Thinkin about getting a Z

sceptre155 · 02-25-2012, 04:40 PM

Drove a Z this morning. The shifting is awesome. I liked everything except the stereo. What a piece of crap. Can always swap that out I suppose. Dealer in CT had 3 nismo's. One was a 2011 and he only dropped 3800 off the msrp. I would have thought they could have done better. What's people pAying for their Z's compared to the msrp??

sceptre155 · 02-25-2012, 06:19 PM

It looks like the nismo for 2013 is exactly the same? other then a few options i dont care about. Is that true? i tried looking around but couldnt tell for sure.

LakeShow · 02-25-2012, 06:35 PM

^^2013 apparently gets the Touring Bose sound system.

nmjaxx9 · 02-25-2012, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sceptre155

Drove a Z this morning. The shifting is awesome. I liked everything except the stereo. What a piece of crap. Can always swap that out I suppose. Dealer in CT had 3 nismo's. One was a 2011 and he only dropped 3800 off the msrp. I would have thought they could have done better. What's people pAying for their Z's compared to the msrp??

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Originally Posted by sceptre155

It looks like the nismo for 2013 is exactly the same? other then a few options i dont care about. Is that true? i tried looking around but couldnt tell for sure.

What dealer in CT did you go to?

And as for your answer to the Nismo question yes a few minor changes:

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The Nismo model doesn’t benefit from the visual tweaks, but gets a new Bose Premium Audio Package with two additional speakers and two subwoofers, premium gun metallic dark-finish 19-inch wheels, and Nissan GT-R style high-rigidity brake hoses and performance brake fluid.

2013 Nissan 370Z Preview | Motorward

ImportConvert · 02-25-2012, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sceptre155

Drove a Z this morning. The shifting is awesome. I liked everything except the stereo. What a piece of crap. Can always swap that out I suppose. Dealer in CT had 3 nismo's. One was a 2011 and he only dropped 3800 off the msrp. I would have thought they could have done better. What's people pAying for their Z's compared to the msrp??

My dealer stuck me with msrp, but over allowed on my trade by about $2k. Also, there is only one other car in the US, with only two more I know about scheduled to arrive, like mine.

sceptre155 · 02-26-2012, 08:34 AM

Thanks for the info guys. Looks like its not worth waiting for the 2013 to come out. I did see someone mention they added a oil cooler on the 2012 nismo? I'm not far away from the Watkins Glen Race track. But that's a once a year kinda thing. It's going to be more of a daily driver and back road rocket. I've been checking out the audio/video forums. Looks like plenty of info on upgrading to nav, backup camera etc...

I may test drive a Mustang tomorrow... still undecided. If i did I'd be looking for a Laguna Seca model. 370z still looks better imo. The mustang interior pics i've seen look kinda blah to me also.

nmjaxx9 · 02-26-2012, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

My dealer stuck me with msrp, but over allowed on my trade by about $2k. Also, there is only one other car in the US, with only two more I know about scheduled to arrive, like mine.

Nice! the rarer the better, it makes you feel like you are in a league of your own.

280z/300zx · 02-26-2012, 06:31 PM

I know things have changed as Nissan is not really cranking out Z's anymore but I got both my 370z's for way under MSRP. In 2009 when the Z was just coming to dealers I special ordered my 09 touring sport yellow 6-speed. Got it for 500 under invoice. Sadly a year and a half later she was totaled and I replaced her with a 2010 Nismo. My Nismo had a sticker price of 45k. They had a 2500 dealer mark up for being a Nismo as well as charging extra for window tint, window etchings, door guards. It took 3 weeks of negotiating but I got the car for 35k and change. They kept telling me it's a Nismo and that it's a hot item but after 3weeks of not moving the car, with them also knowing I had a 800+ credit score and money to go with it they caved. If you aren't in a rush then time is on your side to get the deal you want.

With regards to the mustang, it's hard to pass up. Superior in acceleration and just as good through the corners and typically cheaper to buy and easier to find. The only downside I see with them is that they are freaking everywhere. Every time I get an itch to even go check the 5.0 out I force myself to count how many mustangs I see on a simple 5mile drive. Usually it's 20+ and gets rid of my itch for a stang. Still, unless Nissan announces something in the next year or so about a 2014 Z that is drastically better I'm probably going to another car. I mean I'll still have my 280z and 300zx so it's all good

sceptre155 · 02-26-2012, 09:05 PM

Yeah, I'm not in a a hurry. The 302's are going for way more then msrp from what I hear online. Which is a no go for me. And the Gt500 with some options is close to 60k. At that price I can think of a few others I'd buy. Anyways... I'm ask around and see who really wants my money. I really like the pearl white. But black with some red racing stripes sound hot too.

ImportConvert · 02-27-2012, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx

I know things have changed as Nissan is not really cranking out Z's anymore but I got both my 370z's for way under MSRP. In 2009 when the Z was just coming to dealers I special ordered my 09 touring sport yellow 6-speed. Got it for 500 under invoice. Sadly a year and a half later she was totaled and I replaced her with a 2010 Nismo. My Nismo had a sticker price of 45k. They had a 2500 dealer mark up for being a Nismo as well as charging extra for window tint, window etchings, door guards. It took 3 weeks of negotiating but I got the car for 35k and change. They kept telling me it's a Nismo and that it's a hot item but after 3weeks of not moving the car, with them also knowing I had a 800+ credit score and money to go with it they caved. If you aren't in a rush then time is on your side to get the deal you want.

