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didymus 03-23-2012 02:05 PM

How much do you warm up your Z?
 
How much before pushing it? How low do you keep the revs?

kenchan 03-23-2012 02:06 PM

i wait until 180F oil. revs are kept normal under 4K

TerribleONE 03-23-2012 02:23 PM

I will wait till about 160F until I get on it at all. 180 to go above 6k

Davey 03-23-2012 02:25 PM

I usually just bounce it off the rev limiter and dump the clutch in reverse to back out of the garage.

Pelican170 03-23-2012 02:25 PM

Normally i do about 140, so thats my vote but there are times ill give it to when it starts to move...

Pelican170 03-23-2012 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey (Post 1616878)
I usually just bounce it off the rev limiter and dump the clutch in reverse to back out of the garage.

hahah thats one way to warm it up quick! lol

christian370z 03-23-2012 02:39 PM

I wait until 160 degree, which is where most oils start to enter their optimal operating temps. If I'm pushing the car very hard, I prefer to be at 180 or above, which is normally 210 degrees max thanks to my oil cooler.

90 ST 03-23-2012 03:05 PM

mine sits in a heated garage, and then my whole town is only 40kms/hr, so by the time i'm out of town it's good to go.

kenchan 03-23-2012 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 90 ST (Post 1616952)
mine sits in a heated garage, and then my whole town is only 40kms/hr, so by the time i'm out of town it's good to go.

you only look at water temp?

spearfish25 03-23-2012 03:16 PM

I used to just wait until the needle started to move, but then I installed my oil pressure gauge. The oil pressures don't start to drop to the lower operating pressures until 180+. Cooler than that, the pressures are in the 100-105 PSI range when you're around 2-3k RPM. That was enough to make me warm her up to 180F before getting sporty with my driving.

theDreamer 03-23-2012 03:16 PM

Mine is usually a 5-8 minute warm up, which usually the oil temp gauge is just about to start to move. By the time I am out of my neighborhood it is around 160.
Honestly, you really do not need to wait very long, a good 60 second warm up is all you really need just do not go bouncing it off the rev limiter and you are fine.

mantella87 03-23-2012 03:20 PM

180, I stay below 3k until then.

ZMan8 03-23-2012 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 1616971)
I used to just wait until the needle started to move, but then I installed my oil pressure gauge. The oil pressures don't start to drop to the lower operating pressures until 180+. Cooler than that, the pressures are in the 100-105 PSI range when you're around 2-3k RPM. That was enough to make me warm her up to 180F before getting sporty with my driving.

yep I think of this when I first start driving it. I think it was your thread :tiphat: that pointed out how high the oil pressure gets when you push past 2k rpm and temps are <180.

Pelican170 03-23-2012 03:39 PM

How accurate is the gauge anyways? For example the other day at lunch i went to the local grocery store. It is about 2 miles down the road. By the time i got there, the needle just started to move. Parked, came out 10 mins later and the gauge was then up to 140 or 160.... it jumped a lot while parked which makes me think its slow to move in general...

theDreamer 03-23-2012 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170 (Post 1617018)
How accurate is the gauge anyways? For example the other day at lunch i went to the local grocery store. It is about 2 miles down the road. By the time i got there, the needle just started to move. Parked, came out 10 mins later and the gauge was then up to 140 or 160.... it jumped a lot while parked which makes me think its slow to move in general...

Car sitting can actually warm the car up, it is just sitting static with all the heat staying around it.
Same thing happens when you drive for awhile and you get to 200 degrees and park for a bit and come out and the temp is 220+.

Pelican170 03-23-2012 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1617019)
Car sitting can actually warm the car up, it is just sitting static with all the heat staying around it.
Same thing happens when you drive for awhile and you get to 200 degrees and park for a bit and come out and the temp is 220+.

Gotcha, makes sense I guess...

