Former Z Owner's Rant about the 370z

MacLean

......... Absolutely

UNKNOWN_370

I respect the opinions here BUT...

My thing is this... when you buy a Z, you know you are buying a NATURALLY-ASPIRATED V6. What do you really expect from bolt ons? Torque underwhelming??? Ok, if you have 332hp and 270lbs of torque. You are not going to get neck snapping torque easily with a 62hp deficit on tthe torque.
Any serious tuner that has been around v8's and v6's knows turbo is the only way to go with an NA v6 if 1/4miles and top speeds are your main goals.
If I had a gripe it would only be the cost of modding a Z. Every aftermarket part comes with an azzrape surcharge.
Also, we sometimes don't know a cars full potential, not because of a limited budget, but because we will chose mods according to taste or apprearance and not functionality in some cases.
Its no porsche because nissan spent the price on the whole Z in the chassis alone. Its no M3 cuz its not a turbo 6 or V8 depending on your year.
That's just me... maybe I'm too rational and less emotional about my expectations from the Z. At 40k we can't have our cake and eat it too. If there was a turbo model for our Z's? It would start @ 44k for the base model you know today. 55k would be an optioned Z. that price range attracts more american and german sports car buyers than japanese ones. That's why we didn't get it.
Maybe R&D will give us a nicely equipped turbo Z with 400hp @ sub 40k? But I heavily doubt it for $40k. If it was that easy? Camaros and mustangs would be FI at the Z price range too.

That's just me though... good luck blades and you definately had a hot Z.

lemon-fresh

^ Naturally Aspirated

In the back of my mind I know there are other faster cars cruising around but where I live the 370 is seen so rarely it feels like an exotic. If I owned a 135i or an sti it would only be about modding the **** out of it so I could compete with all the other 135's and sti's.

With the Z I feel I can take my time, the mods actually mean more than just getting the car to be faster, finding a perfect exhaust note or adding that evo-r rear diffusor are things I never would have considered on other cars because I felt it wouldn't have mattered.

Maybe I'm just settling for something slower... I just feel that if it were a "street king" or some cheaper turbo car the obsession with blindly dumping money into it would be greater because it would be so much less about the total package and more about being the fastest drag racer around.

mic_crispy

sucks man. Not to be a ****, but odds are unless you used dry CF most of your cf pieces were heavier than the aluminum you replaced.

And im not sure how you can be upset for a NA v6 making "only" about 340 whp modded. that's insanely good for a NA6.... and not sure how you wouldnt see this coming? Try owning a s2k... you can throw 10k at that thing and barely pickup 25whp over stock(staying NA).

Whats next?

kenchan

damn... you are a slow learner... this is like the 2nd or 3rd time.

mhcoss

How much weight did you shave off with all your carbon fiber modding?

m4a1mustang

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NYBladeZ

Its not just that I found the torque underwhelming, its the fact that its extremely high up in the power. I found myself always have to reach for it, frustrating. The Z is great for what it is but considering that we are the "evolution" of the 350z and HR motors are showing great torque gains after F.I. whereas we are not (damn you VVEL), I guess in hindsight I wanted a little more. 350whp sounds much nicer than 33x.xx whp. My CF pieces weighed less than my stockers, not saying the OEM pieces aren't already stupid light but CF was still lighter, add a braille batter and I don't think I could have shaved anymore without going full racecar.

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m4a1mustang

Just sounds like it wasn't the right fit for you. Sometimes that happens. And sometimes you just need more than one car to keep you happy.

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speedfreek

Wait a minute....the Z is NON-ASPIRATED that explains everything

KaienZ34

Sad be damn true...

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UNKNOWN_370

Ur a real champion G.

kenchan

btw, we're just kidding.

NYBladeZ

Perhaps, I mean its easy to find all the gripes with the car after its gone. I still stand by my assertion that the Z is a great car and I loved having one but I didn't love it say as much as I loved my 2004 Mustang GT. It was a fun ride while it lasted.

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UNKNOWN_370

Its so easy to dissect a word and feel like a G in writing. Ok the second half of that is V6. V6 usually will either give you average torque and high HP. Or it will give you average hp and good torque.
When the Z33 first came out. It was balanced with 287 hp and 280lbs of torque, but nissan decided to play HP wars, now the engine as it was very balanced and pulling a lot of power with the original tune, but over time each new tune either added better quarter times or better 0-60. It was hard to get both because the VQ was maxed out from the onset.
You can use bolt ons for different applications and pull pretty high numbers. But its hard to get that necksnapping power out of such a small powerplant.
This is why BMW opted for the 3.0 with the turbo. Its a better balance of hp/tq and with fgoing FI you can keep the torque/hp ratio.
The only way to get both hp and high torque on a non asp motor is to go v8 or FI.