Former Z Owner's Rant about the 370z

kenchan · 04-17-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

btw, we're just kidding.

.... or not.

looks like im in unknown's ignore list.

m4a1mustang · 04-17-2012, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Ur a real champion G.

Lighten up...

speedfreek · 04-17-2012, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Its so easy to dissect a word and feel like a G in writing.

SiXK · 04-17-2012, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I respect the opinions here BUT...

My thing is this... when you buy a Z, you know you are buying a NON-ASPIRATED V6. What do you really expect from bolt ons? Torque underwhelming??? Ok, if you have 332hp and 270lbs of torque. You are not going to get neck snapping torque easily with a 62hp deficit on tthe torque.
Any serious tuner that has been around v8's and v6's knows turbo is the only way to go with an NA v6 if 1/4miles and top speeds are your main goals.
If I had a gripe it would only be the cost of modding a Z. Every aftermarket part comes with an azzrape surcharge.
Also, we sometimes don't know a cars full potential, not because of a limited budget, but because we will chose mods according to taste or apprearance and not functionality in some cases.
Its no porsche because nissan spent the price on the whole Z in the chassis alone. Its no M3 cuz its not a turbo 6 or V8 depending on your year.
That's just me... maybe I'm too rational and less emotional about my expectations from the Z. At 40k we can't have our cake and eat it too. If there was a turbo model for our Z's? It would start @ 44k for the base model you know today. 55k would be an optioned Z. that price range attracts more american and german sports car buyers than japanese ones. That's why we didn't get it.
Maybe R&D will give us a nicely equipped turbo Z with 400hp @ sub 40k? But I heavily doubt it for $40k. If it was that easy? Camaros and mustangs would be FI at the Z price range too.

That's just me though... good luck blades and you definately had a hot Z.

I have to agree with this, I mean, did you not understand you were buying a naturally aspirated V6? Huge power gains with bolt-ons just doesn't seem realistic.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-17-2012, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ

Perhaps, I mean its easy to find all the gripes with the car after its gone. I still stand by my assertion that the Z is a great car and I loved having one but I didn't love it say as much as I loved my 2004 Mustang GT. It was a fun ride while it lasted.

The important part is you had fun while it lasted. Good luck bruh.

alcheng · 04-17-2012, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I respect the opinions here BUT...

My thing is this... when you buy a Z, you know you are buying a NON-ASPIRATED V6.

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Originally Posted by kenchan

damn... you are a slow learner... this is like the 2nd or 3rd time.

Mr.kenchan, take it easy on Mr.UNKNOWN_370, it's allergy season right now, anything can't breath thus non-aspirated.

Back to the topic. The Z has a 3.7l engine that bunps out 332hp on flywheel. On the book, it's pretty much max out the ability of a production N/A engine.

To extract much more hp from it, unless you race-tune it, and that will cost you a fortune and reduce the lifespan of the engine.

Cheers

m4a1mustang · 04-17-2012, 02:01 PM

Like I said earlier to go from 270 to 315+ is pretty impressive with just simple breathing mods and a tune.

For reference, the 4.6L 3-Valve V8s in the older Mustangs typically dynoed 315-330whp with intake, exhaust, and tune. Keep things in perspective and the 3.7 is fairly impressive.

Perspective is the operative word, of course. If you expect to to behave like an LSX when you cam it... you're in for nothing but disappointment!

rebe945 · 04-17-2012, 02:16 PM

is my weekend and cruising car. Its looks, now that I have new wheels and tires, maKE IT MORE ENJOYABLE. I might add more in the future but now am very satisfied especially since its not my daily driver. Thats the key for me. I really enjoy taking her out. The feel ,looks everything.

NYBladeZ · 04-17-2012, 03:10 PM

^^ I feel exactly the opposite. It wasn't my daily driver, perhaps that's why I wanted more. When I did drive it, it just didn't give me that giggle. Oh well, Camry ain't gonna give me giggles either. Perhaps the wife will....haha.

red6spd · 04-17-2012, 03:15 PM

Sad to see another Z gone on the Island. I'm also not ashamed to say my $34,000 Z will get out run by a stock $60k+ M3 a modded $50k+ Cayman and a modded $40k+ BMW that looks like a clown car... Just saying.

NYBladeZ · 04-17-2012, 03:17 PM

Now I shouldn't say this but...when we ran at the "track" when fully modded I feared no m6 e92 m3. The Z has a great power to weight ratio.

lemon-fresh · 04-17-2012, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ

Now I shouldn't say this but...when we ran at the "track" when fully modded I feared no m6 e92 m3. The Z has a great power to weight ratio.

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ

When I did drive it, it just didn't give me that giggle. Oh well, Camry ain't gonna give me giggles either. Perhaps the wife will....haha.

Sure you aren't just trying to find justifications for your decision?

Congrats on beating e92's, not sure how you managed to get up to 330-340whp with all NA mods.

NYBladeZ · 04-17-2012, 03:46 PM

Long tube headers were a big factor, they really wake the car up. Its not for everyone, only the guys who like a louder car and don't mind the VQ hiss.

lemon-fresh · 04-17-2012, 03:50 PM

Interesting, good to know. Even at ~315whp I'd say the Z puts up some decent competition against stock e92's.

Red__Zed · 04-17-2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lemon-fresh

Sure you aren't just trying to find justifications for your decision?

Congrats on beating e92's, not sure how you managed to get up to 330-340whp with all NA mods.

Ny dynos are as real as the average streetside rolex

04-17-2012, 02:01 PM	#37 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Like I said earlier to go from 270 to 315+ is pretty impressive with just simple breathing mods and a tune. For reference, the 4.6L 3-Valve V8s in the older Mustangs typically dynoed 315-330whp with intake, exhaust, and tune. Keep things in perspective and the 3.7 is fairly impressive. Perspective is the operative word, of course. If you expect to to behave like an LSX when you cam it... you're in for nothing but disappointment! __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

04-17-2012, 02:16 PM	#38 (permalink)
rebe945 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: middleburg hts, ohio Posts: 491 Drives: 2009 370Z black 7at Rep Power: 15	To Me My Z is my weekend and cruising car. Its looks, now that I have new wheels and tires, maKE IT MORE ENJOYABLE. I might add more in the future but now am very satisfied especially since its not my daily driver. Thats the key for me. I really enjoy taking her out. The feel ,looks everything.

04-17-2012, 03:10 PM	#39 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 20	^^ I feel exactly the opposite. It wasn't my daily driver, perhaps that's why I wanted more. When I did drive it, it just didn't give me that giggle. Oh well, Camry ain't gonna give me giggles either. Perhaps the wife will....haha. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

04-17-2012, 03:15 PM	#40 (permalink)
red6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 3,277 Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT Rep Power: 21	Sad to see another Z gone on the Island. I'm also not ashamed to say my $34,000 Z will get out run by a stock $60k+ M3 a modded $50k+ Cayman and a modded $40k+ BMW that looks like a clown car... Just saying. __________________ 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. ???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)

04-17-2012, 03:17 PM	#41 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 20	Now I shouldn't say this but...when we ran at the "track" when fully modded I feared no m6 e92 m3. The Z has a great power to weight ratio. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

04-17-2012, 03:46 PM	#43 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 20	Long tube headers were a big factor, they really wake the car up. Its not for everyone, only the guys who like a louder car and don't mind the VQ hiss. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

04-17-2012, 03:50 PM	#44 (permalink)
lemon-fresh Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Calgary Age: 40 Posts: 471 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 13	Interesting, good to know. Even at ~315whp I'd say the Z puts up some decent competition against stock e92's.

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