What did you do with your Z today III

ZMan8 · 04-26-2012, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

hahaha! i was going to post that but then it would be too obvious which 2 were wrong.

lol

yah, imho our Z's for front should be running ET30 and higher but due to most vendors wanting to sell as well to the G35/350Z/Genesis (?) fanclub + bbk clearance, they always source the agressive sizes...

I don't mind ET30+ if the wheel is wider. That way I would be using more of the useable space within the wheel well. I think in the rear the Time attack wheels are 12" ET40

m4a1mustang · 04-26-2012, 12:04 PM

Understeer is a PITA but it saves most inexperienced drivers.

kenchan · 04-26-2012, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

I don't mind ET30+ if the wheel is wider. That way I would be using more of the useable space within the wheel well. I think in the rear the Time attack wheels are 12" ET40

wow, ET40 for rear...damn.. i completely agree about filling up the wheel wells.

unless you're one of those hellaflushatoilet guy you want the wheels and tire tucked in a tad to minimize drag.

kenchan · 04-26-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Understeer is a PITA but it saves most inexperienced drivers.

i completely removed it out of my G's setup. i drive VCD off in the snow.

car doesn't oversteer either unless i tell her to.. very neutral. i want to do the same on the Z. she understeers a little bit when i push.

Alchemy · 04-26-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KingZee

how hard? car still ok?

Car ok, just took a turn and felt mega understeer. Pretty much the first time I encountered understeer like that in my Z

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Originally Posted by kenchan

morning, mr.alchemy!

yah, especially running koni's you will. this is why i want to plant the car first, before stiffening things up.

Hey Ken

Yes, I agree. Next set of tires I order will be 265 up front for sure.

kenchan · 04-26-2012, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy

Car ok, just took a turn and felt mega understeer. Pretty much the first time I encountered understeer like that in my Z

Hey Ken

Yes, I agree. Next set of tires I order will be 265 up front for sure.

265 should improve quite a bit.

good to hear you didnt hit anything.

ZMan8 · 04-26-2012, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Understeer is a PITA but it saves most inexperienced drivers.

well I consider myself "inexperienced" (no track time, first RWD car)

Quote:

i completely removed it out of my G's setup. i drive VCD off in the snow. car doesn't oversteer either unless i tell her to.. very neutral. i want to do the same on the Z. she understeers a little bit when i push.

m4a1mustang · 04-26-2012, 12:10 PM

A lot of it is preference, too. Some prefer understeer to oversteer. Generally the idea is to get the car as close to neutral as you can and adjust it from there. I prefer a neutral car with a bias towards oversteer, which is where I am now with the 5.0.

My S2000 is a little like that, too. When I drive it I am turning off of the outside rear wheel.

ZMan8 · 04-26-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

wow, ET40 for rear...damn.. i completely agree about filling up the wheel wells.

unless you're one of those hellaflushatoilet guy you want the wheels and tire tucked in a tad to minimize drag.

lol i'm not into hellaflush. I agree regarding drag.

kenchan · 04-26-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

well I consider myself "inexperienced" (no track time, first RWD car)

i dont track my car but i do know my limits.

it's good to check out your setup in the rain. much less speed needed to find out wat your car is like.

most crashes happen when things are loose on the road...like unexpected puddles, gravel, sand, any debris. driving in downpour will net you a lot of experience.

kenchan · 04-26-2012, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

lol i'm not into hellaflush. I agree regarding drag.

hahha, yah, im not either. i break the j-arse stereotype. im in for function and clean looks.

i like my car to perform.

Alchemy · 04-26-2012, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

265 should improve quite a bit.

good to hear you didnt hit anything.

Lol, the understeer wasnt that bad. Yeah I really regret not going 265 to begin with. Im not sure what I was thinking.

ZMan8 · 04-26-2012, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

i dont track my car but i do know my limits.

it's good to check out your setup in the rain. much less speed needed to find out wat your car is like.

most crashes happen when things are loose on the road...like unexpected puddles, gravel, sand, any debris. driving in downpour will net you a lot of experience.

I dont drive the Z in the rain anymore, but when I first got it it was my only vehicle so I drove in anything chicago weather gave me. It did pretty well in downpour rain considering the facts (young male + rwd sports car + heavy rain + low visibility + lots of cars =

lol).

kenchan · 04-26-2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy

Lol, the understeer wasnt that bad. Yeah I really regret not going 265 to begin with. Im not sure what I was thinking.

hahaha, i c.

until you stiffen things up, 245 is fine.

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

I dont drive the Z in the rain anymore, but when I first got it it was my only vehicle so I drove in anything chicago weather gave me. It did pretty well in downpour rain considering the facts (young male + rwd sports car + heavy rain + low visibility + lots of cars =

lol).

whenever i do new setups i always drive my car in the rain...ideally downpours..even though i hate washing and detailing her.

i do the usual... fast(er) take off, hard acceleration while turning, off-apex throttle up, etc. anything that would offset the balance and toss around cog.

ZMan8 · 04-26-2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

hahha, yah, im not either. i break the j-arse stereotype. im in for function and clean looks.

i like my car to perform.

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Understeer is a PITA but it saves most inexperienced drivers. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

04-26-2012, 12:10 PM	#2093 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	A lot of it is preference, too. Some prefer understeer to oversteer. Generally the idea is to get the car as close to neutral as you can and adjust it from there. I prefer a neutral car with a bias towards oversteer, which is where I am now with the 5.0. My S2000 is a little like that, too. When I drive it I am turning off of the outside rear wheel. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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