not really, if you look at the pricing, even on here, your money is going further. look around.

Well you are getting a more rare car at least. Did you also look at the 40th's? They might be worth some coin later on.

actually I have not! have you? do they have any performance or any benefits besides being the 40th?

Not to my knowledge... but I like the gunmetal color with the wheels being matching. I guess you could say that was the benefits were the color is unique.. plus it has red leather seats.

oh ok... so just an education then. That's cool. I'd give you a cookie for all of your supposed accomplishments, but i'm fresh out... being 13 and all

You really don't have much of a clue do you? Gear head for X number of years and still have no idea about the specific car which you are knocking.

Before I had my Z I had a 2007 WRX TR. For what it was, it was a great car. Even stock it was pretty quick. Basic stage 2 bolt ons (exhaust and tune) and the car was running low 13's and put 240whp down on a MUSTANG dyno. Once I got bored with it at that point I ordered a VF39 and friend gave me an STI intercooler. Installed them all on a weekend, had a friend email me a tune (a tune that costs me $75 for the cable, since everything for those cars are open source). And in a few hours improved my cars performance a crap ton.

On that configuration my car went 12.7 with a garbage 1.8 60ft (I really needed to raise the 2 step up to 5500rpm). After that, I got a MBC and used that to control and hold boost MUCH better, but never took it back to the track and decided to get a Z.

You can talk all you want about the wrx, but in my mind sometimes I wish I still had it. All the mods I had into the car was less money than pretty much test pipes and an intake for the Z.

I noticed the whole wrx with bolt ons vs 370z with bolt ons whos faster argument. Let me clear this up for everyone. In the 1/4 mile, the wrx hands down.

A friend of mine has a pro tuned stage 2 2009 wrx making 300 awhp and 330 awtq. I have catback exhaust and k & n filters at the moment.

From a dig, i have no chance really.

From a roll on, about 70 mph, a near stock 370z IS faster, and we have done many runs, on closed tracks and airport runways of course. from 70 mph to 140 mph my near stock 370z pulls a good 2-3 cars on a protuned 300 awhp 2009 wrx.

From a 45 mph roll on, the wrx gets the jump, i catch it by 110 mph.

Anyways, i've driven both, and owned an evo x, the wrx is an awesome car, and definetly better suited for the northern climate than a 370z, a better buy for this area if you dont want to own 2 cars. Nice buy OP, have fun drifting around in the snow! ;)

You really should stop talking down to people and instigating arguments when there are none to be had. Its obvious you love the WRX, but you are on a 370Z forum. Calling the Z a not very fast car is going to net these responses, this thread is about your opinion and people have respected that so why don't you respect theirs.

Here is a link to some wrx dyno charts of what you can expect

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2135280

lol @ ppl going on forum specific cars and boasting about another car.
Just say "bye" and leave :hello:

I say bring on the 300ZX :)

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Hahahahaaa...:rofl2:


Yeah the 300zx is 23 years old and puts down ridiculous track times till this day.

Hey you can mod everything baby. It's TT and therefore it is a supercar, move over brother!

Goldie Hahn was great in her 20s, 50s ahhhh.....

ok, so with all of this 35 years of experience, this is the best you can come up with? 3 pages of Cobb AP OTS maps? ONE of them shows a cobb map vs. a protuned map which for a STAGE 1 was over 321 wtq.

I will say again... get a clue and come back after you have done some real research and know anything about the car.

I'm not talking down to anyone. I even said that I loved my Z, but that I needed something different for my lifestyle. I won't however have someone who claims to have all of these years of experience tell me about the car when he had gotten his numbers from wikapedia... he has ZERO knowledge about the Subaru and likely zero about the Z either... aside from looking it up on wikipedia.

well this thread is going south fast, ibtl

Here is a dyno database chart list... people can browse the owners and what mods they have and how much power they are putting down. People can select the 09 Z as well.

Dyno Database Online


now there are plenty of Z's on here with 310-320 whp and 250-260 wtq, there are none that high there... so with better exhausts and such the number have come up... or it could be the dynos used.

This is why I didn't want this to turn into a this car vs. that car... i'm happy with my choice... I was happy with my choice with the Z... and had we not gotten a house and needed a lower payment... I would have kept it and be perfectly happy. With having only 1 car and living in an area where we see snow sometimes, rain a lot, have 3 pit bulls, 1 Presa Canario that need to go to the vet sometimes... obviously a Z isn't going to cut it.

Funny thing I went to Loews around 8pm and took our old 2005 Nissan Sentra SE beater, ended up parking next to a late model WRX STI with the warrior wing on it .

On the way out, I had to laugh at how much the sentra and the wrx looked like the same type of car.

Seeing how you have a history of 4 door turbo compacts, the 370z was probably the wrong car for you. The wrx is probably a better move for you.

As you get older you probably move on to a European touring car like the Transporter.

As much as I like the 4 door touring cars made for their styling and convenience, the only way I could see myself , owning one is if they came with a hot asian porn star in the trunk, with every new car you bought.

Sports cars like the 370Z are really for a select crowd, and you either love them or hate them, I come from a flat track and sport bike racing background, so a sports car like the Z is perfect for me.

Back about 25 yrs. ago a motorcycle magazine did a test of what would be the perfect practical vehicles a guys garage, and they were a Toyota MR2, Honda Interceptor, 4x4 truck and some type of rear engine home build plane.

I would say its time you move on to the WRX forum, your really getting to the point of bashing members here.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, if your intent with the post is to get endorsement for your purchase, your barking up the wrong tree.

