Nissan Consumer Affairs Oil Cooler Response

Cmike2780 · 06-22-2010, 09:54 AM

I think the warranty should be an option from the start. Maybe a bracketed system where you choose how much of a warranty you want. This would drop the sticker price for those who intend to mod their cars from the get go and would void the warranty anyways and make Nissan happy in getting more sales and fewer warranty disputes. In any case, if Nissan has their name stamped on the part, it should be covered. I've hit limp-mode once driving in heavy stop & go traffic on a hot day. Felt like the car was sick. Scared the crap out of me, especially since I didn't know this issue existed until doing some research afterwards. I had an RX-8 before this so I had to change my shifting habits bit. I was use to living in the high rpm range on the RX-8. No problems since.

Elia Cid · 06-22-2010, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Your paranoia and gross misstatement of facts will likely prevent you from ever enjoying this car...... Good luck ..

"For now I will reframe from going any further with this. I will be driving up to Lockport, New York with my new 370Z, which is a 5 hour, 600 mile drive from my home. I previously made this ride with an Infiniti G350 xS, sedan without any heating issues. I will not exceed the posted speed limits nor push the car hard!
I am hoping I have no issues since I truly feel Nissan does offers a great product at a good value. I would be greatly disappointed if the car doesn't perform to its expectations.

That being said, thanks for reading my rant. It is only out of concern since I do enjoy driving my 370Z car!
If I should have any issues on my trip , I will post exactly what happens and take appropriate actions to get the matter resolved!"

This is my second Z car (08, 350Z Touring ) if it does display a heating issue it I'll be my last!

Thanks,

Alex

6MT · 06-22-2010, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack

Your paranoia and gross misstatement of facts will likely prevent you from ever enjoying this car...... Good luck ..

speedoflife · 06-22-2010, 11:20 AM

If the car's under warranty, screw it. Whenever I get a new laptop, the first thing I do is let it run at 100% CPU usage for about 10 minutes. If it overheats and dies, then that is a manufacturing defect and the computer will be replaced under warranty. Not trying to insight a riot or convince anyone to tear their car up, but if you think that you can kill the engine due to high oil temps, try. Enjoy the car and stop being so worried about it.

Thistime · 06-22-2010, 11:30 AM

What the hell is Nissan thinking?!!

FuszNissan · 06-22-2010, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elia Cid

"For now I will reframe from going any further with this. I will be driving up to Lockport, New York with my new 370Z, which is a 5 hour, 600 mile drive from my home. I previously made this ride with an Infiniti G350 xS, sedan without any heating issues. I will not exceed the posted speed limits nor push the car hard!
I am hoping I have no issues since I truly feel Nissan does offers a great product at a good value. I would be greatly disappointed if the car doesn't perform to its expectations.

That being said, thanks for reading my rant. It is only out of concern since I do enjoy driving my 370Z car!
If I should have any issues on my trip , I will post exactly what happens and take appropriate actions to get the matter resolved!"

This is my second Z car (08, 350Z Touring ) if it does display a heating issue it I'll be my last!

Thanks,

Alex

5 hour ride on the highway, and you had temp issues? I am only asking because you should be running cooler temps if you are running 6 hours on the highway. I drove down to NC, 9 hour ride, and my temps were 80 degrees celsius, with an oil cooler, I usually average 100-105 C. Pushing it on a hard course I see 110-115. So I am not sure if you are having a separate issue.

Cmike2780 · 06-22-2010, 12:05 PM

^^^ I don't think its a coolant temp issue if I'm not mistaken. It's the engine oil temp that get pretty hot. Normal driving temp is around 220 for oil, anything beyond 260 will kick it into limp mode. You won't be able to shift past 3500 rpm.

FuszNissan · 06-22-2010, 12:13 PM

I know, I am curious to as he stats 5 hour ride and he is over heating. If you are driving on the highway your will run cooler temps not higher temps. Unless he is in bumper to bumper traffic for 5 hours. Which would suck!

daisuke149 · 06-22-2010, 02:48 PM

well. Just as a reference. my car was at 250 while driving on I-85 (in atlanta). The highest ive seen it when just driving, even compared to in city driving. And this was a month ago when it wasnt as hot as it is now. Even when the guys in Atlanta went up to the mountains for a lil bit more spirited driving, I think the max I saw was 250. So something was up with that highway driving.

