VDC not very intrusive?

cossie1600 · 03-13-2012, 11:11 PM

I got to be honest, I have never left it on for an extended period of time in the Corvette or any sports cars I have owned. I remember I forgot to turn it off once at an autox, it still drove better than the 370 where it can barely move even after you straighten out. The only reason why I compare to the Prius is because I can't turn the VDC off on that.

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Originally Posted by Mike

I'm surprised you think that, especially coming out of a vette. The VDC is way more intrusive in this car, borderline dangerous in some cases I believe, like when you are trying to pull out in traffic briskly and the car cuts all power.

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Originally Posted by kenchan

i think if you keep the car stock it would not be intrusive. most of the time i keep VDC turned on. it's when you start modding and altering all the parameters the program starts to over react.

You have a point there. My car is mostly stock, but I do have bigger and grippier tires on it (pretty much same diameter). It might be why the system is flipping out. I can get the lights to flash doing a 10mph 90 degree turn into a parking lot. I mean I am barely on the gas and the TCS (it's the traction control, not the VDC) is blinking. It is absolutely annoying, I am sure the crappy VLSD on the car doesn't help either.

Oh yeah, the stupid VDC kicked on when a cross wind hit the car at 120mph too. I thought I was seeing things when I saw a light flashing on the dash as it happened

Baer383 · 03-13-2012, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

baer- check out post 4227

What did you do with your Z today II

Yeah I seen that see that's what happens when you TT or SC your car and turn off the VDC.

LMBmikeZ · 03-13-2012, 11:12 PM

If you never turn it off you will never get to truely "give'er!" like mentioned above I find that some times vdc will cut all power, I could only imagine that more power would only increase how often this happens.

If its not raining/wet I drive with vdc off.......

kenchan · 03-13-2012, 11:19 PM

on my modded G the VDC is intrusive.. so in snow and slippery conditions i turn it off. kinda reverse but this is the best way on some cars on slippery conditions AND if one knowz how to drive RWD.

ImportConvert · 03-13-2012, 11:52 PM

I leave TC systems on normally. The VDC on my car has yet to annoy me in the slightest. Of course, I have not pushed it really, either. I think it's smart for the street.

kenchan · 03-14-2012, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I leave TC systems on normally. The VDC on my car has yet to annoy me in the slightest. Of course, I have not pushed it really, either. I think it's smart for the street.

it is a smart system i think too. and better to leave it on unless you're on controlled surface like on a track. never know when pebbles/debris can mess up your predictions going through a turn or exponentially hitting wot on street.

there's just too many variables on street. asphalt to concrete to debris, dust, oils, etc.

christian370z · 03-14-2012, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

The 370Z VDC is more intrusive than the one on my Prius, it is pathetic. It's not learning jack $hit other than keeping people away from cars and solid objects

Not in my experience, there is nothing worse than a 1st/2nd gen Prius when it comes to electronic nannies and terminal understeer. If the roads are wet? Forget about it.

cossie1600 · 03-14-2012, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by christian370z

Not in my experience, there is nothing worse than a 1st/2nd gen Prius when it comes to electronic nannies and terminal understeer. If the roads are wet? Forget about it.

Agree, but the 3rd gens are way better. THey still have a problem with the TCS where it doesn't allow wheelspins, but the VCS is way ahead of the 370 ones. I can get the car completely sideways before the system kicks on where the Nissan one will shut you down before you even have a chance to go sideways

90 ST · 03-14-2012, 12:32 AM

first thing i do when i get in the car is turn it off. Drives me nuts!

ImportConvert · 03-14-2012, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

Agree, but the 3rd gens are way better. THey still have a problem with the TCS where it doesn't allow wheelspins, but the VCS is way ahead of the 370 ones. I can get the car completely sideways before the system kicks on where the Nissan one will shut you down before you even have a chance to go sideways

Going sideways is not how you get there first, why is this desirable?

cossie1600 · 03-14-2012, 01:17 AM

I am saying the system is so intrusive that it won't get you anywhere near to the point of sideways (obviously you can defeat that if you go really fast). It won't even let you approach the limit of cornering. I don't know if it is the TCS/ABLS or stability control, but the system loves cutting power off the corner even when there are no wheelspin.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-14-2012, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

I am saying the system is so intrusive that it won't get you anywhere near to the point of sideways (obviously you can defeat that if you go really fast). It won't even let you approach the limit of cornering. I don't know if it is the TCS/ABLS or stability control, but the system loves cutting power off the corner even when there are no wheelspin.