With regards to the mustang, it's hard to pass up. Superior in acceleration and just as good through the corners and typically cheaper to buy and easier to find. The only downside I see with them is that they are freaking everywhere. Every time I get an itch to even go check the 5.0 out I force myself to count how many mustangs I see on a simple 5mile drive. Usually it's 20+ and gets rid of my itch for a stang. Still, unless Nissan announces something in the next year or so about a 2014 Z that is drastically better I'm probably going to another car. I mean I'll still have my 280z and 300zx so it's all good

sadly I had to rush. The car I wanted was very rare, and they sell instantly. My dealer found two before, and they sold before the dealer could even talk to the other dealership. I called independantly and asked, myself. My dealer was telling me the truth. The car I got, I bought out from under someone why was trying to get it while we were on the phone, they said. True? Who knows, but you won't find any more like mine within 1500 miles of me. Maybe one, that's it.

sceptre155 · 02-27-2012, 06:13 AM

What's rare about yours? The color.?

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-27-2012, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

My dealer stuck me with msrp, but over allowed on my trade by about $2k. Also, there is only one other car in the US, with only two more I know about scheduled to arrive, like mine.

Its hard budging them on price on the AT. But the 6mt, I'm shocked they didn't drop price... interesting.

alcheng · 02-27-2012, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

My dealer stuck me with msrp, but over allowed on my trade by about $2k. Also, there is only one other car in the US, with only two more I know about scheduled to arrive, like mine.

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Its hard budging them on price on the AT. But the 6mt, I'm shocked they didn't drop price... interesting.

It's either higher trade-in & higher sales-price OR lower trade-in & lower sales-price.

What does matter is the final price, right??

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-27-2012, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng

It's either higher trade-in & higher sales-price OR lower trade-in & lower sales-price.

What does matter is the final price, right??

They're giving you 2k over on your trade because your car is very rare... they can still budge on the price of the Z. But if you have been making your frustration as obvious to them as much as you show us??? They won't budge on the price. But if they think you have decided on something else... they may strive to give you at least $750-1000 off msrp.
If not? At least get your accessories and oil changes free... point is, you can still get more.

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-27-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sceptre155

Drove a Z this morning. The shifting is awesome. I liked everything except the stereo. What a piece of crap. Can always swap that out I suppose. Dealer in CT had 3 nismo's. One was a 2011 and he only dropped 3800 off the msrp. I would have thought they could have done better. What's people pAying for their Z's compared to the msrp??

Yeap... no matter which stereo you choose for the Z. Its a real POS. Lol. Base+sport is a must for audiophiles.

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sceptre155 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ithaca,NY Posts: 67 Drives: Ford Raptor Rep Power: 14	Drove a Z this morning. The shifting is awesome. I liked everything except the stereo. What a piece of crap. Can always swap that out I suppose. Dealer in CT had 3 nismo's. One was a 2011 and he only dropped 3800 off the msrp. I would have thought they could have done better. What's people pAying for their Z's compared to the msrp??

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sceptre155 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ithaca,NY Posts: 67 Drives: Ford Raptor Rep Power: 14	It looks like the nismo for 2013 is exactly the same? other then a few options i dont care about. Is that true? i tried looking around but couldnt tell for sure.

02-26-2012, 08:34 AM	#6 (permalink)
sceptre155 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ithaca,NY Posts: 67 Drives: Ford Raptor Rep Power: 14	Thanks for the info guys. Looks like its not worth waiting for the 2013 to come out. I did see someone mention they added a oil cooler on the 2012 nismo? I'm not far away from the Watkins Glen Race track. But that's a once a year kinda thing. It's going to be more of a daily driver and back road rocket. I've been checking out the audio/video forums. Looks like plenty of info on upgrading to nav, backup camera etc... I may test drive a Mustang tomorrow... still undecided. If i did I'd be looking for a Laguna Seca model. 370z still looks better imo. The mustang interior pics i've seen look kinda blah to me also.

02-26-2012, 06:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
280z/300zx Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Nevada Posts: 689 Drives: 280z, 300zx, Vette Rep Power: 273	I know things have changed as Nissan is not really cranking out Z's anymore but I got both my 370z's for way under MSRP. In 2009 when the Z was just coming to dealers I special ordered my 09 touring sport yellow 6-speed. Got it for 500 under invoice. Sadly a year and a half later she was totaled and I replaced her with a 2010 Nismo. My Nismo had a sticker price of 45k. They had a 2500 dealer mark up for being a Nismo as well as charging extra for window tint, window etchings, door guards. It took 3 weeks of negotiating but I got the car for 35k and change. They kept telling me it's a Nismo and that it's a hot item but after 3weeks of not moving the car, with them also knowing I had a 800+ credit score and money to go with it they caved. If you aren't in a rush then time is on your side to get the deal you want. With regards to the mustang, it's hard to pass up. Superior in acceleration and just as good through the corners and typically cheaper to buy and easier to find. The only downside I see with them is that they are freaking everywhere. Every time I get an itch to even go check the 5.0 out I force myself to count how many mustangs I see on a simple 5mile drive. Usually it's 20+ and gets rid of my itch for a stang. Still, unless Nissan announces something in the next year or so about a 2014 Z that is drastically better I'm probably going to another car. I mean I'll still have my 280z and 300zx so it's all good

02-26-2012, 09:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
sceptre155 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ithaca,NY Posts: 67 Drives: Ford Raptor Rep Power: 14	Yeah, I'm not in a a hurry. The 302's are going for way more then msrp from what I hear online. Which is a no go for me. And the Gt500 with some options is close to 60k. At that price I can think of a few others I'd buy. Anyways... I'm ask around and see who really wants my money. I really like the pearl white. But black with some red racing stripes sound hot too.

02-27-2012, 06:13 AM	#11 (permalink)
sceptre155 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ithaca,NY Posts: 67 Drives: Ford Raptor Rep Power: 14	What's rare about yours? The color.?