Elia Cid · 06-22-2010, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuszNissan

I know, I am curious to as he stats 5 hour ride and he is over heating. If you are driving on the highway your will run cooler temps not higher temps. Unless he is in bumper to bumper traffic for 5 hours. Which would suck!

I have not taken the 5 to 6 hr ride yet , not for a few weeks, but i will be monitoring the heat very carefully along the way.

I'm really hoping there are no heating issues on the trip , looking forward to enjoying the car and keeping it a while!

Stay tuned.

Modshack · 06-22-2010, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elia Cid

I'm really hoping there are no heating issues on the trip

There won't be.

shadow2k · 06-22-2010, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisuke149

well. Just as a reference. my car was at 250 while driving on I-85 (in atlanta). The highest ive seen it when just driving, even compared to in city driving. And this was a month ago when it wasnt as hot as it is now. Even when the guys in Atlanta went up to the mountains for a lil bit more spirited driving, I think the max I saw was 250. So something was up with that highway driving.

Shift into 6th gear next time!

I really don't understand how people are even getting over 230. Its about 100 degrees here in KC, I've had my car for a year. Not once have I ever gone over 230, it is normally 225 max, and generally about 210.

If you are that concerned about it, simply watch your temps. If the temp has gotten to a range that you are not comfortable with, back off the rpm's. I'd think this would be common sense, but maybe not...

If you have not checked your coolant level lately, go do it right now. I lost quite a bit with no leaks present over the first few months. Less coolant, especially a significant amount, will result in your oil running hotter in this car.

Turn on your A/C if you want lower temps. I know it has been mentioned in other threads, and I've personally watched the difference between on/off. My oil is typically 5-10 degrees cooler with the A/C on the lowest setting.

And finally, if you still don't like any of these options, or it is causing you too much stress...sell the car. Pretty sure most other cars don't even have oil temp gauges. Ignorance is bliss.

daisuke149 · 06-22-2010, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadow2k

Shift into 6th gear next time!

I really don't understand how people are even getting over 230. Its about 100 degrees here in KC, I've had my car for a year. Not once have I ever gone over 230, it is normally 225 max, and generally about 210.

If you are that concerned about it, simply watch your temps. If the temp has gotten to a range that you are not comfortable with, back off the rpm's. I'd think this would be common sense, but maybe not...

If you have not checked your coolant level lately, go do it right now. I lost quite a bit with no leaks present over the first few months. Less coolant, especially a significant amount, will result in your oil running hotter in this car.

Turn on your A/C if you want lower temps. I know it has been mentioned in other threads, and I've personally watched the difference between on/off. My oil is typically 5-10 degrees cooler with the A/C on the lowest setting.

And finally, if you still don't like any of these options, or it is causing you too much stress...sell the car. Pretty sure most other cars don't even have oil temp gauges. Ignorance is bliss.

thanks for the completely useless answer.

I was simply stating the fact that yes, on the highways temps can go high. There is no stress in my post. If it gets too high, car breaks, nissan will get me a new one. simple.

Thanks for the tip on 6th gear, i guess i shouldnt drive on the highway at 80mph in first gear!

A/C is always on on. Its Atlanta. Humidity is a bitch.

Coolant levels are perfect. I check every week.

Im glad you never had a problem. but some have. Im just adding information to that.

P.S backing off the revs driving at highway speeds means i would have to go 55mph in Atlanta. Which means people are gonna shoot me when they get stuck behind me. But your welcome to come try it.

And lastly. Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean its not possible or that it doesn't happen.

Cmike2780 · 06-22-2010, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadow2k

Shift into 6th gear next time!

I really don't understand how people are even getting over 230. Its about 100 degrees here in KC, I've had my car for a year. Not once have I ever gone over 230, it is normally 225 max, and generally about 210.

