it. It's got some other problems (i.e 3rd gear pop out) but yeah, Honda can make a transmission for sure. But for 90% of the other vehicles ive driven with 200+ lb-ft torque and 250+ hp, the Z's transmission is not bad.

I was being a bit sarcastic

I used to have an s2k laying ~530wtq, trans still felt great (although it was definitely less reliable if abused).

OnCallZ, as you noted, the diff was the weak point. Ironically enough, I remedied this with a 300ZX TT diff

Were you on S2ki?
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My 1.3 rotary pushes out 368 whp...twin turbo that is

just feel like puting it out there

Oh and 200 torque
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Old 04-18-2012, 10:54 PM   #164 (permalink)
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The amount of troll in this thread makes me lol.

Anyways, from my meager experience I find the 370z transmission to be very good. I have absolutely no trouble making buttery smooths shifts either in stop and go traffic or with the pedal mashed to the floor. Took me about a month of driving it before I truly mastered this gearbox though
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Hey NYBladeZ, if there was one mod (mechanical or otherwise) that you would not do again, what would it be?
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