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johnny_domino 04-14-2012 06:53 PM

Too Much Wheel Spin???
 
Okay, so I have an 09 with the Sport Package in a 6MT. I have had a lot of sports cars, all in a MT, along with a 03 350z before this one. I also have 19" Bridgestone RE090s on the stock Rays 19".

It seems like in this Z i get wheel spin way too much. Even on a warm dry day at a stop light going straight... i will get some spin. I have about 70% tread left on the tires too. I dont lead foot at stoplights either. Even on a gentle engagement it will do it sometimes.

Does anyone else's Z have this? My 350z had no problems like this what so ever. I am going to get springs and spacers soon, then get another alignment, hopefully it will alieveate some of this.

spearfish25 04-14-2012 06:59 PM

Too much wheelspin is a pretty subjective thing. It's like a Z06 owner complaining of wheel spin when they stomp the throttle in 2nd gear. Yes, at some point you'll break traction. Perhaps the road surface you're on is dusting, gritty, etc. Perhaps your tires aren't truly warmed up. Perhaps you're launching at too high an RPM. The bottom line is you don't get wheel spin in the Z or any car if you use the 'right' amount of throttle for a given situation and road surface. I'd absolutely put money on the fact that springs, spacers, and an alignment aren't going to change a thing.

RonRizz 04-14-2012 07:45 PM

:iagree:

370ZilverZ 04-14-2012 08:26 PM

I don't experience those issue and must agree with the other posts above that spacers and springs are not goint to help any either. Perhaps it's the way you are engaging your clutch. Too many variables to really help without being there.

SPOHN 04-14-2012 08:39 PM

The things I'm starting to see on this site lately makes me want to..........

LakeShow 04-14-2012 09:07 PM

It appears you have way too much VTECH kicking in.

SPOHN 04-14-2012 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LakeShow (Post 1663506)
It appears you have way too much VTECH kicking in.

:bowrofl:

Chan Chee Hoe 04-15-2012 12:51 AM

With the V.D.C. on,there will have no wheel spins .

370zproject 04-15-2012 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Chan Chee Hoe (Post 1663858)
With the V.D.C. on,there will have no wheel spins .

:iagree:

sofaonasock 04-15-2012 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by johnny_domino (Post 1663243)
Okay, so I have an 09 with the Sport Package in a 6MT. I have had a lot of sports cars, all in a MT, along with a 03 350z before this one. I also have 19" Bridgestone RE090s on the stock Rays 19".

It seems like in this Z i get wheel spin way too much. Even on a warm dry day at a stop light going straight... i will get some spin. I have about 70% tread left on the tires too. I dont lead foot at stoplights either. Even on a gentle engagement it will do it sometimes.

Does anyone else's Z have this? My 350z had no problems like this what so ever. I am going to get springs and spacers soon, then get another alignment, hopefully it will alieveate some of this.

What are "Bridgestone RE090s"?

delusional 04-15-2012 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by LakeShow (Post 1663506)
It appears you have way too much VTECH kicking in.

:icon18:
http://vt.vtp-media.com/ecp/document.../6321-3_lg.jpg

Vbp6US 04-15-2012 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by delusional (Post 1663913)

Haha...he meant that. :tup:

johnny_domino 04-15-2012 08:57 AM

I knew id get flammed for this. thanks...

Anyway like i am not saying that its crazy wheel spin and doing burnouts every time i stop, its just enough to kick on VDC, I have engaged the clutch in normal driving the same as way as I used to in my previous cars, all RWD sports cars (Mustang Cobra, 350z, M3 e46) and never had the grip issues. And if its not an alignment issue i am going to assume that this is one of those annoying problems that i am going to have to learn to deal with.

Also, another thing that pisses me off with this car, is the shitty Bose stereo system and climate controls. The climate knobs and volume/tune knobs often do not respond in the direction i spin them. I will turn the volume up, and sometimes it will go down instead. This Bose system has to go...

johnny_domino 04-15-2012 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sofaonasock (Post 1663908)
What are "Bridgestone RE090s"?