If you are that concerned about it, simply watch your temps. If the temp has gotten to a range that you are not comfortable with, back off the rpm's. I'd think this would be common sense, but maybe not...

If you have not checked your coolant level lately, go do it right now. I lost quite a bit with no leaks present over the first few months. Less coolant, especially a significant amount, will result in your oil running hotter in this car.

Turn on your A/C if you want lower temps. I know it has been mentioned in other threads, and I've personally watched the difference between on/off. My oil is typically 5-10 degrees cooler with the A/C on the lowest setting.

And finally, if you still don't like any of these options, or it is causing you too much stress...sell the car. Pretty sure most other cars don't even have oil temp gauges. Ignorance is bliss.

We shouldn't have to make excuses for a sports car period! If this wasn't a common occurrence, they wouldn't have made an oil cooler and this wouldn't be an issue. It's not something to stress over, but it shouldn't be something you should have to think about. This should be a car you can take to the track and drive home in. In daily driving, the chances are rare or non-existant that temps will ever get that hot. But under the right conditions, it can happen and thats the problem. Just my 2 cents.

sonic370 · 06-22-2010, 07:51 PM

Has anyone found it highly amusing that nissan included a oil temp gage on the 370. think they knew something already. i'm no racer don't claim to be. I'd
rather have a oil pressure gage no way to tell what the pressure is which i thought was very important to know.

06-22-2010, 09:54 AM	#136 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	I think the warranty should be an option from the start. Maybe a bracketed system where you choose how much of a warranty you want. This would drop the sticker price for those who intend to mod their cars from the get go and would void the warranty anyways and make Nissan happy in getting more sales and fewer warranty disputes. In any case, if Nissan has their name stamped on the part, it should be covered. I've hit limp-mode once driving in heavy stop & go traffic on a hot day. Felt like the car was sick. Scared the crap out of me, especially since I didn't know this issue existed until doing some research afterwards. I had an RX-8 before this so I had to change my shifting habits bit. I was use to living in the high rpm range on the RX-8. No problems since. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

06-22-2010, 11:30 AM	#140 (permalink)
Thistime Base Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Jersey Posts: 5 Drives: 02 Nissan 350Z CS M5 Rep Power: 15	What the hell is Nissan thinking?!! __________________ Go ahead push my "why?" button. whyagent.com *FYI, I'm helping spread this link around for State Farm

06-22-2010, 12:05 PM	#142 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	^^^ I don't think its a coolant temp issue if I'm not mistaken. It's the engine oil temp that get pretty hot. Normal driving temp is around 220 for oil, anything beyond 260 will kick it into limp mode. You won't be able to shift past 3500 rpm. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

06-22-2010, 12:13 PM	#143 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 542	I know, I am curious to as he stats 5 hour ride and he is over heating. If you are driving on the highway your will run cooler temps not higher temps. Unless he is in bumper to bumper traffic for 5 hours. Which would suck! __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

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speedoflife Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MS/TX Posts: 268 Drives: '06 Pontiac G.P. Rep Power: 16	If the car's under warranty, screw it. Whenever I get a new laptop, the first thing I do is let it run at 100% CPU usage for about 10 minutes. If it overheats and dies, then that is a manufacturing defect and the computer will be replaced under warranty. Not trying to insight a riot or convince anyone to tear their car up, but if you think that you can kill the engine due to high oil temps, try. Enjoy the car and stop being so worried about it.

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daisuke149 My *** is famous! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 4,849 Drives: 2013 Boss 302 PW Rep Power: 31	well. Just as a reference. my car was at 250 while driving on I-85 (in atlanta). The highest ive seen it when just driving, even compared to in city driving. And this was a month ago when it wasnt as hot as it is now. Even when the guys in Atlanta went up to the mountains for a lil bit more spirited driving, I think the max I saw was 250. So something was up with that highway driving.

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sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 18	Has anyone found it highly amusing that nissan included a oil temp gage on the 370. think they knew something already. i'm no racer don't claim to be. I'd rather have a oil pressure gage no way to tell what the pressure is which i thought was very important to know.