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AlanManouk 02-09-2012 06:20 PM

5.0 or 370z?
 
hi i know we all here are Z enthusiasts. I love them and will choose them almost over any car in its price range. I wasnt a big fan of american muscle until about a year or so ago. I'm fascinated with what you get for 30-35k in 5.0 gt mustang. 414hp and of course more room. Then again it is a ford/american car and lacks a lot of reliability. I'm planning on buying a car soon and wondering what you guys would recommend thanks!

Red__Zed 02-09-2012 06:25 PM

I think you will find that comparing these cars is not encouraged on this forum, unfortunately.


Some info available here: http://www.the370z.com/other-vehicles/42696-5-0-a.html
and here:
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...ni-jcw-feature

I don't believe reliability should really be a concern. Ford has done a great job in theist couple years in terms of reliability.

r1eater 02-09-2012 07:09 PM

Super nice car especially the 2013 they are releasing early next month. It has the cobra front end. I looked at the 5.0 too they are no slouch but for me the fit and finish of the 370 wins hands down. Also toe the 370 is just sexier.

TerribleONE 02-09-2012 07:11 PM

370Z IMO... But I may be biased :)

m4a1mustang 02-09-2012 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1535580)
I think you will find that comparing these cars is not encouraged on this forum, unfortunately.


Some info available here: http://www.the370z.com/other-vehicles/42696-5-0-a.html


I don't believe reliability should really be a concern. Ford has done a great job in theist couple years in terms of reliability.

:iagree: expect your thread to get locked.

gomer_110 02-09-2012 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1535580)
I don't believe reliability should really be a concern. Ford has done a great job in theist couple years in terms of reliability.

:iagree:

Used to have the same opinion as the OP but after driving a number of Ford rental cars over the last few years I've got to say they got sh1t together.

The Z is still a much sexier car than the mustang though (and not as common).

shadoquad 02-09-2012 07:41 PM

Z is slightly more svelt, looks prettier, and handles marginally better.

The Fiord is much faster in a straight line and can hang in the corners. Plus it has a back seat.

It's all preference. I say test drive both!

And it's not frowned on to compare the cars. It does tend to get out of hand, though.

Spikuh 02-09-2012 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1535716)
Z is slightly more svelt, looks prettier, and handles marginally better.

The Fiord is much faster in a straight line and can hang in the corners. Plus it has a back seat.

It's all preference. I say test drive both!

And it's not frowned on to compare the cars. It does tend to get out of hand, though.

This is pretty much my opinion as well. I have a Z, my brother has the previous model GT (the 4.3) and both are solid vehicles. The new 5.0 is an improvement of the old model so it will come down to preference.

Best thing you can do is test drive both a few times, think about your life needs and pick your flavor. You will be satisfied no matter which way you go so long as you do your homework. :tup:

Red__Zed 02-09-2012 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1535716)

And it's not frowned on to compare the cars. It does tend to get out of hand, though.

Didn't realize you had been reading my PM inbox. The 5.0 is getting the same treatment the Genesis got circa 09, all threads locked regardless of how they go:ugh2:

frost 02-09-2012 08:37 PM

Lots of info on this already.

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ang-5-0-a.html

http://www.the370z.com/other-vehicles/42696-5-0-a.html

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ang-5-0-a.html

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...370-5-0-a.html

Just for starters.

One_Quick_Z 02-09-2012 08:42 PM

IBL



YAY!


Get a 5.0..... 370Z's are way overrated :)







DAN

awkwardturtle 02-09-2012 08:43 PM

In my eyes, the only reason to get the 370z is for a subjectively better looking car. If the Z wasn't such a fantastic looking car, I wouldn't even consider it against the mustang. I'm not sure how the two compare in handling, but I know the Mustang handles much better than most people suspect. Power obviously goes to the 'stang. Another thing to consider is that Mustangs are literally everywhere, 370zs aren't really all that common. To some, that's important.

