In a dilemma (Z vs 2013 Genesis)
 

Hey guys, I hope you can help me out a bit here!

I am cross-shopping for my first sports car. As of now, I have my choices down to a 2012 370z and a 2013 Genesis Coupe 3.8! Whatever I get, I want to be happy with it for 4-5 years. Power-wise (on paper), the new Gen Coupe looks more powerful, but, nobody knows how it will stack up against a Z. I am ok with either a 2-seater or a 4-seater so that is not a deciding option. I just want a fun and nimble car that I will be happy with. I am not looking to start modding any time soon. What should I do? :(

Well look at it his way. The 1st gen Hyundai did 0-60 in like the mid 5 second range and was a 14 second 1/4 mile car. The 40 hp bump it got is not going to bring it down to the Z's times which are 0-60 under 5 seconds and 1/4 mile of mid to low 13's. I also think the Z looks 10 times better and I'm pretty sure will handle much better. Hyundai has done a great job with the car but in the end its Hyundai's first attempt at a RWD sports car and Nissan had been doing it for ummm going on 40+ years now.

No comparison in build quality and vehicle dynamics. Both Genesis models are excellent "first tries" at building up-market cars, but they still fall a little short.

The Gen Coupe is more of a competitor to the G coupe than the Z. Those two are much heavier and less nimble than a Z.

both are good cars, bang for buck the hyundai is a good deal. But the interior pieces are not as high quality as the Z. The Z looks like sex on wheels by comparison. I like the Hyundais, I thought abotu getting one as a daily driver, something like a sonata. Pretty neat cars.

I'd suggest test driving both and see whats right for you.

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Personally I vote Z for all stated reasons above.

For me its just a deal breaker when I have to say I drive or own a Hyundia vs Nissan 370z. Just saying a Nissan 370z rings sports car. The Hyundia just doesn't ring sport anything to me. Sorry Hyundia sounds just not right in a sports car world. I know its a S. Korean car but Hyundia puts my mind in Calcutta India trying to get around a sacred cow setting in the road....... :tiphat:

Also look at after sales service. Anyone can sell you a car, but it's how you're treated after the sale that I find matters much more. The reputation of my local Hyundai dealer is enough reason for me to not even test drive one.

Something else for you to think about.

Simple. It is either the sports car or the 4 seat compromise. What is more important to you. We all made our choice.

I love when people ask 370z guys what car they should get, like you don't already know what we are going to say. 370Z ftw!!! :tup:

Out of curiosity, why do people cross shop the Gen C and the 370Z? One is a sports car the other one is not. Anyway, the best suggestion anyone can give you is to test drive them both and experience first hand what each has to offer.

I came up wiht 3 reasons:

1. Same price range
2. Both appeal to younger (20-35) buyers looking for a sporty car. The definition of sporty can be subjective but I would call the gen coupe sporty (not a sports car however)
3. Similar power numbers

The kia/hyundai's look great on paper spec wise. See if you can get one for an extended test drive. Put a few hundred miles on it, then decide.

I've test driven both... More than a couple of times. The Hyundai always felt to me like a cheap version of the introductory 350z. When you drive the 370z it feels like a more solid car with an incredible for the price interior the VQ engine has won numerous awards! 370. My choice

I was interested in both, the Genesis and the Z. Test drove the Genesis and felt like I was really have to work it to wring some power from it. I also was really displeased with the lack of quality of the interior. I found the tranny to be a bit notchy as well.

The Z is just so much more refined. I really felt like I was in a sports car whe in sat in it. Interior quality is top notch and the power and was fantastic for having fun!

In the end, you really have to test drive them both to determine what's best for you.

Oh yeah, one more thing: Something I noticed that was REALLY prevalent int the gen coupe community is that they are all pulling of off the Hyundai badges in lieu of something else. That speaks VOLUMES to me.

The Z is in a league far above the Genesis. A quick drive in both cars should allow you to confirm this for yourself.

Hyundai has done a great job refining the Genesis, but the dynamic is still quite a ways off from the Z.

the 2012 Genesis coupes come in either a 2.0 liter turboed engine or a 3.8 v6 right?

I have owned a 350z and GC 3.8. Like others have said the Genesis is a great first try in the rwd car segment. Hyundai has an awesome warranty for the car as well. It's a bit quicker than the earlier 350 too. You can get the r spec model with Brembos for a pretty decent price.

The interior quality on them is lacking however. They are a bit heavy and aren't as nimble. Needless to say that I don't own a 370 yet but I do own a genesis coupe and can say it is a really nice car for the price. But if you can afford a Z I would go for it. The Z has heritage and you can really tell when you drive one.

The 370Z is pure sex! It is hot, loud, and rough!

Enuff said.

Not wanting to be mean or anything, but what do you mean by this?

one is a sports car and one is not.

