Surprise Z costs

alcheng · 02-01-2012, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

in my book one would first buy a house with a garage. then buy the car(s), then buy parts to mod them and keep them going.

without a house and mortgage (or paid cash) it appears to me one skipped the critical step. ofcourse house isn't everything but i would respect someone with a house and civic vs apartment/renting a house and say a GTR or watever.

but again, that's just me.

So, does having a wife affect the credibility??

nmjaxx9 · 02-01-2012, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng

So, does having a wife affect the credibility??

sexZness · 02-01-2012, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng

So, does having a wife affect the credibility??

i think that decreases your credibility

Dwight Frye · 02-01-2012, 06:47 PM

An oil change with Redline 5W-30 and a Mobil 1 110 size filter costs me about $85-90 for materials and a half hour of time. I go 5K between changes. I had to replace the original 19" Potenzas at 18K miles to the tune of about $1700. (Replaced with Michelin Pilot Super Sports which hopefully will go at least 25K miles...)
Also changed the air filters at 15K miles myself, cost was about $25-30. The car has 22K miles now and has not seen dealer service yet. Maybe will have the transmission and rear end oils changed by the dealer when the maintenance schedule calls for it, and I may even do that myself. It's not a cheap car to own nor maintain. It's a thoroughbred sports car, deal with it and enjoy it and don't whine. You'll enjoy it.

kenchan · 02-01-2012, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng

So, does having a wife affect the credibility??

im not sure...

cossie1600 · 02-01-2012, 08:08 PM

I bought my Prius and my Z around the same time. I have 4x the mileage on the Prius, yet I think they cost as much running because they have two different purpose. The tire cost is a killer on the Z. The stupid oil cooler/trailer hitch cost more than what my tires and oil changes and all other maintenance combined on the Prius.

Mecinoid · 02-01-2012, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Generally I'd agree with you, but there are plenty of reasons not to buy a house. I know the "American Dream" and all says everyone MUST BUY A HAUS, but it's not always the best option for everybody.

Not so sure a house is a great investment right now. If they start going back up in price then.... step in. Otherwise, why ride the rollercoaster down. Not sure the ride is over yet.

This comes from someone that owns a house... out of work and has to stay working in his area because to sell his house in a bad market would be a poor move. I know it's relative... But, selling and not having enough left for a down after real estate commisions etc... is killing Americas ability to adjust to the circumstances we are in.

I mean, I'd take a job and live in Oklahoma and live for a lot less than Cali if I had a chance. I'm stuck fighting for the last scraps here in Cali and it isn't any fun I'm telling you.

Mecinoid · 02-01-2012, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

I bought my Prius and my Z around the same time. I have 4x the mileage on the Prius, yet I think they cost as much running because they have two different purpose. The tire cost is a killer on the Z. The stupid oil cooler/trailer hitch cost more than what my tires and oil changes and all other maintenance combined on the Prius.

Funny I traded in my Prius on my Z. LOL just couldn't handle everyone tailgating me while I was getting my 50 mpg to save $75-100 a month in gas. Now, I just half thottle it and look in my mirror and laugh. Guess I didn't make a very good Prius owner. I can relate why the felt the way they did ... So, I never tailgate a Prius or any car for that matter. I'm never in that much of a hurry. Plus, giving yourself a little distance stops rock chips to the front of your car.

m4a1mustang · 02-01-2012, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecinoid

Not so sure a house is a great investment right now. If they start going back up in price then.... step in. Otherwise, why ride the rollercoaster down. Not sure the ride is over yet.

This comes from someone that owns a house... out of work and has to stay working in his area because to sell his house in a bad market would be a poor move. I know it's relative... But, selling and not having enough left for a down after real estate commisions etc... is killing Americas ability to adjust to the circumstances we are in.

I mean, I'd take a job and live in Oklahoma and live for a lot less than Cali if I had a chance. I'm stuck fighting for the last scraps here in Cali and it isn't any fun I'm telling you.

This is definitely a tough market. Housing prices are only one of the reasons why it might not be a good time to buy. Are you sure that the market has bottomed? There's a glut of inventory on the market right now and they keep building new homes... are prices going to rise anytime soon? Might they even fall further?

And like in your situation, you don't want to be tied down to a certain area because you can't sell your house. There are a lot of people that would be able to get a job in another city or state but they can't because their home has anchored them and they can't afford to put it up for a firesale.

And there are people who might be fresh in their career and don't know if they are going to stay in their particular location for long. If I think I'm only going to be in DC for a few years buying a home might not be worth the risk.

Then of course there are people who are perfectly content with the apartment lifestyle. They don't want to be responsible for their own maintenance. Maybe they want to live close to where they work and buying a house that close to the city is just not in the cards financially. As an example, if I wanted to buy a house in the same area where I rent, my mortage would be double what my rent is. I don't want to take on that burden, especially if I am not comfortable with the housing market right now and if I am not even sure if I'll be in this area in the next 5 years.

There are plenty of reasons not to buy a house, just like there are plenty of reasons to buy one. So there's really no right or wrong answer and whether you own a home or not certainly lends nothing to your "credibility" as an "adult."

See what you did, ken? Epic derail. Now bring us some charburgers and cheese fries.

waaaasabi · 02-01-2012, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

And like in your situation, you don't want to be tied down to a certain area because you can't sell your house. There are a lot of people that would be able to get a job in another city or state but they can't because their home has anchored them and they can't afford to put it up for a firesale.

