Sweet Spot

6MT · 02-15-2012, 09:59 PM

Hmm.... I thought the thread was NSFW when I saw the title.

Carry on.

gbrettin · 02-15-2012, 10:06 PM

Bah, I just push the pedal to the floor with VDC off. I get the expected results every time!

In all seriousness I have zero issues with mine. Maybe you just need to adjust to your thicker shoes?

DYNAZOR · 02-15-2012, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MrZ

I have a question. I have a 2009 CY 7AT. I have had the car since September and overall I love my Z and I am %110 satisfied with my choice vehicle and everything. But I have a question about the gas peddle. I have owned quite a few cars in my 26 years on this earth. This car being the first with a floor mounted gas peddle though. Anywho most days my Z is a blast to drive and some days more of a hassle. I have a certain pair of shoes i wear more because i have too because if I dont wear these shoes when i drive the car doesn't feel as responsive. When I take off the car is slow and the transmission shifts kinda jerky like. When I have on my driving shoes as I like to call them and my foot and is on the peddle a certain way it is all good i take off the transmisson shifts smooth and feels peppy. I give it gas and it responds no matter how fast or slow I am going. And if I dont have the driving shoes on then it is the exact opposite. Does anyone else have this problem and if so has anyone found a solution. And before anyone post about my car being an automatic or anything smart or rude like that I am seriously looking for an answer to a problem that is making it difficult to enjoy my Z everytime I drive it.

I've had a '12 370Z base/sport 7AT for about 10 days now, and I think I know exactly what you are talking about, because that's the way I was going to describe what I am experiencing so far, so you are not alone. I only wear either Skechers or sandals so I experience the symptom all the time. I was wondering if there were some kind of problem with the tranny but I think that maybe that's just the way it is with that trans' design. I'm thinking that maybe it has something to do with the variable valve timing/fuel squeezing goals. It might have even happened when I test drove another Z before I bought the car, but I'm just not sure. Anyway, I think I'll mention it to the dealer and ask him to let me drive a different one just to be sure it is a common condition.

alcheng · 02-16-2012, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrZ

I have a question. I have a 2009 CY 7AT. I have had the car since September and overall I love my Z and I am %110 satisfied with my choice vehicle and everything. But I have a question about the gas peddle. I have owned quite a few cars in my 26 years on this earth. This car being the first with a floor mounted gas peddle though. Anywho most days my Z is a blast to drive and some days more of a hassle. I have a certain pair of shoes i wear more because i have too because if I dont wear these shoes when i drive the car doesn't feel as responsive. When I take off the car is slow and the transmission shifts kinda jerky like. When I have on my driving shoes as I like to call them and my foot and is on the peddle a certain way it is all good i take off the transmisson shifts smooth and feels peppy. I give it gas and it responds no matter how fast or slow I am going. And if I dont have the driving shoes on then it is the exact opposite. Does anyone else have this problem and if so has anyone found a solution. And before anyone post about my car being an automatic or anything smart or rude like that I am seriously looking for an answer to a problem that is making it difficult to enjoy my Z everytime I drive it.

Were you wearing this when you say you cannot feel the gas pedal:

alcheng · 02-16-2012, 12:31 AM

Back to the topic, the thickness and the softness of the out-sole play a big role on the pedal-feel.

If you try a pair of racing shoes, thin and soft out-sole, you can feel then pedal very good thus you know how much you are pressing on it.

Then try a pair of running shoes, you'll lose at least 60% of the feel compare to the racing shoes, you can still feel some because the out-sole of the running shoes is soft.

Imagine wearing a pair of thick industrial gloves and a pair of latex gloves.

But the more you drive the faster you get used to it.

Just a matter of getting used to it.

MrZ · 02-16-2012, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by alcheng

Were you wearing this when you say you cannot feel the gas pedal:

How did you know lol

ImportConvert · 02-16-2012, 12:34 AM

Is it harder or easier to heel-toe in the 370Z because of the gas-pedal design?

I too wear certain shoes for driving. Piloti for me.

alcheng · 02-16-2012, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Is it harder or easier to heel-toe in the 370Z because of the gas-pedal design?

I too wear certain shoes for driving. Piloti for me.

The 350z gas pedal is not floor-mount, BMW is floor-mount and so does the 370z.

I use the forefoot to do heel-toe(left part on brake and right part on gas) on all those three cars, I found the condition is the distance between the gas&brake pedal, and the level or the two.

Again, it's a matter of taking time to get used to it.

ImportConvert · 02-16-2012, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alcheng

The 350z gas pedal is not floor-mount, BMW is floor-mount and so does the 370z.

I use the forefoot to do heel-toe(left part on brake and right part on gas) on all those three cars, I found the condition is the distance between the gas&brake pedal, and the level or the two.

Again, it's a matter of taking time to get used to it.

