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bigsix 02-27-2012 09:44 PM

Nissan does smart business(?)
 
What do you know about Nissan's model and tactics for their business?

Looking at their car lineup; they offer something for everyone, at every price-level, at good value. This seems to be " a finger in every pie."

Is this smart business (in your opinion)?

How has Carlos Ghosn changed the company since becoming CEO?

Was a large part of his help from efficient and cost-cutting production?

would like to hear any opinions...thanks

Nick911sc 02-27-2012 09:45 PM

When is this assignment due? How many words are required? I'd also like to know what % of my grade it will be before taking the final..

Thanks

nmjaxx9 02-27-2012 09:48 PM

:worship:

bigsix 02-27-2012 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick911sc (Post 1569748)
When is this assignment due? How many words are required? I'd also like to know what % of my grade it will be before taking the final..

Thanks

hahaha...

- it's due at the end of the period (day)
- 10-100 words
-5% of your final grade

... j/k. would like to hear what you think of the company

nmjaxx9 02-27-2012 09:54 PM

my last post pretty much sums up what I think about Nissan. :tup:

UNKNOWN_370 02-27-2012 10:01 PM

Nissan is making a good product. I know interior quality has improved over the last 5 model years. If I went and researched the answers further to meet your need for an answer? I would be working too hard for an answer that wouldn't improve my life in any form or fashion. I've owned nissans before Ghosn and now with him. As long as the products stay improving I really don't care who or how?

alcheng 02-27-2012 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bigsix (Post 1569744)
What do you know about Nissan's model and tactics for their business?

Looking at their car lineup; they offer something for everyone, at every price-level, at good value. This seems to be " a finger in every pie."

Is this smart business (in your opinion)?

How has Carlos Ghosn changed the company since becoming CEO?

Was a large part of his help from efficient and cost-cutting production?

would like to hear any opinions...thanks

hey, why not choose Hyundai? Just curious.

nmjaxx9 02-27-2012 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 1569779)
hey, why not choose Hyundai? Just curious.

because the 370z>Genesis coupe :rofl2:

enkei2k 02-27-2012 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigsix (Post 1569744)
Looking at their car lineup; they offer something for everyone, at every price-level, at good value. This seems to be " a finger in every pie."

still need a cheap, small RWD car to compete with the BRZ/FT86, then they'll have something for everone.

alcheng 02-27-2012 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by nmjaxx9 (Post 1569783)
because the 370z>Genesis coupe :rofl2:

True.

The OP is focusing on the whole company, and I think Hyundai did and is still doing a good job and right direction so far.

You can see how they change the image of the brand, boost volume of sales and adding more ingredients into their model and line up.

They might be too agressive or not up to that level yet, but under the current global situation, they have the 'guts' and idea to take the risk and up challenge other manufactures, I think Hyundai should deserve some respect, (well, maybe not for styling).

And I think there are lots of things OP can write about Hyundai.

CAD$0.02

bigsix 02-27-2012 10:33 PM

I don't care much for Hyundai; although, if i'm forced to, i can say I respect the brand.


I think the one area where Nissan has really excelled is Design. That carries over to Infiniti, as well.

LakeShow 02-28-2012 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bigsix (Post 1569860)
I don't care much for Hyundai; although, if i'm forced to, i can say I respect the brand.

Hyundai is still a Hyundai at the end of the day.

alcheng 02-28-2012 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by LakeShow (Post 1570426)
Hyundai is still a Hyundai at the end of the day.

Well, at least they are working hard to climb up the ladder. I am not saying I like their cars or whatever, since the original post from OP is talking about the Company, not a specific model from the line-up, I just want to say he could have much more to say about Hyundai.

If you say Hyundai is still a Hyundai, it is true, but look at Toyota, if someone tell you Toyota can compete with MB and BMW 30 years ago, you won't believe it either.

Anyway

just my CAD$0.02

:tiphat:

TerribleONE 02-28-2012 10:28 AM

A Nissan is just a nissan as well though.. I love my Z but its not that special..

Nick911sc 02-28-2012 10:34 AM

When I visited South Korea there are a ton of Nissan's running around..But they're re badged under Samsung's car company.

UNKNOWN_370 02-28-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 1570480)
A Nissan is just a nissan as well though.. I love my Z but its not that special..

Exactly. I don't understand how any of us can sit here and say its still a hyundai.
Example. I own a 2.5s altima 2012. I have rented the comparable sonata. The sonata out features the altima by a landslide from its base standpoint and once both are equally featured on the high end. There is a $5000 difference between an altima and a hyundai. Power is better in the hyundai. You get bluetooth usb port and all that other sh1t standard. You have to pay over 26k in an altima to get the same features in a 21k sonata. Interior quality is inferior to nissan. But not $5k inferior. Don't get it twisted. I love my altima in styling, interior quality and it handles better than a sonata by a small margin. But when you compare the two. They come in even. Its all personal preference.