ZMan8 03-23-2012 03:42 PM

Also if you have an oil cooler the gauge is off a little

Pelican170 03-23-2012 03:42 PM

On another note, i dont think staying under 2k at first is really necessary or the like. For example in BMW's, they have the lights around the RPM's that warn you where to keep your RPM's while the car warms up. The lowest on them starts at like 5000 rpm's, meaning you can rev it to that limit until it warms up quicker...

ZMan8 03-23-2012 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pelican170 (Post 1617027)
On another note, i dont think staying under 2k at first is really necessary or the like. For example in BMW's, they have the lights around the RPM's that warn you where to keep your RPM's while the car warms up. The lowest on them starts at like 5000 rpm's, meaning you can rev it to that limit until it warms up quicker...

The thing is though people were seeing oil pressure of >100 when going only to 3000 rpm.

Pelican170 03-23-2012 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZMan8 (Post 1617026)
Also if you have an oil cooler the gauge is off a little

I dont but im planning on getting one this year. Its been like 75 max outside and my car sits at 220 from normal driving...

Pelican170 03-23-2012 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZMan8 (Post 1617029)
The thing is though people were seeing oil pressure of >100 when going only to 3000 rpm.

Ok, well what is the pressure rating for our car? Is there somewhere that says it should be within x and x limits? Being curious...

theDreamer 03-23-2012 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZMan8 (Post 1617029)
The thing is though people were seeing oil pressure of >100 when going only to 3000 rpm.

Yep, after my camp 2 installed and seeing the pressure so high I always keep my revs down until the oil warms up. Not a huge deal for most people honestly, the only times I could see it being a problem is on extremely cold days and the car takes a long time to warm up.

ZMan8 03-23-2012 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pelican170 (Post 1617030)
I dont but im planning on getting one this year. Its been like 75 max outside and my car sits at 220 from normal driving...

Quote:

This engine oil temp is what you want to see COMING OUT from the motor. In the case of the 370z and any add-on oil cooler, you are actually getting a false reading. Since the factory temp gauge reads engine oil as it exits the Oil Filter, you are actually reading the oil temp coming directly from the oil cooler. The flow pattern for engine oil on a 370z is as follows:

Pick Up Tube --> Oil Pump --> Oil Filter IN --> Oil Filter Out --> Oil Cooler --> Engine Block (Temp and Pressure gauges are located in this galley)

The temp you are reading is actually what is going back INTO the engine (which is perfect). By the time it cycles thru the engine, you can expect to see engine temps in 200 degree range.

As for the thermostatic sandwich plate, it will bypass roughly 80% of the oil back into the engine when too cold. It will still flow ~ 20% thru the oil cooler (preventing air pockets from forming).

To get a TRUE Oil Temp reading, you would need to install an inline oil temp gauge coming out from the Thermostatic Sandwich plate before the oil cooler.
http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...ml#post1457924

ZMan8 03-23-2012 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pelican170 (Post 1617034)
Ok, well what is the pressure rating for our car? Is there somewhere that says it should be within x and x limits? Being curious...

asa rule of thumb, keep it under 100

90 ST 03-23-2012 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1616956)
you only look at water temp?

No, but the oil temp is up enough to hit the hwy by the time i get to a hwy. other then that i don't drive hard near town anyway.

Pelican170 03-23-2012 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZMan8 (Post 1617038)

This confuses me a bit:

"This engine oil temp is what you want to see COMING OUT from the motor. In the case of the 370z and any add-on oil cooler, you are actually getting a false reading. Since the factory temp gauge reads engine oil as it exits the Oil Filter, you are actually reading the oil temp coming directly from the oil cooler. The flow pattern for engine oil on a 370z is as follows:

Pick Up Tube --> Oil Pump --> Oil Filter IN --> Oil Filter Out --> Oil Cooler --> Engine Block (Temp and Pressure gauges are located in this galley)

The temp you are reading is actually what is going back INTO the engine (which is perfect). By the time it cycles thru the engine, you can expect to see engine temps in 200 degree range.