And there are people who might be fresh in their career and don't know if they are going to stay in their particular location for long.

Also, if you are in witness protection or have a stalker/stalkers (like moi), you probably don't want to buy a house and settle down in one area for too long

m4a1mustang · 02-01-2012, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by waaaasabi

Also, if you are in witness protection or have a stalker/stalkers (like moi), you probably don't want to buy a house and settle down in one area for too long

Great point.

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-01-2012, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

in my book one would first buy a house with a garage. then buy the car(s), then buy parts to mod them and keep them going.

without a house and mortgage (or paid cash) it appears to me one skipped the critical step. ofcourse house isn't everything but i would respect someone with a house and civic vs apartment/renting a house and say a GTR or watever.

but again, that's just me.

Wow... what ever happened to judging people by content of character vs the order in his purchase of material possessions???? Lol... this is some ridiculous sh1t right here...lol.

You guys have a totally backwards respect measurement. I hope you guys are under 25??? Then there would be an excuse. What I respect from a person is the small things they do as far as being respectful, considerate and honorable people. I don't care if you own a mansion or a cardboard box??? If your heart is good and you are a good individual in the way you treat me and the people around you? I respect you. I don't care what a person drove or in what order they bought a bullsh1t material possesion. To me this whole theory here is bullsh1t... I'm actually a lil surprised by the names involved in this train of thought..... but to each his own.

kenchan · 02-01-2012, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

There are plenty of reasons not to buy a house, just like there are plenty of reasons to buy one. So there's really no right or wrong answer and whether you own a home or not certainly lends nothing to your "credibility" as an "adult."

See what you did, ken? Epic derail. Now bring us some charburgers and cheese fries.

well the issue was more about pointing out if one had prior obligations like a mortgage. that's a completely different picture than just owning or leasing an economical $35K car and paying some rent. i didnt think it was fair to the op telling him wat he can or can't buy. he can decide for himself wat's right for him (i hope it's a him.

). that was the intent of the post.

but in my world, car hobby starts from the house with garage, not the car.

i mean why have a nice car if you have to park it on the street or some apartment parking structure where wheels get stolen or doors keyed or watever that happens. if you have your own garage where you have access any time of the day, at least you can concentrate on the car, not fixing bs. i like progress, not rewinding to fix bs and waste time.

i dont have time for that. another reason why i have a backup steering lock already... i dont like down time.

and i had homemade pizza tonight.

charburgers and cheeze fries maybe friday.

hahaha

kenchan · 02-01-2012, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Wow... what ever happened to judging people by content of character vs the order in his purchase of material possessions???? Lol... this is some ridiculous sh1t right here...lol.

You guys have a totally backwards respect measurement. I hope you guys are under 25??? Then there would be an excuse. What I respect from a person is the small things they do as far as being respectful, considerate and honorable people. I don't care if you own a mansion or a cardboard box??? If your heart is good and you are a good individual in the way you treat me and the people around you? I respect you. I don't care what a person drove or in what order they bought a bullsh1t material possesion. To me this whole theory here is bullsh1t... I'm actually a lil surprised by the names involved in this train of thought..... but to each his own.

hey weren't you the one that said our cars were non-aspirating? lol

here:
370 and 350

nmjaxx9 · 02-01-2012, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

well the issue was more about pointing out if one had prior obligations like a mortgage. that's a completely different picture than just owning or leasing an economical $35K car and paying some rent. i didnt think it was fair to the op telling him wat he can or can't buy. he can decide for himself wat's right for him (i hope it's a him.

). that was the intent of the post.

but in my world, car hobby starts from the house with garage, not the car.

i mean why have a nice car if you have to park it on the street or some apartment parking structure where wheels get stolen or doors keyed or watever that happens. if you have your own garage where you have access any time of the day, at least you can concentrate on the car, not fixing bs. i like progress, not rewinding to fix bs and waste time.

i dont have time for that. another reason why i have a backup steering lock already... i dont like down time.

and i had homemade pizza tonight.

charburgers and cheeze fries maybe friday.

hahaha

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02-01-2012, 06:47 PM	#49 (permalink)
Dwight Frye Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Occupied California Posts: 423 Drives: '09 Tour/Sport/6MT Rep Power: 16	An oil change with Redline 5W-30 and a Mobil 1 110 size filter costs me about $85-90 for materials and a half hour of time. I go 5K between changes. I had to replace the original 19" Potenzas at 18K miles to the tune of about $1700. (Replaced with Michelin Pilot Super Sports which hopefully will go at least 25K miles...) Also changed the air filters at 15K miles myself, cost was about $25-30. The car has 22K miles now and has not seen dealer service yet. Maybe will have the transmission and rear end oils changed by the dealer when the maintenance schedule calls for it, and I may even do that myself. It's not a cheap car to own nor maintain. It's a thoroughbred sports car, deal with it and enjoy it and don't whine. You'll enjoy it.

02-01-2012, 08:08 PM	#51 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	I bought my Prius and my Z around the same time. I have 4x the mileage on the Prius, yet I think they cost as much running because they have two different purpose. The tire cost is a killer on the Z. The stupid oil cooler/trailer hitch cost more than what my tires and oil changes and all other maintenance combined on the Prius.