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Mt Tam I am 03-22-2012 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170 (Post 1614371)
Yea, and ive seen numerous articles saying it has better times... Those vary...

Sounds like this article used a car not broken in, which is common to do...

I looked for one article before I bought the car, but could not find it. I belief you that there been an article since, could you please post it. I struggled to find the article I'd read before, and still had to have somebody send me the link I posted.

Pelican170 03-22-2012 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 1614388)
I looked for one article before I bought the car, but could not find it. I belief you that there been an article since, could you please post it. I struggled to find the article I'd read before, and still had to have somebody send me the link I posted.

Well, here are 2 articles testing a nismo and non nismo and seperately you can see it shows the nismo being quicker...

Nismo 4.6 0-60

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...o_370z_review/

This shows the non nismo at 4.7...

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...0z_first_test/

ill find some more when i have time, because from what ive read, most show them as being about the same...

There arent too many articles actually comparing the 2, but if you look for the times separately, you will see that a majority of them list them at just about the same, 0 - 60 typically at 4.6 - 4.8...

Huck 03-22-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TopElement (Post 1612497)
Don't forget the Nismo actually looks good, where the regular 370z looks like an ugly toad!

My spidey-troll senses are tingling.


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Mt Tam I am 03-22-2012 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170 (Post 1614438)
Well, here are 2 articles testing a nismo and non nismo and seperately you can see it shows the nismo being quicker...

Nismo 4.6 0-60

2009 Nissan Nismo 370Z First Drive - Review of the Nissan Nismo 370Z sports car - Motor Trend

This shows the non nismo at 4.7...

2009 Nissan 370Z - First Test numbers for the new Nissan 370Z - Motor Trend

ill find some more when i have time, because from what ive read, most show them as being about the same...

There arent too many articles actually comparing the 2, but if you look for the times separately, you will see that a majority of them list them at just about the same, 0 - 60 typically at 4.6 - 4.8...

Yes to 0-60, but it is the slalom times that I'm focused on. Skid Pad too.
What does all the Nismo stiffness accomplish? Why suffer through something that does not go faster around turns?


Test Results:
0 - 30 (sec): 2.1
0 - 45 (sec): 3.6
0 - 60 (sec): 5.3
0 - 75 (sec): 7.7
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 13.6 @ 103.2
0-60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 5.1
30 - 0 (ft): 28
60 - 0 (ft): 115
Braking Rating: Poor
Slalom (mph): 70.4
Skid Pad Lateral acceleration (g): 0.91
Handling Rating: Very Good
Db @ Idle: 47.1
Db @ Full Throttle: 84.8
Db @ 70 mph Cruise: 72.9


VS


Test Results:
0 - 30 (sec): 2.0
0 - 45 (sec): 3.5
0 - 60 (sec): 5.2
0 - 75 (sec): 7.6
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 13.5 @ 103.7
0-60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 4.9
30 - 0 (ft): 26
60 - 0 (ft): 108
Braking Rating: Very Good
Slalom (mph): 72.0
Skid Pad Lateral acceleration (g): 0.94
Handling Rating: Very good
Db @ Idle: 49.2
Db @ Full Throttle: 82.7
Db @ 70 mph Cruise: 70.3

Pelican170 03-22-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 1614524)
Yes to 0-60, but it is the slalom times that I'm focused on. Skid Pad too.
What does all the Nismo stiffness accomplish? Why suffer through something that does not go faster around turns?


Test Results:
0 - 30 (sec): 2.1
0 - 45 (sec): 3.6
0 - 60 (sec): 5.3
0 - 75 (sec): 7.7
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 13.6 @ 103.2
0-60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 5.1
30 - 0 (ft): 28
60 - 0 (ft): 115
Braking Rating: Poor
Slalom (mph): 70.4
Skid Pad Lateral acceleration (g): 0.91
Handling Rating: Very Good
Db @ Idle: 47.1
Db @ Full Throttle: 84.8
Db @ 70 mph Cruise: 72.9


VS


Test Results:
0 - 30 (sec): 2.0
0 - 45 (sec): 3.5
0 - 60 (sec): 5.2
0 - 75 (sec): 7.6
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 13.5 @ 103.7
0-60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 4.9
30 - 0 (ft): 26
60 - 0 (ft): 108
Braking Rating: Very Good
Slalom (mph): 72.0
Skid Pad Lateral acceleration (g): 0.94
Handling Rating: Very good
Db @ Idle: 49.2
Db @ Full Throttle: 82.7
Db @ 70 mph Cruise: 70.3

Well, i dont think basing everything off of one article is smart... im sure you you search you can find conflicting reports...

For example, this one shows it beats out the standard 370z...

http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/co...san-nismo-370z

But like I said, reports are reports and will vary...

280z/300zx 03-22-2012 02:00 PM

One thing to remember, which was brought up back in 2009, was that with the tighter suspension of the Nismo it's going to be much harder to launch. This was one of the reasons considered as to why despite more power it typically didn't pull better 0-60 or 1/4 mile times. I think a better test would be a 5-60 or a 50-80mph pull. Basically rolling tests. Car mags do these tests on some cars but not all; not sure why. Rolling runs are often a better example of a cars acceleration as it takes the launch out of the equation which has so many factors (driver skill, suspension, tires, track prep, etc.)

As for handling, yeah the Nismo has already been shown not to be all that much better. But lets not forget that the regular Z is not exactly crippled to begin with. The regular Z is a damn good handler in it's own right. Not really a whole lot to improve on unless you go crazy with suspension mods. The Nismo had to be a compremise between being better while still being comfortable enough that people would still want to buy it. Lets face it, the majority of sports car owners are hard core enough for the type of suspension that the Nismo should have had.

Lastly, everyone always brings up price between the two Z's, but if you are smart you can get a Nismo for nearly the same price as a touring/sport Z. I paid right under 35k for my touring sport 370z yellow 6-speed. Paid right over 35k for my Nismo with tint, door edging, window etching (aside from the tint I could care less but it was already on the car). I honestly went into the test drive not expecting a difference but was nicely surprised when it did accelerate faster. Even my girlfriend noticed the difference between the two cars, and at the time she was used to her C6 Vette.

All that being said had any dealer in the country had the exact set up I was looking for (blue touring sport 6-speed black interior) I would be driving that right now instead of the Nismo. The nismo is nice but I prefer the touring sport


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