Surprise Z costs

m4a1mustang · 02-01-2012, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

well the issue was more about pointing out if one had prior obligations like a mortgage. that's a completely different picture than just owning or leasing an economical $35K car and paying some rent. i didnt think it was fair to the op telling him wat he can or can't buy. he can decide for himself wat's right for him (i hope it's a him.

). that was the intent of the post.

but in my world, car hobby starts from the house with garage, not the car.

i mean why have a nice car if you have to park it on the street or some apartment parking structure where wheels get stolen or doors keyed or watever that happens. if you have your own garage where you have access any time of the day, at least you can concentrate on the car, not fixing bs. i like progress, not rewinding to fix bs and waste time.

i dont have time for that. another reason why i have a backup steering lock already... i dont like down time.

and i had homemade pizza tonight.

charburgers and cheeze fries maybe friday.

hahaha

You could live in a gated apartment complex with controlled access

Works for me that my parents garage with all of my tools is only 30 mins away.

Bottom line is owning a home or renting should really have no bearing on whether or not you have a nice car.

mantella87 · 02-02-2012, 12:27 AM

Do what you want with your money. You can't take it with you when you die.

kenchan · 02-02-2012, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by nmjaxx9

glad someone shares the same thoughts. lol

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

You could live in a gated apartment complex with controlled access

Works for me that my parents garage with all of my tools is only 30 mins away.

yah, i lived in pretty upscale apartment complexes long time ago after college landing my first job 2200 miles away from home...was gated and had 2 levels of assigned parking garage. i rented 2 car spaces. long story short, it didnt work for me for my car hobby. i needed power, access to tools, and a wall to block off all the noise at night and most of these apartments loitering is not allowed in parking areas for safety.

i also had some arse kick the rear bumper leaving shoe marks, hand prints on the glass from people looking inside the car, bird crap?, valve caps stolen, no privacy while detailing the cars..

there were actually cars stolen from the parking garage too. and you'd think shitt like this dont happen in a nice gated community in a nicer part of town. wrong!

i had (still my buddies) friends about 30min away who owned a car repair shop i could use to do mods, but still, just not the same borrowing tools and space cause i didnt have the flexibility with time. not like i can hop on over there at midnight to start a coilover install just because i got back from a late flight biz trip.

i learned very quickly that if i wanted to really get into this hobby like i meant it, i'd want a nice garage of my own that i have access too 100% of the time.

so if someone was asking about the Z for overall operational cost to keep in mind, i think that's a valid question... smart for someone to do research especially if they are money conscious and just starting out. (how's that for getting back to topic? lol...

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KillerBee370 · 02-02-2012, 12:38 AM

Tires are the killer. I change my own brake pads and oil so there's not a whole lot else other than those damn tires!!

mantella87 · 02-02-2012, 12:42 AM

True kenchan, living in an apartment with a nice car is a serious pain in the ***. At times, almost more stress than it is worth. I live in a nice place, very nice part of town too. I also rent a private garage which helps a lot, but is nothing compared to having a real house garage/driveway (especially when I need to wash my car).

Mecinoid · 02-02-2012, 12:45 AM

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See what you did, ken? Epic derail. Now bring us some charburgers and cheese fries.

[/QUOTE]

Lol, Classic.

That made me smile .... Now, back to our regularly scheduled program. I love this place the sidebars are priceless.

Mecinoid · 02-02-2012, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Wow... what ever happened to judging people by content of character vs the order in his purchase of material possessions???? Lol... this is some ridiculous sh1t right here...lol.

You guys have a totally backwards respect measurement. I hope you guys are under 25??? Then there would be an excuse. What I respect from a person is the small things they do as far as being respectful, considerate and honorable people. I don't care if you own a mansion or a cardboard box??? If your heart is good and you are a good individual in the way you treat me and the people around you? I respect you. I don't care what a person drove or in what order they bought a bullsh1t material possesion. To me this whole theory here is bullsh1t... I'm actually a lil surprised by the names involved in this train of thought..... but to each his own.

I'm not taking it too seriously... were just mucking around right now. Enjoy the show.

m4a1mustang · 02-02-2012, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecinoid

I'm not taking it too seriously... were just mucking around right now. Enjoy the show.

Nikkolai · 02-02-2012, 08:46 AM

Do what I do: live in an apartment with attached garage.

SS66 · 02-02-2012, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

yah, im sure there are many reasons especially with this shittty economy. i think we'd want to give the op a break and let him think things through instead of telling him what he can or can't do.

that was the real reason for the post to red_zed.

I think something on you shrunk up a little? If you have a good job it is a buyers market. Plenty of foreclosures and homes on the market. Coupled that with low interest rates its buy buy buy. I agree the house etc. followed with some toys is good planning. I am sorry but their is no reason not to buy a house if you can afford it. More times than often it is good money spent over time. Right now we have a 15 year morgage at less than 3.5 percent. Crazy good! I think the original poster should look at something else. I do give them kudos for setting down and looking at overall cost. Very smart and honest assessment on his part.

kenchan · 02-02-2012, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SS66

I think something on you shrunk up a little? If you have a good job it is a buyers market. Plenty of foreclosures and homes on the market. Coupled that with low interest rates its buy buy buy. I agree the house etc. followed with some toys is good planning. I am sorry but their is no reason not to buy a house if you can afford it. More times than often it is good money spent over time. Right now we have a 15 year morgage at less than 3.5 percent. Crazy good! I think the original poster should look at something else. I do give them kudos for setting down and looking at overall cost. Very smart and honest assessment on his part.

