Ester/Dino/Synthetic Oil - Your usage.

cab83_750 · 05-27-2009, 11:31 PM

OK. I did my search button and no prior post.

Anyway, what is your current oil usage? (1 qt/1000 miles? .5 qt/200 miles?). If your car is not using oil at all, let us know also.

I am also wondering if Nissan ester oil tends to burn quicker than dino or synthetic.

Thanks.

AK370Z · 05-27-2009, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cab83_750

Anyway, what is your current oil usage? (1 qt/1000 miles? .5 qt/200 miles?). If your car is not using oil at all, let us know also.

us? are you from a research team?

Break in period OEM oil (0-2000 miles): added 1/4 quart.

Nissan Ester oil (2001-3700): NO oil burning. No oil added.

Redline Synthetic Oil : (3700- till date) : Absolute no oil burning. Car runs smooth!

travisjb · 05-27-2009, 11:41 PM

I run without oil - sponsored by Darpa

AK370Z · 05-27-2009, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by travisjb

I run without oil

travisjb · 05-27-2009, 11:44 PM

honestly, will be switching from nissan ester oil to Motul 300V 15w50 this week... at about 1,000 miles on motor + 2 track days

travisjb · 05-27-2009, 11:47 PM

FYI, from Motul...
Motul 300V Competition 15W50 Motor OilMotul 300V Competition motor oil is a 100% synthetic formulation specifically designed for motorsports use. Its Double Ester Technology increases engine power and reliability. Motul 300V exceeds existing motor oil standards.
* High lubrication properties => Anti wear protection above existing standards
* Friction modifiers => Maximum power output
* 0% shear loss => Perfectly stable oil pressure
* Enhanced oxidation's stability => Extremely high temperature resistance

AK370Z · 05-27-2009, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travisjb

honestly, will be switching from nissan ester oil to Motul 300V 15w50 this week... at about 1,000 miles on motor + 2 track days

What happen to your motor?

travisjb · 05-28-2009, 12:00 AM

I put 1,000 miles on it ! ...

okay... lines weren't connected, oil spilled upon highway, engine seized... bad story... but all is good now !

leepeen · 05-28-2009, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travisjb

FYI, from Motul...
Motul 300V Competition 15W50 Motor OilMotul 300V Competition motor oil is a 100% synthetic formulation specifically designed for motorsports use. Its Double Ester Technology increases engine power and reliability. Motul 300V exceeds existing motor oil standards.
* High lubrication properties => Anti wear protection above existing standards
* Friction modifiers => Maximum power output
* 0% shear loss => Perfectly stable oil pressure
* Enhanced oxidation's stability => Extremely high temperature resistance

I thought i have to stick to standard thickness oil(5w-30)

Omg...15w-50 ?? is that suitable to VQ37 engine?

what's the advantage if i use 15W-50 on non-oil cooler
installed Zs' like mine? Will it lower the oil temperature?

Old Chuck · 05-28-2009, 06:52 AM

The answer about going to 15-50 is not a simple one however, there are times when a thicker oil may not be the best as a thinner oil may get into places that a thicker oil may not. If the oil does not lubricate then wear occurs fast. Not sure about the Nissan engine and its needs. A thinner oil may shear easier but that is not always the case across various manufacturers. I will leave this to those who know the internal components of the engine better then I. However, as I said, this is not a simple answer and will require extensive knowledge of the needs of this specific engine.

nogoodname · 05-28-2009, 08:13 AM

Thinner oil such as synthetics are useful here because the engine starts easier in the winters.

wstar · 05-28-2009, 08:57 AM

Well I can't speak for travis, but I imagine he's going 15W50 because it's not a daily driver, and sees hard track use when it is driven. The 15W50 won't be quite as ideal on cold start as say 5W30 or other lighter weights, but it's going to stand up to high-temp abuse better. The whole cold start protection thing matters more to us daily drivers since we do a lot more starts-per-mile, so to speak.

o0javi0o · 05-28-2009, 09:48 AM

Getting back to main topic, I am running 800mi/qt aprox. using Royal Purple 10w-30.
2007 Nissan 350z. I haven't experienced any problem using 10w-30 and I've been using it since my very first oil change after 3700 OEM miles.

