ordered springs and sways today!

Mike · 06-03-2009, 10:02 PM

My car is still 2 weeks out, but Stillen is having a great sale so I got the eibachs and stillens sway bars.

Plan is to roll the car home from the dealership, and I will powdercoat the wheels and calipers and since they will be off, it will be a great time to do the suspension! Can't wait for delivery!!!!!

myfirstz · 06-03-2009, 11:16 PM

Congrats on your Z purchase. Have fun with her!

I too am in the process of buying a Z. Actually, I am buying this Z. Check out the link and tell me what you think of all the upgrades already completed on this ride!

FOR SALE (NJ) 09 370z touring sport already set-up

Mike · 06-04-2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by myfirstz

Congrats on your Z purchase. Have fun with her!

I too am in the process of buying a Z. Actually, I am buying this Z. Check out the link and tell me what you think of all the upgrades already completed on this ride!

FOR SALE (NJ) 09 370z touring sport already set-up

His is an awesome deal. Had it been black, and for sale 2 days earlier, I would have jumped on it.

travisjb · 06-04-2009, 12:24 AM

Congrats, Musashi's car is very well cared for and upgraded from what I can tell... gives you a great starting point !

Modshack · 06-04-2009, 08:51 AM

Good plan Mike!

About to pull the plug on the sways myself... I actually like the spring rate and don't have a burning desire to lower (I never did with the Vette), but a Tad more sway is needed for everything to be happy!

CBRich · 06-04-2009, 09:33 AM

So are you planning on placing the Eibachs over the stock shocks?

jakoye · 06-04-2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike

My car is still 2 weeks out, but Stillen is having a great sale so I got the eibachs and stillens sway bars.

Plan is to roll the car home from the dealership, and I will powdercoat the wheels and calipers and since they will be off, it will be a great time to do the suspension! Can't wait for delivery!!!!!

The Z already seems like a pretty low car. How low will it be once you install the eibachs?

I'm sure it'll look sweet as all hell, but will it mean you'll be scraping speed bumps?

Mike · 06-04-2009, 11:51 AM

I plan on using stock shocks for now. I have on every other car I have lowered with eibachs (which is almost every car I have had, so speed bumps aren't really an issue, just have to know how to deal with them). I am taking delivery on the 16th at the latest right now, so my plan is to have everything done and on the road by the 19th or 20th. There is a local Z/G meet on the 21st that I would like to bring the car to.

ChrisSlicks · 06-04-2009, 11:56 AM

The Eibach springs are progressive, you may actually notice a slightly more forgiving ride despite the shorter travel.

CBRich · 06-04-2009, 01:48 PM

If aftermarket shocks aren't a requirement then these spring may jump towards the top of my list.

Modshack · 06-04-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich

If aftermarket shocks aren't a requirement then these spring may jump towards the top of my list.

They are and they arent. Putting Eibachs on factory fresh shocks is fine for awhile. The problem is, as they lose their damping they can no longer control the springing when it enters the stiffer area. YOu've seen Ricer Honda's bouncing down the road? To stiff a spring mounted over worn out struts.
A stiff spring will wear out a stock shock ( optimum damping control) sooner than factory springing. You have a little cushion with the Eibachs in that the'yre progressive and a bit closer to stock through the initial travel. The ideal situation is to pair a stiffer shock with the ability to handle a stiffer spring. . Pay now or pay later....

ChrisSlicks · 06-04-2009, 02:10 PM

The Eibach's are softer than stock in the initial travel and stiffer at the end of the range. I doubt it is going to have any adverse effect on shock wear. Anyways, plenty of cheap shocks to be had by people that have bought coilovers.

Mike · 06-04-2009, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

YOu've seen Ricer Honda's bouncing down the road? To stiff a spring mounted over worn out struts.

Actually Steve, I think that more often than not its because they went the really cheap route and just cut their stock springs, totally screwing everything up.

Modshack · 06-04-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

Actually Steve, I think that more often than not its because they went the really cheap route and just cut their stock springs, totally screwing everything up.

Same thing kinda....Cut springs get stiffer!

I've put Eibachs over stock shocks twice. Once on a 20K mile 993 Porsche, and once on a 7K mile Miata. Neither of those 2 set-ups came out the way I liked. I should have learned my lesson the first time. Not enough shock control when compressed into the stiff area which is usually when you're tossing the car around and really need the damping. Stock shocks are valved to control the lower rate (stock) springs. I've put them over Bilsteins many a time with very good results. I am extrememly sensitive to suspension and shock control though. YMMV, just my experience talking FWIW...

Mike · 06-04-2009, 07:01 PM

and other than the 350Z that had tokico 5 ways and the C6, I've never kept a car more than a year and a half, so I can't speak for longevity.

06-03-2009, 10:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2186	ordered springs and sways today! My car is still 2 weeks out, but Stillen is having a great sale so I got the eibachs and stillens sway bars. Plan is to roll the car home from the dealership, and I will powdercoat the wheels and calipers and since they will be off, it will be a great time to do the suspension! Can't wait for delivery!!!!!

06-04-2009, 12:24 AM	#4 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 189	Congrats, Musashi's car is very well cared for and upgraded from what I can tell... gives you a great starting point ! __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

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Modshack A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Greenville NC Posts: 2,883 Drives: 370Z Sport Rep Power: 977	Good plan Mike! About to pull the plug on the sways myself... I actually like the spring rate and don't have a burning desire to lower (I never did with the Vette), but a Tad more sway is needed for everything to be happy! __________________ Steal my car! (SOLD)...Now Porsche Cayman S Oil Cooler DIY: Here!

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06-03-2009, 11:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
myfirstz Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: AL Posts: 88 Drives: Smooth & Easy Rep Power: 428	Congrats on your Z purchase. Have fun with her! I too am in the process of buying a Z. Actually, I am buying this Z. Check out the link and tell me what you think of all the upgrades already completed on this ride! FOR SALE (NJ) 09 370z touring sport already set-up

06-04-2009, 09:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 545	So are you planning on placing the Eibachs over the stock shocks?

06-04-2009, 11:51 AM	#8 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2186	I plan on using stock shocks for now. I have on every other car I have lowered with eibachs (which is almost every car I have had, so speed bumps aren't really an issue, just have to know how to deal with them). I am taking delivery on the 16th at the latest right now, so my plan is to have everything done and on the road by the 19th or 20th. There is a local Z/G meet on the 21st that I would like to bring the car to.

06-04-2009, 11:56 AM	#9 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 654	The Eibach springs are progressive, you may actually notice a slightly more forgiving ride despite the shorter travel.

06-04-2009, 01:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 545	If aftermarket shocks aren't a requirement then these spring may jump towards the top of my list.

06-04-2009, 02:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 654	The Eibach's are softer than stock in the initial travel and stiffer at the end of the range. I doubt it is going to have any adverse effect on shock wear. Anyways, plenty of cheap shocks to be had by people that have bought coilovers.

06-04-2009, 07:01 PM	#15 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2186	and other than the 350Z that had tokico 5 ways and the C6, I've never kept a car more than a year and a half, so I can't speak for longevity.