I guess that's why I don't feel it all that much???

Z_ealot · 03-14-2012, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

I am saying the system is so intrusive that it won't get you anywhere near to the point of sideways (obviously you can defeat that if you go really fast). It won't even let you approach the limit of cornering. I don't know if it is the TCS/ABLS or stability control, but the system loves cutting power off the corner even when there are no wheelspin.

dont know what you're talking about unless they adjusted things in the 2011 and up 370's but i've tooken hairpin turns approaching 80mph and had the VDC on the whole time and have never had it cut power.

3zworld · 03-14-2012, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot

dont know what you're talking about unless they adjusted things in the 2011 and up 370's but i've tooken hairpin turns approaching 80mph and had the VDC on the whole time and have never had it cut power.

Same here, have an '09 and haven't had an issue with it even when pulling a hard right hair pin turn at like 75, the only time is when my backend breaks loose sometimes the limited slip traction control will kick in, but that's different than VDC (Vehicle Distance Control).

'09 F.I. CBE/HFC-Stillen Gen3,Setrab+, SpeedBooster, Tune +ModBod

alcheng · 03-14-2012, 02:47 AM

The VDC saved me two times from: 1st time, almost slide into an already-happened two-cars collision because iced surface on the ramp going 35km/h. 2nd time, prevent me from going into the ditch on a black-iced straight-highway during a snow storm.

I was driving the 350z.

If I was being "smart" like some drivers who doesn't want the VDC interrupt their fun or thinking the VDC is just a stupid thing..... I've crashed twice... at least.... on those surface.... I did have snow tire on the 350z, and they were Toyo.

To be honest, not trying to offense anyone here, but to those who say VDC is stupid, hope you will get into one of those situation with the VDC on and see how you are being saved by the system, then come back here again and tell us what do you think about the system...

I used to turn off the VDC too, having the same thoughts like some people here, but after the first incident, I have it on, and therefore it save me at the 2nd time.

cheers

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LMBmikeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,237 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 10350	If you never turn it off you will never get to truely "give'er!" like mentioned above I find that some times vdc will cut all power, I could only imagine that more power would only increase how often this happens. If its not raining/wet I drive with vdc off....... __________________ CUSTOM NISMO \| BERK \| H&R \| STANCE \| SPL everything \| EVO-R \| 34 Setrab \| WHITELINE \| Redline \| Carkitcompany \| Zspeed \| UpRev \| SEIBON

03-14-2012, 02:47 AM	#30 (permalink)
alcheng A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 28,894 Drives: 2011 ZR PW w/Clutch Rep Power: 418353	The VDC saved me two times from: 1st time, almost slide into an already-happened two-cars collision because iced surface on the ramp going 35km/h. 2nd time, prevent me from going into the ditch on a black-iced straight-highway during a snow storm. I was driving the 350z. If I was being "smart" like some drivers who doesn't want the VDC interrupt their fun or thinking the VDC is just a stupid thing..... I've crashed twice... at least.... on those surface.... I did have snow tire on the 350z, and they were Toyo. To be honest, not trying to offense anyone here, but to those who say VDC is stupid, hope you will get into one of those situation with the VDC on and see how you are being saved by the system, then come back here again and tell us what do you think about the system... I used to turn off the VDC too, having the same thoughts like some people here, but after the first incident, I have it on, and therefore it save me at the 2nd time. cheers Last edited by alcheng; 03-14-2012 at 02:51 AM.

03-13-2012, 11:19 PM	#19 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	on my modded G the VDC is intrusive.. so in snow and slippery conditions i turn it off. kinda reverse but this is the best way on some cars on slippery conditions AND if one knowz how to drive RWD.

03-13-2012, 11:52 PM	#20 (permalink)
ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7627	I leave TC systems on normally. The VDC on my car has yet to annoy me in the slightest. Of course, I have not pushed it really, either. I think it's smart for the street.

03-14-2012, 12:32 AM	#24 (permalink)
90 ST A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Calgary Posts: 1,861 Drives: 90 and 15 GMC Sierra Rep Power: 421	first thing i do when i get in the car is turn it off. Drives me nuts!

03-14-2012, 01:17 AM	#26 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	I am saying the system is so intrusive that it won't get you anywhere near to the point of sideways (obviously you can defeat that if you go really fast). It won't even let you approach the limit of cornering. I don't know if it is the TCS/ABLS or stability control, but the system loves cutting power off the corner even when there are no wheelspin.