I meant RE760s. I was probably thinking of the tire model on my old Z...

mannyz 04-15-2012 10:24 AM

IMO Johnny, is seem you just don't like the car. I got the same year car, same stock tires, same wheels and I NEVER experience "too much wheel spin" unless I want to.

You started the thread with "too much wheel spin" then you use the phrase "i get wheel spin way too much", your statement says that even "gentle engagement" you get wheel spin, then you tried to fix it by saying "i am not saying that its crazy wheel spin" Well then what is it?

By saying that you drove so many other RWD cars and tell us that the 370 has such a bad grip and suggesting that by adding springs, spacers and alignment you think it will fix the problem, then is hard for me to believe you have that much experience on RWD. I will be sarcastic by telling you that I guess the Z has much power than you can handle compared to the others vehicles you drove then, sorry.

That's why you got flamed because your statement doesn't match. We are here to help you on any problem your car may have or to answer any question cause everyone here has different experience.

Now if you are been completely serious about this then is either the road where you are driving or your tires are more than 70% worn, or you are always driving with the VDC off (even that I turn it off and never had that issue either), or maybe your TLC is defective or your concept of been gentle is not the same as ours.

CC_370z 04-15-2012 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 1663251)
Too much wheelspin is a pretty subjective thing. It's like a Z06 owner complaining of wheel spin when they stomp the throttle in 2nd gear. Yes, at some point you'll break traction. Perhaps the road surface you're on is dusting, gritty, etc. Perhaps your tires aren't truly warmed up. Perhaps you're launching at too high an RPM. The bottom line is you don't get wheel spin in the Z or any car if you use the 'right' amount of throttle for a given situation and road surface. I'd absolutely put money on the fact that springs, spacers, and an alignment aren't going to change a thing.

:iagree: After making a move to Corvette LS3, I changed my driving habits... With competitive driving mode on or even traction control ON, If I stomp on the pedal, wheels will spin, even when shifting gear with higher RPM. Now I see why many people will instantly say that corvette makes you a poor driver.

That being said, I agreed with other poster about OEM tires are junk and not provide enough grip.. this is specially true with OEM Good year F1 GS2 supercar runflat tires on Corvette. :ugh2:

280z/300zx 04-15-2012 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnny_domino (Post 1663243)
Okay, so I have an 09 with the Sport Package in a 6MT. I have had a lot of sports cars, all in a MT, along with a 03 350z before this one. I also have 19" Bridgestone RE090s on the stock Rays 19".

It seems like in this Z i get wheel spin way too much. Even on a warm dry day at a stop light going straight... i will get some spin. I have about 70% tread left on the tires too. I dont lead foot at stoplights either. Even on a gentle engagement it will do it sometimes.

Does anyone else's Z have this? My 350z had no problems like this what so ever. I am going to get springs and spacers soon, then get another alignment, hopefully it will alieveate some of this.


While during normal driving I don't get any wheel spin, I will say that with any kind of spirited driving VDC is always kicking in. I've driven lots of high performance cars and the 370z is one of the worst when it comes to traction. I find it amazing that with it's power level I can still spin 3rd while already rolling if I put my foot into. I mean a lot of it has to do with the crappy roads here and the fact that they are always covered in dust being that I'm in the desert. But still, other cars I've owned or driven with more power don't have the same traction issues my 370z does.

Used to have an 09 touring sport and now have a 2010 NISMO. Both were the same with poor traction. I'm hoping some new tires will help with this issue when it's time for replacement but I'm not sure.

kcquinn49 04-15-2012 12:08 PM

Wheel spin is no problem. I turn off the traction control every time I start the car. I manually shift my AT all the time. When turning corners I always punch it and the rear end breaks loose when going from 1st to 2nd, and I get a little sideways action. No problem. I like it. It keeps the smile on my face.

Spikuh 04-15-2012 03:17 PM

It sounds like you need more practice driving this car to adjust your driving style to it.

It doesn't matter how many other manual cars you have driven, each one has its own personality and you have to adjust to it.

Bucketlist2012 04-15-2012 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kcquinn49 (Post 1664376)
Wheel spin is no problem. I turn off the traction control every time I start the car. I manually shift my AT all the time. When turning corners I always punch it and the rear end breaks loose when going from 1st to 2nd, and I get a little sideways action. No problem. I like it. It keeps the smile on my face.

