Nissan Consumer Affairs Oil Cooler Response

spearfish25 · 06-22-2010, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonic370

Has anyone found it highly amusing that nissan included a oil temp gage on the 370. think they knew something already. i'm no racer don't claim to be. I'd
rather have a oil pressure gage no way to tell what the pressure is which i thought was very important to know.

Actually, Nissan is probably wishing they never put an oil temp gauge in the car at all. Most people complaining of oil temp issues have never even gone into limp mode.

rmorrow · 06-22-2010, 08:14 PM

Folks,
I was really trying to post the common law remedies for defective products, warranty claims, and products liability. We all have different opinions on what constitutes "enjoyment" through the ownership of our 370Z's. I have no intention of putting my car on any track, but I do not begrudge anyone who feels differently. I will be the first in line to tackle Nissan...and I will...if my Z overheats in normal driving conditions, or even if I choose to get a bit more aggressive on the street or the highway. When I say aggressive, to me this means revving the engine higher than normal when shifting for a reasonable period of time or letting it loose on a wide open roadway, or carving up some curvy back roads. I will not be engine braking at high speeds on track corners, or switching the VDC off to burn some rubber off of some really expensive tires. Start posting if you have higher than normal oil temps with reasonable driving, and lets see how many folks have the engine temp issues. If you overheat at the track, just put on an oil cooler and then fight it out with Nissan if they try to "dog" you on a warranty issue. If it overheats because you push it a bit harder than most cars, then Nissan has a problem under WARRANTY OF FITNESS. A sports car with 330+ horsepower, heavy duty brakes, and beefed up suspension is an "implied warranty" that the car is intended (and fit) to be operated more aggressively than your routine passenger car or truck. Nissan had better pay attention to this.

rmorrow · 06-22-2010, 08:23 PM

Sonic370,
They should have put an oil pressure gauge in place of the digital clock, and put the digital clock somewhere else.

Boosted Josh · 06-23-2010, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25

Actually, Nissan is probably wishing they never put an oil temp gauge in the car at all. Most people complaining of oil temp issues have never even gone into limp mode.

However I was seeing 240+ during normal street driving and that is too hot even in the middle of the summer.

I did a oil cooler and I'm seeing about 200 during normal driving and 220 during spirited driving.

All of the others cars that I've had that had oil temp gauges never got as hot as this car. This includes some supercharged and turbo charged cars too.

spearfish25 · 06-23-2010, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Josh

However I was seeing 240+ during normal street driving and that is too hot even in the middle of the summer.

I did a oil cooler and I'm seeing about 200 during normal driving and 220 during spirited driving.

All of the others cars that I've had that had oil temp gauges never got as hot as this car. This includes some supercharged and turbo charged cars too.

I'm in total agreement. That's why I have an oil cooler sitting on the floor behind me, ready for install.

Mozen · 06-24-2010, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Elia Cid

"For now I will reframe from going any further with this. I will be driving up to Lockport, New York with my new 370Z, which is a 5 hour, 600 mile drive from my home.

I drive about 3 times a year from Ft. Riley Kansas down to Houston Texas, and then allllll the way back up. Takes about 10-11 hours(700+ miles i cant remember without lookin it up) i do it with 2-3 stops along the way and have no issues with the car overheating. Its only serious track stuff you've got to worry about.

Hell ive done a couple AutoX events up in Kansas and not had any issues even after doing multiple runs of the courses back to back.

I have yet to take it to an actual track tho and run the crap out of her.

WarmAndSCSI · 06-24-2010, 02:51 AM

I'm still concerned with all this. As far as I can tell, my dealership is rather mod-friendly, but if Nissan USA still shoots down the warranty claim at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. I went with my wife up one of the canyon roads the other day - she was driving, at the speed limit (40) - and the oil temp reached well into the 230-240 range. Ambient temperature was in the 50's.

That worries me, because if I were to drive the Z on that same stretch - spiritedly, like I do with my Evo - then it surely would reach dangerous oil temp levels. And that would be averaging 50-60 mph uphill in the same temperatures - hardly "racing" by any standards. I'm interested to see how the car does on its first Interstate road trip - we have a lot of mountain passes here. Should be interesting. If at that point the oil temperature is nearing 260 degrees, I'm going to raise a major stink with my dealership to see if they can do anything for my particular case.

