VDC not very intrusive?

ImportConvert · 03-14-2012, 02:57 AM

At spring mountain they told us "Turning the computer off won't make you faster, it will only make you crash faster."

Of course, this was with the ZR1 Corvette, which has one of the best systems out there, basically "Racelogic".

Darryl79 · 03-14-2012, 08:32 AM

Here in Guam we have coral roads, and they can be slick coupled with the constant rain and moisture/humidity in the air. I know it's saved me at least a couple of times. This was due to me taking it to the limit on the corners.

I only turn mine off when intending to play....safely.

GaleForce · 03-14-2012, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

vdc will blow up... dont turn it off.

^^^ Truth

flashburn · 03-14-2012, 08:51 AM

I leave VDC on while driving the streets. Sure, it goes off occasionally, and about 20% of the time it goes off for reasons I don't agree with. Other than that, it usually catches me from doing something stupid and forcing me to correct it myself (or worse). On the street, that's fine, if I'm evoking VDC that often, then I'm probably driving too damn fast/reckless for the streets.

That said, on the track, it pretty much blows. It's way too damn conservative and restricts the throttle for way too long and too aggressively.

cossie1600 · 03-14-2012, 09:12 AM

I just drive slower when condition calls for it, not sure why I need to depend on the VDC when I can drive slower or be more alert. Perhaps it is my bigger tires, but I can get mine to come up making a simple 90 degree turn (I think it is the TCS) without going more than 50% throttle.

cossie1600 · 03-14-2012, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

At spring mountain they told us "Turning the computer off won't make you faster, it will only make you crash faster."

Of course, this was with the ZR1 Corvette, which has one of the best systems out there, basically "Racelogic".

It definitely isn't the case with the 370 (GT-R maybe?). Maybe a professional can correct me, but I am not seeing it. I have driven nicer systems on cars like the 997 GT3 (TCS only), it definitely doesn't interfer like the 370z

flashburn · 03-14-2012, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

I just drive slower when condition calls for it, not sure why I need to depend on the VDC when I can drive slower or be more alert. Perhaps it is my bigger tires, but I can get mine to come up making a simple 90 degree turn (I think it is the TCS) without going more than 50% throttle.

Yeah, it's odd. It definitely seems like people are having differing levels of intrusion with VDC. I can understand if it's being that intrusive, that's ridiculous.

m4a1mustang · 03-14-2012, 09:29 AM

VDC is definitely intrusive on the Z. Like others have mentioned if you get just enough slip to where it cuts in to intervene it will kill power for what seems like forever. As everyone knows there are times when a little bit of wheelspin or a little bit of a slide isn't a bad thing, but VDC seems to think otherwise.

What would have been nice is a standard setting and then a sport setting like what most cars are using these days.

m4a1mustang · 03-14-2012, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by flashburn

Yeah, it's odd. It definitely seems like people are having differing levels of intrusion with VDC. I can understand if it's being that intrusive, that's ridiculous.

It depends on how you drive. On track the VDC is going to kill your times (unless you don't really drive that hard, then maybe it won't). On the street, it really shouldn't matter much but like Mike was saying there are times where it can get you in trouble if it cuts in.

flashburn · 03-14-2012, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

It depends on how you drive. On track the VDC is going to kill your times. On the street, it really shouldn't matter much but like Mike was saying there are times where it can get you in trouble if it cuts in.

I dunno, cossie said that his VDC kicks in doing a 10mph 90 degree turn. I've definitely NEVER seen that happen before.

flashburn · 03-14-2012, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

VDC is definitely intrusive on the Z. Like others have mentioned if you get just enough slip to where it cuts in to intervene it will kill power for what seems like forever. As everyone knows there are times when a little bit of wheelspin or a little bit of a slide isn't a bad thing, but VDC seems to think otherwise.

What would have been nice is a standard setting and then a sport setting like what most cars are using these days.

Honestly if the only thing it did better was not restrict the throttle for so long and so reduced, I'd be okay with it, even on the track. It's just ridiculous that it lasts for literally seconds longer than it should.

m4a1mustang · 03-14-2012, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by flashburn

I dunno, cossie said that his VDC kicks in doing a 10mph 90 degree turn. I've definitely NEVER seen that happen before.

If it's a really tight corner it will happen. VDC used to kick in on this really tight slightly uphill right hander into my neighborhood. It'd take that one at only around 10 mph or so and the car would practically die coming out of it.

cossie1600 · 03-14-2012, 09:35 AM

I will make a video for u tmr when I drive the z. it has to be the tcs that is on

Oh and anytime u hit bumps turning despite the low speed

m4a1mustang · 03-14-2012, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by flashburn

Honestly if the only thing it did better was not restrict the throttle for so long and so reduced, I'd be okay with it, even on the track. It's just ridiculous that it lasts for literally seconds longer than it should.

That's the problem. It's basically like what you'd expect to see in a non-performance car. A sport tuned setting would be very nice to have. Something that lets you get wheel spin and lets you yaw the car out some, only intervening when you go too far... and even then it should do it smoothly.

flashburn · 03-14-2012, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

I will make a video for u tmr when I drive the z. it has to be the tcs that is on

Oh and anytime u hit bumps turning despite the low speed

It's okay, I don't think anyone doubts you. I'm just saying I've never seen it in my car.

03-14-2012, 08:51 AM	#34 (permalink)
flashburn A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,884 Drives: '12 Corvette GS 6M Rep Power: 19	I leave VDC on while driving the streets. Sure, it goes off occasionally, and about 20% of the time it goes off for reasons I don't agree with. Other than that, it usually catches me from doing something stupid and forcing me to correct it myself (or worse). On the street, that's fine, if I'm evoking VDC that often, then I'm probably driving too damn fast/reckless for the streets. That said, on the track, it pretty much blows. It's way too damn conservative and restricts the throttle for way too long and too aggressively. __________________ Current Ride: 2012 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport Centennial Edition Carbon Flash 6M Previous Ride: 2009 Nissan 370Z Sport Platinum Graphite 7AT

03-14-2012, 09:12 AM	#35 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	I just drive slower when condition calls for it, not sure why I need to depend on the VDC when I can drive slower or be more alert. Perhaps it is my bigger tires, but I can get mine to come up making a simple 90 degree turn (I think it is the TCS) without going more than 50% throttle. Last edited by cossie1600; 03-14-2012 at 09:16 AM.

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	VDC is definitely intrusive on the Z. Like others have mentioned if you get just enough slip to where it cuts in to intervene it will kill power for what seems like forever. As everyone knows there are times when a little bit of wheelspin or a little bit of a slide isn't a bad thing, but VDC seems to think otherwise. What would have been nice is a standard setting and then a sport setting like what most cars are using these days. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

03-14-2012, 02:57 AM	#31 (permalink)
ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7627	At spring mountain they told us "Turning the computer off won't make you faster, it will only make you crash faster." Of course, this was with the ZR1 Corvette, which has one of the best systems out there, basically "Racelogic".

03-14-2012, 08:32 AM	#32 (permalink)
Darryl79 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 43 Drives: 12-370ZR-BC-7AT Rep Power: 13	Here in Guam we have coral roads, and they can be slick coupled with the constant rain and moisture/humidity in the air. I know it's saved me at least a couple of times. This was due to me taking it to the limit on the corners. I only turn mine off when intending to play....safely.

03-14-2012, 09:35 AM	#43 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	I will make a video for u tmr when I drive the z. it has to be the tcs that is on Oh and anytime u hit bumps turning despite the low speed