I want to trade 2010 nismo for a zl1 camaro

Red__Zed · 03-12-2012, 09:18 PM

Just to be clear, you are complaining about this wear after X miles:

and you contrast with this picture of a (brand new) 370z interior:

Did you even look at the driver's bolster?

I mean, IMO, the 370z's interior is far better, but showing how your corvette seat wore is not going to prove a point...also, the Z seats are leather-faced vinyl like the ones in the vette....

Fire · 03-12-2012, 09:23 PM

Vossen I agree about the luxury but you are way off on performance. The ZL1 has true handling capabilities and 580HP is no low hp ride.

ImportConvert · 03-12-2012, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire

Don't know if I could swing the finacing of a used C6 Z06. There is no doubt the Z06 is a great car. I hate the looks of gen 4 vetts.

A cherry low-mile 08+ Z06 can be had in the 40's/LOW 50's, you think the ZL1 will be cheaper somehow?

ImportConvert · 03-12-2012, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Just to be clear, you are complaining about this wear after X miles:

and you contrast with this picture of a (brand new) 370z interior:

Did you even look at the driver's bolster?

I mean, IMO, the 370z's interior is far better, but showing how your corvette seat wore is not going to prove a point...also, the Z seats are leather-faced vinyl like the ones in the vette....

My 370Z seats look nothing like the one pictured. I was hoping you wouldn't see that :P

Fire · 03-12-2012, 09:46 PM

Import banks are not really giving when it comes to loans on used cars. It's much easier to finance $56,000 for a new car than it is $50,000 for a used.

Fire · 03-12-2012, 09:48 PM

As I've said before I do like the C6 Vette. I've owned Vettes and Camaro's in the past. I had a 69 Stingray vert, 350hp/350ci with a 4 speed and I installed a supercherger myself. Loved that car it was old school bad *** LOL

ZScr3am · 03-12-2012, 10:02 PM

I am a huge fan of American muscle! Love the heritage and the history behind the whole reason of owning one of these cars. 60K is a lot of dough for a Camaro!! If you want a great track car buy a base model Z and put about 15K in it and pocket the rest or better yet buy a used GTR and have some fun. That's all I have to say about that!

jav@vossen · 03-12-2012, 10:47 PM

Both are great cars, good luck.

Lemers · 03-12-2012, 10:51 PM

So I looked up the ZL1 just cause I haven't seen anything for the GT500. Well a fully loaded ZL1 goes for $58k.

Everyone seems to think the next Gt500 is gonna come in around $55k to $60k.
I guess the big difference between the 2 is gonna be HP vs IRS. Do you think 80 HP overcomes IRS?

Fire · 03-12-2012, 11:00 PM

I think the ZL1 will def. out handle the GT500. I'm not sure how many times the ultimate higher hp or top speed will come into play. I will let you guys know once I have my ZL1 and a GT500 shows up to a track day I'm at.

ImportConvert · 03-12-2012, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire

Import banks are not really giving when it comes to loans on used cars. It's much easier to finance $56,000 for a new car than it is $50,000 for a used.

Not really. Within the last few years, it's all the same. Same interest rate, etc. Maybe try another bank? I joined a CU and love it. They would finance a 2010 model car right now at the same rate they financed my Z, I believe. Maybe even a 2009.

Lug · 03-13-2012, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemers

So I looked up the ZL1 just cause I haven't seen anything for the GT500. Well a fully loaded ZL1 goes for $58k.

Everyone seems to think the next Gt500 is gonna come in around $55k to $60k.
I guess the big difference between the 2 is gonna be HP vs IRS. Do you think 80 HP overcomes IRS?

Curb weight. 4120 vs. 3850 isn't insignificant.

Kenny · 03-13-2012, 03:58 AM

LOL, you're asking a bunch of Z owners for an unbiased opinion on whether or not to trade your Z.

Lemers · 03-13-2012, 09:54 AM

The power to weight of the ZL1 is 7.1 lbs to every 1 HP and the GT500 is 5.9 lbs for every 1 HP.

The GT500 may have a SRA but it has less weight to deal with around the corners and more HP to through at the next straight.

m4a1mustang · 03-13-2012, 10:01 AM

Meh we'll wait and see what happens. My guess is the Camaro will be the best car for people that want the Camaro and the GT500 will be the best car for people that want the GT500. Funny how things work out that way.