Gunzero 02-09-2012 08:48 PM

5.0 hands down.

omgZ 02-09-2012 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by awkwardturtle (Post 1535834)
In my eyes, the only reason to get the 370z is for a subjectively better looking car. If the Z wasn't such a fantastic looking car, I wouldn't even consider it against the mustang. I'm not sure how the two compare in handling, but I know the Mustang handles much better than most people suspect. Power obviously goes to the 'stang. Another thing to consider is that Mustangs are literally everywhere, 370zs aren't really all that common. To some, that's important.

I agree 100%.

AlanManouk 02-09-2012 11:21 PM

I completely agree on the fact that you rarely see Zs compared to mustangs as they're all around. I've test driven the Z and loved it, I still have to give the 5.0 a drive. Two seats aren't the biggest factor as its the mustangs interior as far as seats and leather go seems to be a little more impressive for me. Idk its a very hard choice. Thanks for any of the help

r1eater 02-09-2012 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AlanManouk (Post 1536114)
I completely agree on the fact that you rarely see Zs compared to mustangs as they're all around. I've test driven the Z and loved it, I still have to give the 5.0 a drive. Two seats aren't the biggest factor as its the mustangs interior as far as seats and leather go seems to be a little more impressive for me. Idk its a very hard choice. Thanks for any of the help

just remember the 2013 5.0 is getting a hp bump aswell as a slight refresh in looks. I like the mustang and like someone else said it handles much better than most people think. Toss some springs on it and its even better. HP wise its a monster.

AlanManouk 02-10-2012 01:07 AM

Any idea when they come out and their price? i know they're supposed to come in spring but would it be late feb to march. I'm looking into getting into a new vehicle in the next 30-45 days i dont want to be paying full price for a 5.0 to find out a month later the 2013s are out. Also i heard some rumors about a price increase to a base 5.0 near 40k.

AlanManouk 02-10-2012 01:16 AM

Also anyone think the 2013 Zs are worth waiting for or anything? 2014 stangs are supposedly to be redesigned.

m4a1mustang 02-10-2012 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AlanManouk (Post 1536204)
Any idea when they come out and their price? i know they're supposed to come in spring but would it be late feb to march. I'm looking into getting into a new vehicle in the next 30-45 days i dont want to be paying full price for a 5.0 to find out a month later the 2013s are out. Also i heard some rumors about a price increase to a base 5.0 near 40k.

Base is no where near 40k and you can order a 13 now. They will be on the lots in Spring.

Spikuh 02-10-2012 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by AlanManouk (Post 1536208)
Also anyone think the 2013 Zs are worth waiting for or anything? 2014 stangs are supposedly to be redesigned.

The only "performance" change would be the suspension set-up. It is a European design now. Everything else is cosmetic changes.

IMO, its not worth waiting for, but I am also not a big fan of the new front bumper so take it with a grain of salt. I guess what I am saying is, if you have to pick between MY 12 and MY 13 for the Z, it is going to be based on looks and not any performance metric.

ZMan8 02-10-2012 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlanManouk (Post 1536204)
Any idea when they come out and their price? i know they're supposed to come in spring but would it be late feb to march. I'm looking into getting into a new vehicle in the next 30-45 days i dont want to be paying full price for a 5.0 to find out a month later the 2013s are out. Also i heard some rumors about a price increase to a base 5.0 near 40k.

40K doubt it, they can't serioiusly raise price by 10k.

gsxr750 02-10-2012 10:31 AM

Best thing to do is to drive all the american and japanese muscle and sports cars. I test drove all of them a few months ago and the standard base corvette blew everything out of the water. I almost bought a 2012 vette but it was damaged by detailers at delivery. I bought the 370z the next day $15K less that the vette.
Heres a summary of what I found after driving all the High Horse Power Muscle & Sports Cars.