From my experience over the years I have found that its best to buy the highest hp. normally aspirated car in your budget. Extensively modifying or playing with the turbos can result in premature engine or tranny failures. Buying a $30-$40k car and then risking engine failures that may not be covered under the manufactures waranty is not my cup of tea.

As for my experience don't worry, when I need a help with my Hoover Vac or bird crap, dirty mags, then Wally World will have everything I need.

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Congrats on your new car. The WRX is a nice sports sedan (though I would have gotten the STi if I was interested in a Subaru). I waited until I had a house and wife before I got a sports car and modded it. I guess you are doing it all in reverse, eh?

Enjoy the down-hill slide :roflpuke2:

Thanks for the comparision

I had a 05 Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart prior to my Z.

While I had an itch for a new car and the Subaru Imprezza/WRX was on my short list due to cost, I am a Z Fanboy easily...so had to go with my dream car, wouldn't have taken anything less

Definitely whats tempting about the WRX is the ease to increase power and that its already boosted. I totally get what you were trying to say when you were comparing the two.

ibtl! :icon17:

Yeah, you're right.

Always wanted to get a 300zx... I was close a few times, but it never panned out. They look good and still very modern even today. Just an awesome car. To bad that Nissan didn't have the turbo option from the factory with the 370. Would have really been cool even if a lot of us wouldn't have had the money... at least we could have gotten the old stuff from other guys who upgraded theirs :tup:

dude really.. I mean you're welcome not to come into the thread.

It's not really about the power so much, although having a turbo does make it easier and i'm not far from Agile tuning which is pretty much an all Subaru shop which is cool if I wanted to go the full mod route. My point of the whole thread, or what I was TRYING to get across before people turned it into a who's faster war was the pros and cons and that even with the cons, the car is still very nice for me. There are multiple ways you can look at it. I did all the car research for my Mother years ago and she went with an 08 Altima. I was impressed with Nissan's fit and finish... if I wanted the BEST interior I would have gone GTI, but it's just FWD and though that's not bad in the snow.. AWD is just better. If I wanted faster then yeah, I might have gone STI or another Evo... but for 24,5 vs 34 or 36k the STI is really no faster until you're tracking the car. In a straight line the new STI is neck and neck with the WRX and they have run a stock WRX at 12.9 @ 104 mph which isn't bad considering the power output.

Like I said though.. I didn't get the car for that stuff. I got it for all of my daily driving, some fun driving, doing whatever else I need to do with the added room I have. Would I have kept the Z if I wouldn't have been trying to cut down on bills? Sure. Am I crushed that I traded it? Nope. I could have kept it, but having the Subaru allows me to have extra money at the end of the month which is always a plus.

Enjoy your new WRX. My buddy has an 07 that he has dropped some money into over the years. It's pretty quick, reliable, and comfortable -- and it handles well in every type of weather.

You'll get haters, but anyone who knows cars will hear the boxer rumble and smile. :)

Also lol @ the posts saying you're taking a huge downgrade. Anyone who has been behind the wheel of one knows that it can be just as fun, especially in the parts of the country where you get four seasons.

Ignore the idiots telling you to get out, too. Once a Z owner, always a Z owner!

Thanks man... i'm definitely enjoying the car a lot. The boxer tone is certainly one i'm not used to, but it does sound rather awesome.

I don't have any problem with this thread, I have a problem with you making slighting comments towards others for no reason. If they are not knowledgeable, then educate them in a well thought out and nice way.

I approach the way I am approached.

I don't understand why people are bashing the OP. He's just making a comparison thread while GSXR is trash talking the OP's new car. If you don't like the OP's new car then ignore the thread and move on. Why bother talking down other people? :shakes head:

Either way the WRX is nice! And that's the color I originally wanted an STi in.

"waiter, check please...this thread is done" lol seriously this thread needs to be put out of it's misery, now

OP, Thanks for the write up! Both are great cars IMHO. I enjoyed the read.

I went the other way around. I traded in my 2008 STI for the 370z. I miss the AWD of the STI and overall how practical it was. Just recently I had to take a friend to the airport and her two suitcases barely fit. The interior of the 370 is far better than the STI, believe it or not so is the Bose stereo. Interior noise is about the same, my STI was tuned and had an exhaust and intake. On the hwy the STI always felt like it needed another gear even though it was a 6spd. At 80 I found myself wanting to shift, the 370 has a true 6th gear OD.

From a standstill my STI was definately faster but from a 60 mph punch I believe the 370 is faster. If I wanted something that was a monster the STI was the better platform. Guys are getting near 500hp on the stock motor with upgraded turbo/fuel its on a stock clutch and its realiable. Looks wise the 370z to me is slicker and feels higher end than the STI did. Sometimes I miss my STI but then other times I dont. Both are great cars IMO.

I was considering the STI, but after everything that I read when it came to comparing it to the WRX... it's not that much different for just street driving. Obviously if I were to do auto X or something like that the STI would be the obvious choice... i'm happy with the decision I made though and I save well over 100.00 a month on my payment which helps my wife and I to put onto other bills and pay them off quicker. They'll be other cars that come down the pike. Right now i'm perfectly happy though.

yeah the WRX is a great car too. I just happen to get an awesome deal on the STI at the time and when I traded it in for the Z 4 years later they gave me 28500 and I only originally paid 32500 for it new. YOu're goonna love the subie,they hold their value really well and the STI was nothing but realiable to me. YOu made a great choice!

thanks for the info... good to hear from other owners or previous owners.