We don't really plan to track this car (maybe a few AutoX events), but the roads here really put some stress on any engine when they are driven even semi-aggressively. I think in my case, an oil cooler is needed to keep engine longevity up. We don't plan to sell this thing any time soon. It will likely retire as a dedicated track car - and it would be nice to have an intact block to build up at that point.

autopc25 · 06-24-2010, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmorrow

Folks,
I was really trying to post the common law remedies for defective products, warranty claims, and products liability. We all have different opinions on what constitutes "enjoyment" through the ownership of our 370Z's. I have no intention of putting my car on any track, but I do not begrudge anyone who feels differently. I will be the first in line to tackle Nissan...and I will...if my Z overheats in normal driving conditions, or even if I choose to get a bit more aggressive on the street or the highway. When I say aggressive, to me this means revving the engine higher than normal when shifting for a reasonable period of time or letting it loose on a wide open roadway, or carving up some curvy back roads. I will not be engine braking at high speeds on track corners, or switching the VDC off to burn some rubber off of some really expensive tires. Start posting if you have higher than normal oil temps with reasonable driving, and lets see how many folks have the engine temp issues. If you overheat at the track, just put on an oil cooler and then fight it out with Nissan if they try to "dog" you on a warranty issue. If it overheats because you push it a bit harder than most cars, then Nissan has a problem under WARRANTY OF FITNESS. A sports car with 330+ horsepower, heavy duty brakes, and beefed up suspension is an "implied warranty" that the car is intended (and fit) to be operated more aggressively than your routine passenger car or truck. Nissan had better pay attention to this.

Interesting.
The brake issue is also a problem.

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06-22-2010, 08:14 PM	#152 (permalink)
rmorrow Base Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Houston Posts: 79 Drives: 2010 370z Sports MT Rep Power: 15	Folks, I was really trying to post the common law remedies for defective products, warranty claims, and products liability. We all have different opinions on what constitutes "enjoyment" through the ownership of our 370Z's. I have no intention of putting my car on any track, but I do not begrudge anyone who feels differently. I will be the first in line to tackle Nissan...and I will...if my Z overheats in normal driving conditions, or even if I choose to get a bit more aggressive on the street or the highway. When I say aggressive, to me this means revving the engine higher than normal when shifting for a reasonable period of time or letting it loose on a wide open roadway, or carving up some curvy back roads. I will not be engine braking at high speeds on track corners, or switching the VDC off to burn some rubber off of some really expensive tires. Start posting if you have higher than normal oil temps with reasonable driving, and lets see how many folks have the engine temp issues. If you overheat at the track, just put on an oil cooler and then fight it out with Nissan if they try to "dog" you on a warranty issue. If it overheats because you push it a bit harder than most cars, then Nissan has a problem under WARRANTY OF FITNESS. A sports car with 330+ horsepower, heavy duty brakes, and beefed up suspension is an "implied warranty" that the car is intended (and fit) to be operated more aggressively than your routine passenger car or truck. Nissan had better pay attention to this.

06-22-2010, 08:23 PM	#153 (permalink)
rmorrow Base Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Houston Posts: 79 Drives: 2010 370z Sports MT Rep Power: 15	Sonic370, They should have put an oil pressure gauge in place of the digital clock, and put the digital clock somewhere else.

06-24-2010, 02:51 AM	#157 (permalink)
WarmAndSCSI A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 1,671 Drives: '08 Evo X \| '10 370Z Rep Power: 18	I'm still concerned with all this. As far as I can tell, my dealership is rather mod-friendly, but if Nissan USA still shoots down the warranty claim at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. I went with my wife up one of the canyon roads the other day - she was driving, at the speed limit (40) - and the oil temp reached well into the 230-240 range. Ambient temperature was in the 50's. That worries me, because if I were to drive the Z on that same stretch - spiritedly, like I do with my Evo - then it surely would reach dangerous oil temp levels. And that would be averaging 50-60 mph uphill in the same temperatures - hardly "racing" by any standards. I'm interested to see how the car does on its first Interstate road trip - we have a lot of mountain passes here. Should be interesting. If at that point the oil temperature is nearing 260 degrees, I'm going to raise a major stink with my dealership to see if they can do anything for my particular case. We don't really plan to track this car (maybe a few AutoX events), but the roads here really put some stress on any engine when they are driven even semi-aggressively. I think in my case, an oil cooler is needed to keep engine longevity up. We don't plan to sell this thing any time soon. It will likely retire as a dedicated track car - and it would be nice to have an intact block to build up at that point.