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fairlady_Z 02-14-2012 05:18 PM

2009 370Z reliability
 
:) NOT BAD AT ALL...
Nissan 350Z / 370Z Reliability

nmjaxx9 02-14-2012 06:25 PM

Nissan makes quality products no doubt, but its funny they say the 2009 is that reliable yet the steering lock and rear hatch issues are so apparent.

KillerBee370 02-14-2012 08:17 PM

Had a the rear hatch stick a few times but never had a problem with the steering wheel lock. Or anything else for that matter.

sonic370 02-14-2012 08:20 PM

no problems so far here. just the latch it's been back twice to fix.
if thats the only problem i have with my 370 i can live with that.

LakeShow 02-14-2012 08:40 PM

Nissan hasn't recently stepped up their game and started to build quality cars with quality materials. I would say prior to 07 Nissan cars were very cheap and hard plastics. Now you step in a Maxima, a Murano, of course the Z you can feel quality materials. And from there the cars have become more reliable as they were known for many engine and mechanical issues.

Red__Zed 02-14-2012 08:43 PM

TD uses way too small of a sample size and their methods results in far too much sampling bias for them to have any meaning

sonic370 02-14-2012 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerBee370 (Post 1544316)
Had a the rear hatch stick a few times but never had a problem with the steering wheel lock. Or anything else for that matter.


Engine and drive train are vastly improved

UNKNOWN_370 02-14-2012 09:53 PM

This is the statistic I have used to stress my argument about the Z being reliable. JD powers or consumer reports say things for political reasons. They will call an adjustment a repair then say a car is unreliable in order to give a corporate sponsor a higher rating. True delta is right from the consumers at hand and I trust these statistics way more than any other. I subscribe and I hope all of you do too.
Funny how they say the hyundai genesis coupe is more reliable than our cars but if you look??? Repair numbers is in the 50's. So is the camaro and mustang. Ours is 6 out of 100 last year is was 4 out of a hundred. NOT BAD. We fall in line with miata for reliability. Awesome.

Red__Zed 02-14-2012 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1544511)
This is the statistic I have used to stress my argument about the Z being reliable. JD powers or consumer reports say things for political reasons. They will call an adjustment a repair then say a car is unreliable in order to give a corporate sponsor a higher rating. True delta is right from the consumers at hand and I trust these statistics way more than any other. I subscribe and I hope all of you do too.
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Sampling bias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sample size determination - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

6MT 02-14-2012 09:58 PM

Had mine since July 2009. Zero problems, zero issues, zero warranty problems.

Yeah, I'd say pretty reliable.

themann1984 02-14-2012 09:58 PM

This is worthless. Ask any statistician, estimates without confidence intervals are meaningless.

The 370Z is pure sex! It is hot, loud, and rough!

UNKNOWN_370 02-14-2012 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LakeShow (Post 1544353)
Nissan hasn't recently stepped up their game and started to build quality cars with quality materials. I would say prior to 07 Nissan cars were very cheap and hard plastics. Now you step in a Maxima, a Murano, of course the Z you can feel quality materials. And from there the cars have become more reliable as they were known for many engine and mechanical issues.

Prior to 07, only Honda had quality interiors in a non premium brand. Lol. Everybody sucked. It wasn't until the refreshed G35x was being called as great a handler as BMW that nissan decided to take quality more seriously. It was said the G35x had comparable handling but a way inferior interior like the whole nissan line. Maxima was the only model with a nice interior. When nissan did it and sales began increasing. Everone else jumped on the wagon. But honda was the only one for years that had quality interiors since the early 90's throughout the lineup. Minus a base civic in those days.

DrEvil 02-15-2012 07:59 AM

I've had mine for a year and a half, 19 k miles and zilch issuses. I had an annoying rubbing sound behind the drivers door that went away with some silicone spray.
:worship:

Vaughanabe13 02-15-2012 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DrEvil (Post 1544841)
I've had mine for a year and a half, 19 k miles and zilch issuses. I had an annoying rubbing sound behind the drivers door that went away with some silicone spray.
:worship:

What about the floormats though, did they start to wear out? I hope my Z doesn't start to falter.... :happydance:

m4a1mustang 02-15-2012 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vaughanabe13 (Post 1544891)
What about the floormats though, did they start to wear out? I hope my Z doesn't start to falter.... :happydance:

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl: Repped

KillerBee370 02-15-2012 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 1544450)
Engine and drive train are vastly improved

In what? A 7AT? I don't understand the need to change things that work just fine. I mean, I could understand if they wanted to add more power but I don't think they've done that have they?

I actually track my car which means I push it to it's limits and it's given me no problems in doing so. And what you're telling me is that Nissan has vastly improved, not just improved but VASTLY improved the engine and drive train for.... the 98% of the people that will never even realize any difference since they putz around on the street without any hard driving track use?

This doesn't make any sense to me. I mean I can understand wanting to give the press something new to write about but c'mon Nissan... :shakes head:


Edit: I don't drive the 7AT so if it was experiencing some sort of drive train problems, I didn't know it and that would be understandable.

Pharmacist 02-15-2012 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1544358)
TD uses way too small of a sample size and their methods results in far too much sampling bias for them to have any meaning

So? You're saying the Z is not reliable? Yes their sampling size is too small and might lead to sampling error. But that applies to all the cars on their site in the comparison. It's not impossible but highly unlikely that their estimates would be too far off.