Another thing. I owned a G and was on the G forum for a short time.... won't say which one but they were the most full o shyyyt bunch I ever came across. They kept talking about how nissan is inferior product and Infiniti is sooooo much better.
MEANWHILE. Its the same friggin FM platform derived from Nissan. And what's even worse... in japan. The friggin G37 is a NISSAN SKYLINE. How pretentious and ignorant can one be. Its a rebadged Nissan and you don't even know it. Just because leather is standard and you get intelligent cruise control and you get an extra 2 ways on your power seats you feel superior????? WHAT A FKIN JOKE!.
Same goes with hyundai. The Z is superior to the gencoupe. But as a whole company? I tell you this much. If I was buying lower end? Accent, Elantra are way better cars than Versa, Sentra. And the genesis sedan... 44k gets you v8 power and very good RWD handling. Nissan can't offer you that at 44k.

Brutal 370Z 02-28-2012 11:21 AM

From a purely business perspective, Nissan has a winning formula. They are notorious for providing cars that stretch your dollar further. They are able to do this through operational optimization. If you notice, there is little diversification in many of their parts. Example: They only produce a limited number of engined which are versatile and can be tuned accordingly depending on the model. Their computer interface is also diverse and used in many models including the Infiniti line. This limits the number of production lines and subsequently minimizes inefficiency. The Germans also do this well. If you look at a company that hasn't done this well in the past (i.e. GM), you can spot the obvious differences:
- they needed a different production line for every single model of car
- they had too many redundant lines producing identical vehicles with different badges
- etc.

Furthermore, Nissan has a great marketing strategy, appealing to buyers of all ages. They also market Infiniti very well. I also like how they reduce canibalization by providing different incentives for buyers to buy a nissan vs. infiniti or vice versa.

So, all-in-all, they do a solid job of managing their company.

AlphaSnacks 02-28-2012 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 1570480)
A Nissan is just a nissan as well though.. I love my Z but its not that special..

Yeeep. People who say it's still a Hyundai forget that just 30-40 years ago, their cars were just Datsuns, and Datsuns were not perceived terribly well by the American populous.

Nearly every foreign product to break an international barrier here in the US had to go through the painstaking process of overcoming a certain inherent cheapness that would allow it to get its foot in the door, before making a truly quality product they can sell at competitive levels.

Kia and Hyundai started out at the bottom of the barrel in pricing and in quality, but they got their foot in the door and quickly improved it all across the board, winning awards left and right.

UNKNOWN_370 02-28-2012 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutal 370Z (Post 1570581)
From a purely business perspective, Nissan has a winning formula. They are notorious for providing cars that stretch your dollar further. They are able to do this through operational optimization. If you notice, there is little diversification in many of their parts. Example: They only produce a limited number of engined which are versatile and can be tuned accordingly depending on the model. Their computer interface is also diverse and used in many models including the Infiniti line. This limits the number of production lines and subsequently minimizes inefficiency. The Germans also do this well. If you look at a company that hasn't done this well in the past (i.e. GM), you can spot the obvious differences:
- they needed a different production line for every single model of car
- they had too many redundant lines producing identical vehicles with different badges
- etc.

Furthermore, Nissan has a great marketing strategy, appealing to buyers of all ages. They also market Infiniti very well. I also like how they reduce canibalization by providing different incentives for buyers to buy a nissan vs. infiniti or vice versa.

So, all-in-all, they do a solid job of managing their company.


GM has changed strategy over the last 4 years and most of their cars are global platforms easily interchangeable with other models. The redundant lines are done...
As far as engines in diverse models... many companies have been doing this for many years... Even american ones. Dodge and GM has interchanged engines for years. As well as VW, Toyota,, Subaru, Mitsubishi, Nissan. BMW, just to name a few.

bvl 02-28-2012 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by LakeShow (Post 1570426)
Hyundai is still a Hyundai at the end of the day.

Pretty obtuse statement. I travel a fair amount and like to try different cars. I am able to pick them with my rental car company.

I snagged a Maxima yesterday and well...talk about *disappointment*. They still have the '4DSC' tag which was true in the 90's but now...ick.

Having rented enough 4 cylinder Sonata's recently, its a better car feature for feature. The Max has a better steering wheel, but the 3.5 is rougher then it should be, the CVT is meh, interior trim OK but not what it should be for their flagship sedan at all.

The Maxima feels far heavier then the 3400-3500 lbs its listed at.

Other then styling...its hardly differentiated from the Altima.

If you said here's 25K you must buy one of the other...Nissan would lose here if it was my money.

- b

AlphaSnacks 02-28-2012 11:40 AM

I have to ask...why did you buy a Maxima if you didn't like it?

Unless it was a rental?

fncrow 02-28-2012 12:22 PM

My first car was a used 2001 Hyundai Elantra GT. I paid 8k for it in 2003 and ran it till i bought my Z in 09.