:tup::driving:

EazyD 04-15-2012 04:12 PM

Too much gas.

sonic370 04-15-2012 07:13 PM

You weren't flamed here you caught most of the guys in a good mood.
consider yourself lucky.....

go ask that same question over on the 350 board to see what flaming is
those guys make it into a art form :stirthepot:

MacLean 04-15-2012 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcquinn49 (Post 1664376)
Wheel spin is no problem. I turn off the traction control every time I start the car. I manually shift my AT all the time. When turning corners I always punch it and the rear end breaks loose when going from 1st to 2nd, and I get a little sideways action. No problem. I like it. It keeps the smile on my face.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucketlist2012 (Post 1664750)
:tup::driving:

+1...... I have noticed sometimes when I'm at a light & I am about to get on a toll & the road dips a little bit & I shift gears the traction control comes on my G35 (6MT)...... This was several years ago by the way. I will bet it is the roads being uneven a bit, or just particles on the road. Maybe you need to air up your tires more......

gbrettin 04-15-2012 10:21 PM

I would suggest learning a bit more throttle control and get a better relationship with your car.

... Or get a divorce and pick up the 5.0.

LakeShow 04-15-2012 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gbrettin (Post 1665648)
I would suggest learning a bit more throttle control and get a better relationship with your car.

Do this..


Quote:

Originally Posted by gbrettin (Post 1665648)
Or get a divorce and pick up the 5.0.

Not this..

chrischhorn 04-15-2012 10:56 PM

my car is a peg leg with stock 18's and i have no wheel spin issues daily driving much less I can even launch the sucker pretty damn hard at around 4k rpms with feathering the clutch and have very little wheels spin. even had a 2.0 60' time at the track which isnt bad at all for 18's with advans.

MacLean 04-15-2012 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 1665733)
my car is a peg leg with stock 18's and i have no wheel spin issues daily driving much less I can even launch the sucker pretty damn hard at around 4k rpms with feathering the clutch and have very little wheels spin. even had a 2.0 60' time at the track which isnt bad at all for 18's with advans.

It's the driver & those Advans what makes it happen...... :tiphat:

johnny_domino 04-16-2012 05:59 PM

I could be a horrible driver who knows... or maybe its the tires, or maybe its the traction control I was so used to in my older cars, but not this one. I still love the car, its my second Z after having German and American sports cars, so I will always be a Z driver. I just wanted to get a feel for some outside perspective as I really don't have any friends who are into cars.

So if it was a dumb question, I didn't mean to insult anyone's intelligence on this forum. No one here is dumb, after all, the 370z is IMO a "smart person's car." It has sophistication, technology and style. If it was a car for an idiot, we would all be on some Camaro or Challenger forum talking about how fast we can drive in a straight line.

Thanks for the good, bad and sarcastic feedback from everyone.

MVPTonyD 04-17-2012 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LakeShow (Post 1663506)
It appears you have way too much VTECH kicking in.

lol thats a good one.

mhcoss 04-17-2012 10:55 AM

since when is having enough power to break your tires loose been a problem?

HDyoyo 04-17-2012 11:29 AM

this was a fun thread to read lol...:tup:

Bucketlist2012 04-17-2012 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HDyoyo (Post 1668930)
this was a fun thread to read lol...:tup:

Just the title cracks me up...I use the pedal on the right to control my wheel spin..:driving:

But I grew up in the days of rotary phones, square bias ply Tires, and no traction control...:eek:

So my Traction control is my Right foot...Haze the clutch a little at launch and feather the power until you can floor it...:tup:

Dark Sarcasm 04-17-2012 06:09 PM

too much wheel spin? NEVER!!!!!!

chrischhorn 04-17-2012 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgmg21 (Post 1665769)
It's the driver & those Advans what makes it happen...... :tiphat:

Ill take that as a compliment! :happydance:

MacLean 04-18-2012 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 1670416)
Ill take that as a compliment! :happydance:

:tup:


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