Red__Zed 02-15-2012 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 1545212)
So? You're saying the Z is not reliable? Yes their sampling size is too small and might lead to sampling error. But that applies to all the cars on their site in the comparison. It's not impossible but highly unlikely that their estimates would be too far off.

No, i am saying the data is largely meaningless as a whole.

Spikuh 02-15-2012 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 1545212)
So? You're saying the Z is not reliable? Yes their sampling size is too small and might lead to sampling error. But that applies to all the cars on their site in the comparison. It's not impossible but highly unlikely that their estimates would be too far off.

Doubtful. He makes it pretty clear what he is saying:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1544358)
TD uses way too small of a sample size and their methods results in far too much sampling bias for them to have any meaning


To paraphrase a bit, the sample size is to small to be really meaningful. Nothing more, nothing less.

He never mentions or implies any reliability issues with the Z. And yes, I know he had tons of problems with his, but he makes no mention of it. He comments only on the sample size and the sampling methodology. Not the reliability of the Z.

m4a1mustang 02-15-2012 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Spikuh (Post 1545230)
Doubtful. He makes it pretty clear what he is saying:




To paraphrase a bit, the sample size is to small to be really meaningful. Nothing more, nothing less.

He never mentions or implies any reliability issues with the Z. And yes, I know he had tons of problems with his, but he makes no mention of it. He comments only on the sample size and the sampling methodology. Not the reliability of the Z.

:iagree:

Red__Zed 02-15-2012 11:58 AM

Beyond just the sample size, the data is self reported, which introduces a whole new set of errors...especially since the method of survey distribution is through enthusiast forums.


Sampling bias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pauly 02-29-2012 03:28 PM

i cant testify for the Z, but i can tell you that i will never own anything exept a nissan. i have had six, and the only one that had issues was a 1992 sentra 5 speed. i had a 92 maxima, which got the stink beat out of it, and i was smoking the tires on a launch when the tranny finally quit at 166,000 miles. i had a 1987 hardbody pickup (big red) that i drove through the river (hood deep), tore up the salty beach in it, ran over small trees in the woods, and drag raced everywhere. (also a 5 speed). couldnt kill it. 2007 frontier, 1997 maxima, and currently own two 2011 maximas, (one for the wife). i loved her car so much i bought one. i trust nissan and i have put a million miles on the road in nissan vehicles.

Vbp6US 02-29-2012 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vaughanabe13 (Post 1544891)
What about the floormats though, did they start to wear out? I hope my Z doesn't start to falter.... :happydance:

I get it. :bowrofl:

Vbp6US 02-29-2012 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pauly (Post 1573216)
i cant testify for the Z, but i can tell you that i will never own anything exept a nissan. i have had six, and the only one that had issues was a 1992 sentra 5 speed. i had a 92 maxima, which got the stink beat out of it, and i was smoking the tires on a launch when the tranny finally quit at 166,000 miles. i had a 1987 hardbody pickup (big red) that i drove through the river (hood deep), tore up the salty beach in it, ran over small trees in the woods, and drag raced everywhere. (also a 5 speed). couldnt kill it. 2007 frontier, 1997 maxima, and currently own two 2011 maximas, (one for the wife). i loved her car so much i bought one. i trust nissan and i have put a million miles on the road in nissan vehicles.

Brand loyalty. :ugh2: Jk. I think you could argue the same thing for Toyota.

nmjaxx9 02-29-2012 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pauly (Post 1573216)
i cant testify for the Z, but i can tell you that i will never own anything exept a nissan. i have had six, and the only one that had issues was a 1992 sentra 5 speed. i had a 92 maxima, which got the stink beat out of it, and i was smoking the tires on a launch when the tranny finally quit at 166,000 miles. i had a 1987 hardbody pickup (big red) that i drove through the river (hood deep), tore up the salty beach in it, ran over small trees in the woods, and drag raced everywhere. (also a 5 speed). couldnt kill it. 2007 frontier, 1997 maxima, and currently own two 2011 maximas, (one for the wife). i loved her car so much i bought one. i trust nissan and i have put a million miles on the road in nissan vehicles.

Wow, nice thats awesome, Nissan FTW! :tup:

cossie1600 02-29-2012 07:09 PM

I rate it average.

CC_370z 02-29-2012 08:02 PM

I rated it better than Ford. :wtf2:

nmjaxx9 02-29-2012 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC_370z (Post 1573853)
I rated it better than Ford. :wtf2:

:rofl2:

ImportConvert 02-29-2012 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1545225)
No, i am saying the data is largely meaningless as a whole.

As a direct comparison, though, it is very meaningful.

ImportConvert 02-29-2012 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vbp6US (Post 1573299)
Brand loyalty. :ugh2: Jk. I think you could argue the same thing for Toyota.

Or Ford. My Dad would usually get about 200K miles out of his Fords before they needed much of anything. This is after the police department put 70K miles on them, and they usually needed a new transmission from that, out of the gate.

What impressed me about my first Nissan product is that EVERYTHING in the vehicle worked. AC, radio, power seats, etc. After a decade, it all still worked. I have never owned an American car that can lay claim to that at that age.

m4a1mustang 02-29-2012 10:32 PM

All of my family's imports and domestics have been equally reliable. Ford, GM, Chrysler, Nissan, and Honda. Imagine that. Everything still works on them too.

ImportConvert 02-29-2012 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1574217)
All of my family's imports and domestics have been equally reliable. Ford, GM, Chrysler, Nissan, and Honda. Imagine that. Everything still works on them too.

They never owned a Taurus or G20 I bet, lol


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