It was a good car for the first few years and came with a lot of features that other used cars of the same year didnt. I did have to replace the clutch twice on it. The wheels became warped once. Also a ball bearing or something in the rear wheels/axle or something had to be replaces once. The CD player in it died once and had to be replaced and one of the front head lights constantly burned out and had to be replaced.

Most of these things kinda all happened at once too. It ran great up till about 2006 then it seemed every year onward something had to be replaced but i didnt have the money to get a new car till around 09 and i bought the Z.

Strangely enough i had a dream last night that my Z had a steering wheel lock problem so that means its probably gonna happen to me soon :p

TheGreatOne 02-28-2012 12:23 PM

I didn't really care for Nissan before really....I was all about the Z

Looking at the rest of the lineup, not bad. None for realiabilty, even if I didn't follow the cars, I put them in line with Honda for reliability.

When I look at Nissan in the media etc, it seems like their Marketing is in line with everyone else. I don't find they exploit their "eye poppers" in the media enough

BMW will always show that Hybrid see-through car of theirs lol even if they aren't selling it so sometimes I wish Nissan would show their Z and GTR a bit more...but hey, overall, solid car company, I feel they are just riding their good name thought...waiting for something innovative

UNKNOWN_370 02-28-2012 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGreatOne (Post 1570686)
BMW will always show that Hybrid see-through car of theirs lol even if they aren't selling it so sometimes I wish Nissan would show their Z and GTR a bit more...but hey, overall, solid car company, I feel they are just riding their good name thought...waiting for something innovative

I love always loved nissans... they have a G-swag that the other imports don't have. But I totally agree with you on this statement right here. It always feels like Nissan is happy being unique in a performance aspect and superior quality for the price range, but not really excelling in features or innovation outside of the GT-R and Z.
Even with the Z, the $32000 base model generally has nothing. You get more from a 13k accent in standard features. Thank god the Z has climate control. Imagine max AC in a 32k sports car? Lol. Its the only feature on a base Z that's upscale I guess???

my2004Z 02-28-2012 02:04 PM

I look at this from the standpoint of grade and quality. Grade is the indication of the level of refinement and quality is the ability to consistently meet that grade.

Nissan has targeted the medium to lower-high grade segment and in my opinion dominates it and builds quality products. The fact that they continue to be the first to market products such as an everyday supercar (GT-R), a high performance sports car for under $30K and a fully electric car tells you that they have their $hit together in most if not all business aspects. They continue to go to market 2-3 years ahead of the competition with innovative and game changing products. That is a tell tale sign of a very healthy company.

The Hyundais and Kias of the world are working their way up the grade ladder but from what I have seen do not yet have the quality aspect down just yet. Let's see how the Elantras and Sonatas are holding up 5 years from now. I hope they all improve as it will force Nissan to raise their game even more. :yum:

vividracing 02-28-2012 02:53 PM

I rented a 2011 Elantra this weekend, and was pretty pleased. The brake pedal was positioned a little too high and the radio had a little too much mid bass, but overall it was a great car for that market segment. I was able to tweak the audio settings to get a great sound from my iPod, which was being played via the standard Aux input. It was very roomy, as well.

PapoZalsa 02-28-2012 08:21 PM

Not another hypothesis....

sonic370 02-28-2012 08:59 PM

I'll make my answer short if i can.
Only bought the 370 because of it's looks and all the other reason we all know about. Knew nothing about nissan. My wife now drives a 2010 rouge to soon to tell how it will work out.. the only other car i would buy from nissan would be a
loaded out maxima if it offered the 3.7 VQ

bigsix 02-29-2012 03:52 AM

My Mom is leasing a 2010 Maxima. I think it's a great car. I'd prefer that it [U]not[U] have front-wheel drive and CVT.

I think it would be quite challenging to produce a product for every kind of buyer & price range. They can't just focus on one type of car, but they end up producing good quality across the lineup.
Without doubt, the GT-R is Nissan's best car (imho).

ImportConvert 02-29-2012 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigsix (Post 1569764)
hahaha...

- it's due at the end of the period (day)
- 10-100 words
-5% of your final grade

... j/k. would like to hear what you think of the company

I don't like how they do their production/sourcing for the US. It pisses of customers who want a car with the options THEY want.

Aizen Sosuke 02-29-2012 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by enkei2k (Post 1569787)
still need a cheap, small RWD car to compete with the BRZ/FT86, then they'll have something for everone.

A revival of the Silvia will fill that gap.

To the OP I do appreciate the revival of the Z back in 2003 and I think that was due to Goshn. Things at the time were not looking too good for sport cars. If you wanted some serious power you had to get a corvette pretty much at the time and there was nothing affordable for around 30k. They split that difference just like they did back in 1970. Unfortunately for me I could not afford a 350Z at that time but I did like they way things turned out.


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