I didn't want to sound like im preaching that's all.

obviously my way of life is different from others. I did however learned quite a bit along the way as I've already posted.

and I'm doing pretty good.

cossie1600 · 02-02-2012, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecinoid

Funny I traded in my Prius on my Z. LOL just couldn't handle everyone tailgating me while I was getting my 50 mpg to save $75-100 a month in gas. Now, I just half thottle it and look in my mirror and laugh. Guess I didn't make a very good Prius owner. I can relate why the felt the way they did ... So, I never tailgate a Prius or any car for that matter. I'm never in that much of a hurry. Plus, giving yourself a little distance stops rock chips to the front of your car.

They both have their own purpose, but the Z is definitely more expensive to run purely because of the tires. Average cars have tires that last 30K, you get 15K in the Z off the truck. There is also the transmission fluid and diff fluid change, but they are <$100

cossie1600 · 02-02-2012, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SS66

I think something on you shrunk up a little? If you have a good job it is a buyers market. Plenty of foreclosures and homes on the market. Coupled that with low interest rates its buy buy buy. I agree the house etc. followed with some toys is good planning. I am sorry but their is no reason not to buy a house if you can afford it. More times than often it is good money spent over time. Right now we have a 15 year morgage at less than 3.5 percent. Crazy good! I think the original poster should look at something else. I do give them kudos for setting down and looking at overall cost. Very smart and honest assessment on his part.

If you have 20% in down payment sure. If not, you are screwed.

SMJane_Again · 02-02-2012, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

If you have 20% in down payment sure. If not, you are screwed.

Cossie, you're exactly right. Home buying is a fine goal, but it certainly is not for everybody. Some markets have such a high cost of living that scraping together 20% is practically impossible. I'm fortunate enough that I got my home bought before lending tightened up, but the idea that started this thread derailment that I need to get a house before buying a car is preposterous.

OP, here's the thing. The only thing that matters when looking at a car is whether or not the purchase negatively affects the style you've grown accustomed to living in or the style you're prepared to live in. If it does to an extent that it makes you uncomfortable, hold off and look at the purchase at a later date. As the others have said, I respect you for looking hard at the numbers, that's the only way you'll truly know if you can afford it. Whatever you decide, good luck!

S.

Colbizle · 02-02-2012, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by awkwardturtle

I'm just trying to make sure I 100% understand the realities of paying for this car if I do decide to actually jump into one.

I've looked into the money-related stuff that I can see upfront (monthly payments, insurance, gas), all of which I'm ok with and could comfortably be paid. I keep noticing little things that I find are absurdly expensive for a car of this price, though (Granted, I've never owned a real sports car, so I have no idea what the norm is).

Right now I pay $30 for quality oil/filter to change my oil.. I see an oil change on this car is about $120. I'm assuming, although I admittedly haven't looked into it yet, that tires are outrageously expensive for this car and go quickly. What really caught my eye today, though, was someone mentioning replacing an O2 sensor at a cost of $500 for the sensor

(Recently replaced O2 sensor on my car = $120). It's seeming to me like OEM parts for this car (so far) are 4-5x more than what I pay for my car now. If that's the case, I'm not entirely sure I should be buying a car of this caliber right now.

So, just out of pure curiosity, have any of you guys had any mind-boggling maintenance/repairs on this car that you weren't expecting? I remember a while back seeing a nice used M3 at a local dealer and finding out that the owner traded it in for a cheap Honda because he couldn't afford the maintenance.. I don't want to be that guy!

Thanks

Hey nice to see another Minnesotan on here. I purchased my 370z last June. The only major problem I had was I ran over a nail about a month of owning the car and had to completely replace the back left tire. Cost me about $400 from tires plus.. As for the oil change my last oil change was $30 bucks.. I don't know where you got this $120 from but I do know people were talking about getting the more expensive oil which is around $90 which I heard is just recommended?

Anyways, Where are you looking at getting your Z from? I purchased mine at coon rapids nissan.

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02-02-2012, 12:27 AM	#62 (permalink)
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KillerBee370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: So Cal baby! Age: 51 Posts: 5,964 Drives: with passion Rep Power: 321	Tires are the killer. I change my own brake pads and oil so there's not a whole lot else other than those damn tires!!

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mantella87 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 590 Drives: 2011 Z34 MT Rep Power: 15	True kenchan, living in an apartment with a nice car is a serious pain in the ***. At times, almost more stress than it is worth. I live in a nice place, very nice part of town too. I also rent a private garage which helps a lot, but is nothing compared to having a real house garage/driveway (especially when I need to wash my car).

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Mecinoid Base Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Discovery Bay Posts: 234 Drives: 16 370Z Sport Wht S7 Rep Power: 6725	[QUOTE= See what you did, ken? Epic derail. Now bring us some charburgers and cheese fries. [/QUOTE] Lol, Classic. That made me smile .... Now, back to our regularly scheduled program. I love this place the sidebars are priceless.

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