03-12-2012, 09:23 PM	#107 (permalink)
Fire A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: WNY Posts: 4,117 Drives: 12 ZL1 6mt black Rep Power: 43	Vossen I agree about the luxury but you are way off on performance. The ZL1 has true handling capabilities and 580HP is no low hp ride. __________________ 2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 6MT coupe Back N' Black. 680hp

03-12-2012, 09:46 PM	#110 (permalink)
Fire A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: WNY Posts: 4,117 Drives: 12 ZL1 6mt black Rep Power: 43	Import banks are not really giving when it comes to loans on used cars. It's much easier to finance $56,000 for a new car than it is $50,000 for a used. __________________ 2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 6MT coupe Back N' Black. 680hp

03-12-2012, 09:48 PM	#111 (permalink)
Fire A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: WNY Posts: 4,117 Drives: 12 ZL1 6mt black Rep Power: 43	As I've said before I do like the C6 Vette. I've owned Vettes and Camaro's in the past. I had a 69 Stingray vert, 350hp/350ci with a 4 speed and I installed a supercherger myself. Loved that car it was old school bad *** LOL __________________ 2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 6MT coupe Back N' Black. 680hp

03-12-2012, 10:02 PM	#112 (permalink)
ZScr3am Base Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nashville Posts: 118 Drives: 11 370z 6MT Rep Power: 14	AM I am a huge fan of American muscle! Love the heritage and the history behind the whole reason of owning one of these cars. 60K is a lot of dough for a Camaro!! If you want a great track car buy a base model Z and put about 15K in it and pocket the rest or better yet buy a used GTR and have some fun. That's all I have to say about that! __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT-19" Vertini Riviera Wheels-Swift Spec R-15mm F and 20mm R spacers-Stillen Gen 3 Powder Coated Red-F.I. 18" Res CBE-Berk HFC-UpRev-Tommy Kaira Heavy Baby Knob-GTR Start Button-Pioneer Avic Z130-Image Dynamics CXS64 v.2, IDQ10 V.3 D4& i5800- 5% Tint-Gloss Black Vinyl roof-Evo-R Fog Light and Mirrors... More to come!

03-12-2012, 10:47 PM	#113 (permalink)
jav@vossen Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Miami Posts: 441 Drives: Z Rep Power: 16	Both are great cars, good luck. __________________ Jav Vossen Wheels 1-888-463-7778 --- Web: www.vossenwheels.com Video: www.youtube.com/vossenwheels / Images: www.flickr.com/vossenwheels Twitter: www.twitter.com/vossenwheels / Facebook: www.facebook.com/vossenwheels

03-12-2012, 09:18 PM	#106 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	Just to be clear, you are complaining about this wear after X miles: and you contrast with this picture of a (brand new) 370z interior: Did you even look at the driver's bolster? I mean, IMO, the 370z's interior is far better, but showing how your corvette seat wore is not going to prove a point...also, the Z seats are leather-faced vinyl like the ones in the vette....

03-12-2012, 10:51 PM	#114 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	So I looked up the ZL1 just cause I haven't seen anything for the GT500. Well a fully loaded ZL1 goes for $58k. Everyone seems to think the next Gt500 is gonna come in around $55k to $60k. I guess the big difference between the 2 is gonna be HP vs IRS. Do you think 80 HP overcomes IRS? __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

03-12-2012, 11:00 PM	#115 (permalink)
Fire A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: WNY Posts: 4,117 Drives: 12 ZL1 6mt black Rep Power: 43	I think the ZL1 will def. out handle the GT500. I'm not sure how many times the ultimate higher hp or top speed will come into play. I will let you guys know once I have my ZL1 and a GT500 shows up to a track day I'm at. __________________ 2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 6MT coupe Back N' Black. 680hp

03-13-2012, 03:58 AM	#118 (permalink)
Kenny Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 330 Drives: 2011 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 15	LOL, you're asking a bunch of Z owners for an unbiased opinion on whether or not to trade your Z. __________________

03-13-2012, 09:54 AM	#119 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	The power to weight of the ZL1 is 7.1 lbs to every 1 HP and the GT500 is 5.9 lbs for every 1 HP. The GT500 may have a SRA but it has less weight to deal with around the corners and more HP to through at the next straight. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

03-13-2012, 10:01 AM	#120 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Meh we'll wait and see what happens. My guess is the Camaro will be the best car for people that want the Camaro and the GT500 will be the best car for people that want the GT500. Funny how things work out that way. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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