Hybrid z

trainsales · 03-28-2012, 03:52 PM

A 67 hp boost with better mileage can apparently be done in a 370 as well? A lithium battery in the hatch may improve handling too. Only a $6000 premium over msrp.

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TerribleONE · 03-28-2012, 03:57 PM

Thats not a Z....

trainsales · 03-28-2012, 04:46 PM

Similar drive train though; makes me think Nissan can do it.

Spikuh · 03-28-2012, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerribleONE

Thats not a Z....

Could still be done though with a layout like the one in this article. I think this is how the M is setup actually, but only skimmed the article.

Nissan Claims In-House Hybrid Tech 2-3x Better Than Toyota's : TreeHugger

TerribleONE · 03-28-2012, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trainsales

Similar drive train though; makes me think Nissan can do it.

I am not saying it cant be done.. Enough money = unlimited possiblities.

However do you really see a market for a hybrid sports car? I really hope they dont make a hybrid Z...

I can just see it now being at the light or grabbing some food, hey man is that the hybrid one?!?

alcheng · 03-28-2012, 07:12 PM

Hybrid really make a car sound 'soft'

I will suggest they badge it as 370zK, where the 'K' stands for KERS.

Spikuh · 03-28-2012, 09:26 PM

To each their own, but I have never understood why the idea of a performance hybrid is such blasphemy. From where I sit progression is good, and the idea of combining a large engine with an electric motor is the same as having my cake and eating it too.

Consider this, in 2009 the Z was in many ways king of the mountain for its price point. At a rated 332hp combined with 18/26mpg and its handling characteristics, not many cars could really compete. Fast forward to today and the Mustang GT (5.0 model) has more power and comparable gas mileage (it is no slouch in the corners either). It is rated at 420hp and 15/26mpg (manual) or 18/25mpg (auto). Even with full bolt ons and an engine tune, the Z seems to be stuck at around 380-390hp and probably a bit less on the mpg side of things which brings us to the ever important question, how will the Z move forward to stay competitive?

The options boil down to one of three choices:

-More displacement
-Forced Induction
-Hybrid

I know many people would prefer one of the first two and of the two, I personally prefer the second for many reasons, but I think the Hybrid option offers a couple advantages over the other two. I see a proper hybrid Z more than leveling the current playing field and once again pushing other manufacturers to raise their game. One that mergers the 332hp engine with an electric motor rated between 70 and 100 hp. Combine that with an increase of 10% in mpg (putting it at ~20/29mpg which I think is on the drastic low end) and I believe the Z would once again be back on top.

Taking this approach would still leave room for the Z to grow through either NA aftermarket parts (basically what we already have) and going the FI route. The NA route could give you a highly fuel efficient Z with around 450 to 490hp (70 to 100hp electric combine with ~50 to 60hp from NA mods) with the FI route being even higher.

All of this of course is strictly opinion of course.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-29-2012, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerribleONE

I am not saying it cant be done.. Enough money = unlimited possiblities.

However do you really see a market for a hybrid sports car? I really hope they dont make a hybrid Z...

I can just see it now being at the light or grabbing some food, hey man is that the hybrid one?!?

I agree with terrible... but the hybrid Z topic has been beaten to death. This is ridiculous already. Search any thread concerning the Z's future and it ends up being a hybrid debate.

trainsales · 03-30-2012, 03:01 PM

Just thought that since Nissan is making a hybrid for the first time, and apparently using the same engine, they can easily add the same electric motor to a z and improve hp and especially torque substantially. For only $6000 more, I would consider it. Way less than installing a turbo. And no need to modify the exhaust.

Didn't see other discussions on hybrid Nissans. But then, I didn't look sorry.

Eric · 03-30-2012, 03:38 PM

If Nissan decide to make the 370Z a hybrid then they will have to rebadge it as a 370Zzz.

Boring enough to put you to sleep!

cossie1600 · 03-30-2012, 03:42 PM

The gt3 hybrid is doing great, same with th e new nsx and th e Toyota ts030. You might want to keep up with technology before it passes you.

Spikuh · 03-30-2012, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trainsales

Just thought that since Nissan is making a hybrid for the first time, and apparently using the same engine, they can easily add the same electric motor to a z and improve hp and especially torque substantially. For only $6000 more, I would consider it. Way less than installing a turbo. And no need to modify the exhaust.

Didn't see other discussions on hybrid Nissans. But then, I didn't look sorry.

I wouldn't worry to much about. Those threads barely have stuff that qualifies as a "discussion" much less an honest debate of pros and cons. It usually just nose dives into gems like this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric

If Nissan decide to make the 370Z a hybrid then they will have to rebadge it as a 370Zzz.

Boring enough to put you to sleep!

03-28-2012, 03:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
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Spikuh A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Ark Posts: 2,357 Drives: '09 370z Rep Power: 21	To each their own, but I have never understood why the idea of a performance hybrid is such blasphemy. From where I sit progression is good, and the idea of combining a large engine with an electric motor is the same as having my cake and eating it too. Consider this, in 2009 the Z was in many ways king of the mountain for its price point. At a rated 332hp combined with 18/26mpg and its handling characteristics, not many cars could really compete. Fast forward to today and the Mustang GT (5.0 model) has more power and comparable gas mileage (it is no slouch in the corners either). It is rated at 420hp and 15/26mpg (manual) or 18/25mpg (auto). Even with full bolt ons and an engine tune, the Z seems to be stuck at around 380-390hp and probably a bit less on the mpg side of things which brings us to the ever important question, how will the Z move forward to stay competitive? The options boil down to one of three choices: -More displacement -Forced Induction -Hybrid I know many people would prefer one of the first two and of the two, I personally prefer the second for many reasons, but I think the Hybrid option offers a couple advantages over the other two. I see a proper hybrid Z more than leveling the current playing field and once again pushing other manufacturers to raise their game. One that mergers the 332hp engine with an electric motor rated between 70 and 100 hp. Combine that with an increase of 10% in mpg (putting it at ~20/29mpg which I think is on the drastic low end) and I believe the Z would once again be back on top. Taking this approach would still leave room for the Z to grow through either NA aftermarket parts (basically what we already have) and going the FI route. The NA route could give you a highly fuel efficient Z with around 450 to 490hp (70 to 100hp electric combine with ~50 to 60hp from NA mods) with the FI route being even higher. All of this of course is strictly opinion of course.

03-30-2012, 03:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
trainsales Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Hawaii Posts: 28 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 14	Just thought that since Nissan is making a hybrid for the first time, and apparently using the same engine, they can easily add the same electric motor to a z and improve hp and especially torque substantially. For only $6000 more, I would consider it. Way less than installing a turbo. And no need to modify the exhaust. Didn't see other discussions on hybrid Nissans. But then, I didn't look sorry.

03-30-2012, 03:42 PM	#11 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	The gt3 hybrid is doing great, same with th e new nsx and th e Toyota ts030. You might want to keep up with technology before it passes you.