Only experience here is in a 'vette. I did not try to heel-toe the 370Z I test-drove. Wonder how they compare.

here is similar to how I heel-toe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sduMmQL1OVs

I lift my heel/pivot more than this guy, though. That is how I "begin" the maneuver, by fully taking my heel off the mat. That is the technique we were taught at Spring Mountain, so I stuck with it.

alcheng · 02-16-2012, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Only experience here is in a 'vette. I did not try to heel-toe the 370Z I test-drove. Wonder how they compare.

Looks like the gas-pedal on the vette is top-mount.

What I've heard, if you do use your toe on brake and heel on gas, then the floor mount gas pedal is better suitable.

I tried both myself when I first learn the concept and I chose using my forefoot to heel-toe eventually, that was when I was driving the BMW which is a floor mount gas pedal, I found it's easier than using my heel.

BTW, do you use your heel on the gas pedal when heel-toe??

ImportConvert · 02-16-2012, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alcheng

Looks like the gas-pedal on the vette is top-mount. BTW, do you use your heel on the gas pedal when heel-toe??

Sorry, I quick-edited on you.

1/2 my shoe stays on the brake, the heel comes up off the floorboard, I angle the foot at about 40-45*, and roll my ankle, blipping the accelerator with the "pad" on my Piloti driving shoe. This is how I was taught at Spring Mountain, and the shoes look like they were designed with it in mind.

We were taught we get a maximum of 3 blips before needing to re-position as the foot tends to slide off the brake. Side-pressure against the brake can help alleviate this.

I am sure there are many different ways to accomplish the same thing, but this is how I was taught.

kenchan · 02-16-2012, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Is it harder or easier to heel-toe in the 370Z because of the gas-pedal design?

I too wear certain shoes for driving. Piloti for me.

i do the side of foot blip on these 'organ' pedals as i call it. im use to this type since i had a MINI in the past. but in my Z i dont really need to since it can blip for me.

but even in my G with traditional pedals i use the side of foot to blip since im not going that fast on street in traffic anyways and just needs 4k or so of blip under normal braking. it's clumsy to swing your heel around under light braking.

Mt Tam I am · 02-16-2012, 10:23 AM

OP: You said This car being the first with a floor mounted gas peddle though.

Have you had hand controls prior to this? My Brother in law is in a wheel chair and drove his AT 300ZX for years this way.

If this is the case, you just might need practice, while gaining sensitivity.

kenchan · 02-16-2012, 10:27 AM

mt tam- i think he's talking about the pivot point...

Mt Tam I am · 02-16-2012, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

mt tam- i think he's talking about the pivot point...

Thank you.

02-15-2012, 09:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
6MT A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: ITU Zone 2 Posts: 22,459 Drives: Reliant Robin Rep Power: 1790	Hmm.... I thought the thread was NSFW when I saw the title. Carry on. __________________ Andrew 2009 370Z Sport/Touring 6MT sold 2013 Honda Civic Si coupe D/D

02-16-2012, 12:31 AM	#5 (permalink)
alcheng A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 28,894 Drives: 2011 ZR PW w/Clutch Rep Power: 418353	Back to the topic, the thickness and the softness of the out-sole play a big role on the pedal-feel. If you try a pair of racing shoes, thin and soft out-sole, you can feel then pedal very good thus you know how much you are pressing on it. Then try a pair of running shoes, you'll lose at least 60% of the feel compare to the racing shoes, you can still feel some because the out-sole of the running shoes is soft. Imagine wearing a pair of thick industrial gloves and a pair of latex gloves. But the more you drive the faster you get used to it. Just a matter of getting used to it. Last edited by alcheng; 02-16-2012 at 12:36 AM.

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Mt Tam I am A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: California Posts: 10,709 Drives: 370Z T/S/N 6MT & XKE Rep Power: 3843	OP: You said This car being the first with a floor mounted gas peddle though. Have you had hand controls prior to this? My Brother in law is in a wheel chair and drove his AT 300ZX for years this way. If this is the case, you just might need practice, while gaining sensitivity. __________________ "Does the carpet match the drapes? NO!!! I don't date bald women." Nissan Motorsports 34R Oil Cooler. Stillen CBE. Hotchkis Sport Sway Bars. KW Variant 3 Coilover System. Stillen Gen3 CAI. Michelin Pilot Super Sport. Stillen Brake Ducts. Carbotech™ XP10/XP8 Pads. Z1 Front Rotors. Z1 Stainless Brake Lines. Two degrees of camber

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gbrettin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Portage, MI Posts: 2,292 Drives: Tricycle Rep Power: 589151	Bah, I just push the pedal to the floor with VDC off. I get the expected results every time! In all seriousness I have zero issues with mine. Maybe you just need to adjust to your thicker shoes?

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	mt tam- i think he's talking about the pivot point...