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haha, but it's really that simple. :p

Its usually simple things that people make very difficult...you should know that by now. :icon17:

this is stupid. :ugh2: :icon17:

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oh wait, i shouldn't say "stupid." that might offend people.


this is f-ked up. :tup:

same thing :bowrofl:

Z vs Genesis
 

Ive sat in a Genesis coupe last fall. Nice car less power and comfy. BUT, it just didnt feel like a sports car. More like an upgraded Pontiac G6 coupe. Nice sporty and see em everywhere. With the Z , you feel it. When the tranny just downshifts, when accelerating, when parked. And you dont see Zs everywhere. That I like. As adaily driver the Genesis is probably more suited. But the Z is ina different iconic class. My 3 cents

Hmmmm... I guess I have to softball this one for you. How is he defining the term "sports car"? :p

So understanding someone's frame of reference is a bad thing? Shocker. :rolleyes:

I'm not sure what your situation is...

will back seats be something you want?

Are you an audiophile"

Are you going to mod?

What's most important to you from your driving experience?

You are talking numbers and times as a means to choosing your car? Are you a professional racer?
Do you make money from doing quarter mile runs that 10ths of a second are that important???

The Z is a much better car imho but the hyundai is very good too...
Don't let the 348hp fool you. Between the 2 cars the 274hp turbo gen will probably be the best buy on that side. The list of reasons why is too long to list. If you are considering a 3.8 na v6? I would just spend the cash and get a certified pre-owned G. Performance may match but your interior will be sooooo far ahead in quality you will laugh at the gen.
When you buy a 2.0 you are buying the realistic value of a gen. Mid 20's for a 274hp 275lb tq car that can be easily modified to 400hp with an auto transmission directly from a 430hp v8 genesis rspec. Or a newly revamped manual. The 2.0 weight is the equivalent to a Z and hyundai has most likelt fixed the old 2.0 flaws.

Going back to the Z. The Z is faster than any other "affordable"NA v6 and will most likely remain that way even after hyundai gets there 348hp on the street. The Z has a much higher mod potential buut... that mod potential is going to cost a pretty penny. Turbo is the best way to go on the Z and that's about a 15k investment once all is said and done. Handling the Z is far superior than the hyundai and even with the new tweaks... I doubt its long wheebase can change that.

Its your choice... but I would test drive both and throw the Scion FR-S and 2013 mustang GT. If you can afford about 10k extra to the Z. Go mustang BOSS 302. V8's are inherintly cheaper to mod and you get huge HP gains from simple mods.

the 370 is lighter and has MUCH better suspension geometry(SLA wishbone Vs Mac strut) and chassis design. So the Z will handle better and have higher potential for better handling with modification, and has to support less weight. but still drive both and see what you like. even with the new power figure, i still dont think it will be much, if any faster then a 370 power to weight ration wise

No it was just the part you highlighted to ask it. You had to have seen a sarcastic remark coming when you asked that. :icon17:

One more car to seriously check out... the EVO. I drove an evo on a TIGHT 360 degree donut highway exit at 75mph. Can't do that in my Z. 60mph is all I can do on a donut on a stock Z. And I'm basically drifting at that point... the EVO can manage that feat while planted.
But the Z still wins in my book in overall quality.

A used ipl is also a better car to cross shop... check it out. Sub 43k pricing on lightly used ipl's. Ipl's go for about 50-52k before TTL AND FEES.

Used Infiniti G37 in 75050 - Cars.com

Genesux. The End.

LOL :bowrofl::roflpuke2:

My buddy just got a Gen Coupe. He seems to like it, but I don't see the car giving him the allure my Z gives me at all. I still get chills driving my car after owning it a year. Something that made me feel kinda bad is when he threw a party the same day he got the car. Friends that were invited over expecting to see his new ride kept pointing mine out saying "Is that it? It's bad ***!" and he would laugh each time and say "No! The Hyundai!"

I see Genesis Coupes around a lot more, so they're fairly common. Not saying the 370z is super rare, but it definitely turns heads enough. I got a nod from a guy in an R8 once, and another time was told by a cop he thought my car was a Porsche (just passing conversation, I wasn't in trouble yet haha).

Maybe I'm being a bit sensationalist about it, but the car is just so damn awesome.

The one thing about the Genesis that appealed to me was the interior. It has a real eye catching style. The 370z interior is pretty bitchin too though.

I mean, you *are* asking in a 370z enthusiast community, so these answers are going to naturally be biased. If you're really that torn then you should test drive both.

The very first reply to your question said it best imo. Nissan has been designing sports cars for almost half a century, Hyundai is *just* emerging from the "budget" car manufacturer.

At the end of the day it's a Hyundai. Z has a legacy and history behind it. It looks better, sounds better, interior is better. I will go as far as saying a newer 350z like 07 and up looks better and also the Nismo 350z while be significantly cheaper. 370z is no brainer. Why not a roadster 370z?

If you want a car your grandparents will like get the Hyundai.