I want to trade 2010 nismo for a zl1 camaro

Fire · 03-16-2012, 10:56 PM

China should pay that much if not more. As for real world times Chevy has posted the Nuremberg times and VIR times. Go ahead and compare with others. The VIR times are better than any GTR and the Nuremberg times are very respectable. Anyway I will post times from Watkins Glen when I go for track days. I have to say I like the way the Camaro looks. And as I have said before I will not even look at a Mustang to buy. I just don't like them but everybody has their own opinions. Oh and as for nav. I have a TomTom and don't really need anything else. I can afford the car and will be getting one. I won't have any regrets.

Lemers · 03-16-2012, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Anyone willing to spend $60k on a car just for that is rich enough that such as I have no business arguing with them.

The point you missed was you can dream up any kind of race tailored to any car to let it win.

Get a short oval track and a go-kart will beat both.

Fire · 03-16-2012, 11:02 PM

Tru dat I ran my 91 Firebird on a go-cart road course in Solocross. That is where I learned that my stock tires where like rocks, they did make alot of smoke though.

cossie1600 · 03-16-2012, 11:11 PM

GM is consider a premium brand in China. GM makes a killing off their Chinese division.

m4a1mustang · 03-16-2012, 11:15 PM

Chinese LOVE Buick.

Lemers · 03-16-2012, 11:27 PM

GM started selling in china because they were sick of china copying their designs

ImportConvert · 03-16-2012, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers

The point you missed was you can dream up any kind of race tailored to any car to let it win.

Get a short oval track and a go-kart will beat both.

You are 100% on target, and this is why fords sra still sells. On flat tracks it does great, so magazines sell fords and people who track them do fine if they stay off rough curbing. In the real world though, over less than perfect roads, not as good.

This is one quibble I also have with my 370. My z06 handled wavy roads and dips much better. That so far is the only complaint I have regarding performance. Poor rebound control.

Fire · 03-16-2012, 11:36 PM

Import do a search in suspension section. I'm sure there are handling posts there.

m4a1mustang · 03-16-2012, 11:43 PM

IC... Koni Yellows

Iceagetlc · 03-17-2012, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemers

No just riding b!tch in your friend's mustang.

Any seat in a mustang is riding bitch.

As for above, the 2013 GT500 is gonna have one hell of a mark-up it's first year. Especially being the 20th anniversary of SVT.

Lemers · 03-17-2012, 12:14 AM

If you pay the mark up you aint looking

Iceagetlc · 03-17-2012, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemers

If you pay the mark up you aint looking

Good point, I've always assumed the people who pay that are in a comfortable enough tax bracket to even worry about it.

ImportConvert · 03-17-2012, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemers

If you pay the mark up you aint looking

+1

Lemers · 03-17-2012, 12:53 AM

This summer I was looking at the GT500 here in EL Paso and the dealers were marking them up between $8 and $10k. They wouldn't even negotiate. But I found places near Dallas advertising on the Internet GT500s between invoice and MSRP. I have no problem visiting Dallas for a weekend to save $8k or more.

Lemers · 03-17-2012, 12:58 AM

Also I'm a member of USAA and they have a pre negotiated price for most cars. So I'll compare Internet prices, usaa prices, and have several dealers bidding against each other. Remember this year the Shelby's are bein built on the same line as the GT. So ford said it would built as many as were ordered even up to 10k.

03-16-2012, 10:56 PM	#241 (permalink)
Fire A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: WNY Posts: 4,117 Drives: 12 ZL1 6mt black Rep Power: 43	China should pay that much if not more. As for real world times Chevy has posted the Nuremberg times and VIR times. Go ahead and compare with others. The VIR times are better than any GTR and the Nuremberg times are very respectable. Anyway I will post times from Watkins Glen when I go for track days. I have to say I like the way the Camaro looks. And as I have said before I will not even look at a Mustang to buy. I just don't like them but everybody has their own opinions. Oh and as for nav. I have a TomTom and don't really need anything else. I can afford the car and will be getting one. I won't have any regrets. __________________ 2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 6MT coupe Back N' Black. 680hp

03-16-2012, 11:02 PM	#243 (permalink)
Fire A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: WNY Posts: 4,117 Drives: 12 ZL1 6mt black Rep Power: 43	Tru dat I ran my 91 Firebird on a go-cart road course in Solocross. That is where I learned that my stock tires where like rocks, they did make alot of smoke though. __________________ 2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 6MT coupe Back N' Black. 680hp

03-16-2012, 11:15 PM	#245 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Chinese LOVE Buick. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

03-16-2012, 11:27 PM	#246 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	GM started selling in china because they were sick of china copying their designs __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

03-16-2012, 11:36 PM	#248 (permalink)
Fire A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: WNY Posts: 4,117 Drives: 12 ZL1 6mt black Rep Power: 43	Import do a search in suspension section. I'm sure there are handling posts there. __________________ 2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 6MT coupe Back N' Black. 680hp

03-16-2012, 11:11 PM	#244 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	GM is consider a premium brand in China. GM makes a killing off their Chinese division.

03-16-2012, 11:43 PM	#249 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	IC... Koni Yellows __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

03-17-2012, 12:14 AM	#251 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	If you pay the mark up you aint looking __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

03-17-2012, 12:53 AM	#254 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	This summer I was looking at the GT500 here in EL Paso and the dealers were marking them up between $8 and $10k. They wouldn't even negotiate. But I found places near Dallas advertising on the Internet GT500s between invoice and MSRP. I have no problem visiting Dallas for a weekend to save $8k or more. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

03-17-2012, 12:58 AM	#255 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	Also I'm a member of USAA and they have a pre negotiated price for most cars. So I'll compare Internet prices, usaa prices, and have several dealers bidding against each other. Remember this year the Shelby's are bein built on the same line as the GT. So ford said it would built as many as were ordered even up to 10k. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

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