ZforMe · 05-28-2009, 10:19 AM

You have to add a quart every 800 miles???

ChrisSlicks · 05-28-2009, 10:30 AM

I had to add about 1/2 a quart after 800 miles, oil burning stopped after that.

05-27-2009, 11:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
cab83_750 Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 887 Drives: 09 NISSAN 370Z Rep Power: 417	Ester/Dino/Synthetic Oil - Your usage. OK. I did my search button and no prior post. Anyway, what is your current oil usage? (1 qt/1000 miles? .5 qt/200 miles?). If your car is not using oil at all, let us know also. I am also wondering if Nissan ester oil tends to burn quicker than dino or synthetic. Thanks.

05-27-2009, 11:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	I run without oil - sponsored by Darpa __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

05-27-2009, 11:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	honestly, will be switching from nissan ester oil to Motul 300V 15w50 this week... at about 1,000 miles on motor + 2 track days __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

05-27-2009, 11:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	FYI, from Motul... Motul 300V Competition 15W50 Motor OilMotul 300V Competition motor oil is a 100% synthetic formulation specifically designed for motorsports use. Its Double Ester Technology increases engine power and reliability. Motul 300V exceeds existing motor oil standards. * High lubrication properties => Anti wear protection above existing standards * Friction modifiers => Maximum power output * 0% shear loss => Perfectly stable oil pressure * Enhanced oxidation's stability => Extremely high temperature resistance __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

05-28-2009, 12:00 AM	#8 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	I put 1,000 miles on it ! ... okay... lines weren't connected, oil spilled upon highway, engine seized... bad story... but all is good now ! __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

05-28-2009, 06:52 AM	#10 (permalink)
Old Chuck Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida & SC Posts: 86 Drives: 05 Tundra& 02 Subaru Rep Power: 16	Leepeen The answer about going to 15-50 is not a simple one however, there are times when a thicker oil may not be the best as a thinner oil may get into places that a thicker oil may not. If the oil does not lubricate then wear occurs fast. Not sure about the Nissan engine and its needs. A thinner oil may shear easier but that is not always the case across various manufacturers. I will leave this to those who know the internal components of the engine better then I. However, as I said, this is not a simple answer and will require extensive knowledge of the needs of this specific engine.

05-28-2009, 08:13 AM	#11 (permalink)
nogoodname Lifetime Premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 22,357 Drives: E46 M3 Rep Power: 1764	Thinner oil such as synthetics are useful here because the engine starts easier in the winters.

05-28-2009, 08:57 AM	#12 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	Well I can't speak for travis, but I imagine he's going 15W50 because it's not a daily driver, and sees hard track use when it is driven. The 15W50 won't be quite as ideal on cold start as say 5W30 or other lighter weights, but it's going to stand up to high-temp abuse better. The whole cold start protection thing matters more to us daily drivers since we do a lot more starts-per-mile, so to speak. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

05-28-2009, 09:48 AM	#13 (permalink)
o0javi0o Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 458 Drives: '15 ///M3 6MT Rep Power: 16	Getting back to main topic, I am running 800mi/qt aprox. using Royal Purple 10w-30. 2007 Nissan 350z. I haven't experienced any problem using 10w-30 and I've been using it since my very first oil change after 3700 OEM miles.

05-28-2009, 10:19 AM	#14 (permalink)
ZforMe Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Memphis TN Posts: 238 Drives: 370Z Sport Auto PG Rep Power: 16	You have to add a quart every 800 miles??? __________________ 13.369 @ 102.73 Bone Stock. BERK HFC's installed 5/14/09 @ 1490miles, 13.212 @ 106.15. Cobb Post MAF Hoses installed 3/20/10 @ 5,043miles, future: FI exhaust with 18" res and s/s cans.

05-28-2009, 10:30 AM	#15 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	I had to add about 1/2 a quart after 800 miles, oil burning stopped after that.

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