1. Base model vette best overall performance appearance inside and out, poor reliabilty over the long run.
2. 370z better handling than the vette, great appearance and design, best reliabilty, more than enough power.
3. Camaro ss 430 hp best looks and appearance inside and out best power and handling of all the 3 muscle cars, back seat a real plus.
4. Dodge challenger rt 5.7 375hp manual, love the old challenger looks dodge nailed it on the outside, buy on the inside it looks like a work truck really plain, handling good in a straight line, it really didn't seem like it hade 375hp when driving it, more like 275hp.
5. Mustang GT, seemed a tie with the challenger, on the outside the mustang looks great, and on the inside it very boring or plain, performance a liitle better than the challenger. Then you have fords reliabilty issues.
6. Mazda RX8 , I really lliked this car in styling inside and out , it kind of reminds you of one of the old shelby cobras lemans hard top cars, ( not a mustange corba). Handling was also very good and the rotary engine reminded me of riding a 600cc sport bike , you can have a ball reving the engine to redline and shifting at 10k all day. Even with only 220hp it is surprizingly quick. Its to bad they don't make a 350 hp version of the RX8.
Then there is the connection to ford, I never really cared for fords, to many reliability issues.

ZMan8 02-10-2012 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsxr750 (Post 1536548)
Best thing to do is to drive all the american and japanese muscle and sports cars. I test drove all of them a few months ago and the standard base corvette blew everything out of the water. I almost bought a 2012 vette but it was damaged by detailers at delivery. I bought the 370z the next day $15K less that the vette.
Heres a summary of what I found after driving all the High Horse Power Muscle & Sports Cars.

1. Base model vette best overall performance appearance inside and out, poor reliabilty over the long run.
2. 370z better handling than the vette, great appearance and design, best reliabilty, more than enough power.
3. Camaro ss 430 hp best looks and appearance inside and out best power and handling of all the 3 muscle cars, back seat a real plus.
4. Dodge challenger rt 5.7 375hp manual, love the old challenger looks dodge nailed it on the outside, buy on the inside it looks like a work truck really plain, handling good in a straight line, it really didn't seem like it hade 375hp when driving it, more like 275hp.
5. Mustang GT, seemed a tie with the challenger, on the outside the mustang looks great, and on the inside it very boring or plain, performance a liitle better than the challenger. Then you have fords reliabilty issues.
6. Mazda RX8 , I really lliked this car in styling inside and out , it kind of reminds you of one of the old shelby cobras lemans hard top cars, ( not a mustange corba). Handling was also very good and the rotary engine reminded me of riding a 600cc sport bike , you can have a ball reving the engine to redline and shifting at 10k all day. Even with only 220hp it is surprizingly quick. Its to bad they don't make a 350 hp version of the RX8.
Then there is the connection to ford, I never really cared for fords, to many reliability issues.

As far as looks go I think it's a "to each his own" so its very subjective. The challenger felt slow becuase it weighs the most I think out of all of those!

Speedy 02-10-2012 12:37 PM

I was in the same boat a couple months back. I was looking for a daily driver replacement and since I already own a Dodge Challenger as a weekend toy, the Mustang popped up on my radar as an addition to the stable.

You get quite a bit for your money in the 5.0 and it has a lot of cool features. Power is pretty nice, but I found the manual trans sloppy in shifting and the auto sluggish. The auto has no manual shift options (bump shift or paddles) which disappointed me.

The Z actually feels a bit more peppy to me, but that's likely because it's a bit lighter, but I didn't drive them back to back so it's just from memory.

Visibility out of the Mustang was a bit better, and that 5.0L motor is nice and responds well to mods.

You do see a Mustang on every corner, but because of that they have a HUGE aftermarket support following. That's one thing I've struggled with on the Challenger. They're rare, and there's not a WHOLE lot of options on aftermarket parts and the parts that are available are $$. The Z looks to be the same.

Ultimately I ended up going with a Z. However, I think brand new it's a bit over priced. I found a very low mileage used model (2009 with 2900 miles) for $15K off the price of a new one.

I love the car. If the Mustang had paddles or bump shift I might have gone with it, but that was a deal breaker for me. The Challenger is a 6 speed manual, and I wanted an auto to drive to work in traffic, and found the paddle shifters the best of both worlds.

shadoquad 02-10-2012 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 1536876)
I'd respond to what your post is obviously implying, but that would be off topic and then someone would report me:rolleyes:

Your post is already off topic. Someone could already report this. :roflpuke2:

Trips 02-10-2012 02:29 PM

:iagree:


Op, WE have existing threads on this already


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