As for the thermostatic sandwich plate, it will bypass roughly 80% of the oil back into the engine when too cold. It will still flow ~ 20% thru the oil cooler (preventing air pockets from forming).

To get a TRUE Oil Temp reading, you would need to install an inline oil temp gauge coming out from the Thermostatic Sandwich plate before the oil cooler.
"

Doesnt that contradict itself?

ZMan8 03-23-2012 03:55 PM

I think what it is saying is if you want oil temps of 200, you would want that kind of temp reading on oil coming out of the engine (meaning oil in the engine is at 200). The 370z oil temps are read before going in the engine though. So if the guage shows 180 degrees, then real oil temps are probably 200

EDIT for those new to the discussion this applies to those with an oil cooler only.

Pelican170 03-23-2012 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZMan8 (Post 1617061)
I think what it is saying is if you want oil temps of 200, you would want that kind of temp reading on oil coming out of the engine (meaning oil in the engine is at 200). The 370z oil temps are read before going in the engine though. So if the guage shows 180 degrees, then real oil temps are probably 200

EDIT for those new to the discussion this applies to those with an oil cooler only.

haha lovely, so since I dont have a cooler, my temps are actually higher than whats being read... oh boy lol

I hope I am understanding this correctly...

ZMan8 03-23-2012 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pelican170 (Post 1617065)
haha lovely, so since I dont have a cooler, my temps are actually higher than whats being read... oh boy lol

I hope I am understanding this correctly...

They shouldn't be. Your set up doesn't allow the oil to cool off enough between when it exits the engine block and comes back in

LakeShow 03-23-2012 06:01 PM

5-10mins idle then go. Until 180, pedestrian speeds.

mantella87 03-23-2012 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LakeShow (Post 1617294)
5-10mins idle then go. Until 180, pedestrian speeds.

10 minutes idle? Woah.

370ZilverZ 03-23-2012 06:48 PM

30 mph speed limits and db drivers for 10-15 minutes any direction I can go to get to a highway. I'm plenty warm by then, and the car is around 180 too.

JerryB5 03-23-2012 07:16 PM

Warm-up Poll question
 
I think maybe the poll question might need a little tweak.
What I think everyone would like to know is what oil temp does most feel is ok to start going WOT, or at least pushing 5-6K. To me I like to see 160 to 180 before I get heavy with the right foot. Otherwise, its 3 to 4K til then. :ugh2:

LakeShow 03-23-2012 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mantella87 (Post 1617352)
10 minutes idle? Woah.

Well I bought the car in the cold months sub 40-30 degree weather so it always used to take a little for the car to warm up but now it has recently gotten warmer in NY like 60-70 it only needs like a minute or two then I drive. I'm still learning lol, I didn't own the car in summer or even hot weather and I've seen temps of 220-230 for the first time in 70 degree weather :eek:. Im scared to see what temps I'll see in 90-100+ weather in NY.

Streetlife 03-23-2012 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1616829)
i wait until 180F oil. revs are kept normal under 4K

:iagree: Same here.

ZOLE 03-23-2012 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey (Post 1616878)
I usually just bounce it off the rev limiter and dump the clutch in reverse to back out of the garage.

Good stuff. This just made me ROTFLMAO!

edconline 03-23-2012 09:32 PM

I go by oil pressure now that I have the gauge as well, wait until it is below 45 psi to go. Usually the water temp is all the way up by then. I don't really get on the throttle though until the oil temp is above 90.

RunNgun 03-23-2012 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey (Post 1616878)
I usually just bounce it off the rev limiter and dump the clutch in reverse to back out of the garage.

Door down like a boss?

slo 03-23-2012 11:35 PM

I start her up for a few seconds and go slow. Pretty much the speed limit and no pushing the car getting up to speed. In the mornings, I am usually 10+ miles down the highway before it even reaches 180 degrees.

LakeShow 03-23-2012 11:53 PM

Turn on car, hold revs to 7,500 for 1 min straight then drive. Engine runs great.


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