Surprise Z costs

m4a1mustang · 02-01-2012, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

aha! that's right, you live at your parent's place.

I rent an apartment, fool!

But really... I want to know the logic behind the house and credibility connection. What if he owned a house but was $200k underwater?

kenchan · 02-01-2012, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I rent an apartment, fool!

But really... I want to know the logic behind the house and credibility connection. What if he owned a house but was $200k underwater?

in my book one would first buy a house with a garage. then buy the car(s), then buy parts to mod them and keep them going.

without a house and mortgage (or paid cash) it appears to me one skipped the critical step. ofcourse house isn't everything but i would respect someone with a house and civic vs apartment/renting a house and say a GTR or watever.

but again, that's just me.

kenchan · 02-01-2012, 05:25 PM

btw, i dont mean that as a disrespect to you, mustang. im just saying credibility wise as an adult in general.

m4a1mustang · 02-01-2012, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

in my book one would first buy a house with a garage. then buy the car(s), then buy parts to mod them and keep them going.

without a house and mortgage (or paid cash) it appears to me one skipped the critical step. ofcourse house isn't everything but i would respect someone with a house and civic vs apartment/renting a house and say a GTR or watever.

but again, that's just me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

btw, i dont mean that as a disrespect to you, mustang. im just saying credibility wise as an adult in general.

Generally I'd agree with you, but there are plenty of reasons not to buy a house. I know the "American Dream" and all says everyone MUST BUY A HAUS, but it's not always the best option for everybody.

kenchan · 02-01-2012, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Generally I'd agree with you, but there are plenty of reasons not to buy a house. I know the "American Dream" and all says everyone MUST BUY A HAUS, but it's not always the best option for everybody.

yah, im sure there are many reasons especially with this shittty economy. i think we'd want to give the op a break and let him think things through instead of telling him what he can or can't do.

that was the real reason for the post to red_zed.

sexZness · 02-01-2012, 05:47 PM

wow, huge derail within a few hours

I do have to agree, though, that it's not always about owning or not owning a house to be able to be credible.

toxik · 02-01-2012, 05:48 PM

I remember when the rear buttsecks had to be replaced on my Z, that was the worst surprise cost ever.

sexZness · 02-01-2012, 05:49 PM

sup stranger

where've you been?

toxik · 02-01-2012, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexZness

sup stranger

where've you been?

saving up some load for the OG Reunion bukkake party!

sexZness · 02-01-2012, 05:52 PM

LOL you cheap ass

Guard Dad · 02-01-2012, 05:54 PM

My Z is a low mileage fun car not a daily driver. Oil changes are a bit expensive. If you buy OEM spec Bridgestone tires, yes, tires will be expensive too. Other quality tires are available for a lot less.

Ultra high performance cars (the Z squeaks into that classification) also depend on premium tires to deliver ultra high performance. Have you priced the tires on a Corvette Grand Sport, Z06 or ZR1? Our tires look cheap by comparison.

Interesting point of reference: The iconic mid eighties flat twelve Ferrari Testarossa Supercar did the 1/4 mile in the mid 13s, just like a 370Z, but it can't hang with the Z in braking or cornering and don't even ask about gas mileage.

The Z is a fantastic performance bargain but it does cost more to operate than a generic car.

Red__Zed · 02-01-2012, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

yah, im sure there are many reasons especially with this shittty economy. i think we'd want to give the op a break and let him think things through instead of telling him what he can or can't do.

that was the real reason for the post to red_zed.

I'm not telling him what to do, I think you read someone else's post....maybe these?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT

IMHO, stay away from the Z. Sounds like you can't afford it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

There are some more economical cars out there like the Civic, Elantra, Focus, etc. Super cheap to keep on the road.

On the house topic, I am far too geographically mobile to justify purchasing a house. I have a condo in one state and an apartment in another, and I sleep on a jet :|

Jeffblue · 02-01-2012, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Generally I'd agree with you, but there are plenty of reasons not to buy a house. I know the "American Dream" and all says everyone MUST BUY A HAUS, but it's not always the best option for everybody.

if you rented for the past few years, you're way better off than if you bought.

awkwardturtle · 02-01-2012, 06:01 PM

You know, based off these comments, nothing really sounds that bad. As a frame of reference

1) I already buy premium gas for my car, and I suspect when boosting enough (which I'm guilty of every single tank), I get around the same gas mileage as you guys (about 22-24 right now)

2) Tires are one thing I already expect to be pricey - I just spent $750 on summer tires/mounted on my car, and I would already suspect that a Z's tires would cost a bit more than that being larger/wider

3) Oil change doesn't sound so bad as I already buy 5qts of nice oil for my car now, I assumed for some unknown reason that everyone was dumping in that $16/qt oil

4) Mod prices for this car vs. my civic are surprisingly not that different. I made this comment on the civic forum a while ago when I noticed you guys have a lot of FI kits that cost less than what I paid to turbo my car. Of course, other things like exhausts cost 2x as much as a civic's does.. but mods are so extraneous that I wouldn't really worry about that

I've also been factoring in expenses on a brand new Nismo Z, which was looking like almost 40k from the dealer after TTL. Realistcally, if I do go with this car, I'm probably going to buy a used Sport or Sport/Touring closer to 25-30k since I can't even justify a Sport Z at 23, let alone a Nismo

Thanks for the input

sexZness · 02-01-2012, 06:07 PM

350Z... winning

02-01-2012, 05:47 PM	#36 (permalink)
sexZness A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 18,504 Drives: like it's stolen Rep Power: 108	wow, huge derail within a few hours I do have to agree, though, that it's not always about owning or not owning a house to be able to be credible. __________________ Clarification #1: I'm not a bro... [FONT="Garamond"]♥ Baby Zilla ♥ ~ Instagram: @SxZnS Forgestar \| FAST INTENTIONS \| Berk \| Injen \| H&R \| SPC \| Seibon \|

02-01-2012, 05:49 PM	#38 (permalink)
sexZness A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 18,504 Drives: like it's stolen Rep Power: 108	sup stranger where've you been? __________________ Clarification #1: I'm not a bro... [FONT="Garamond"]♥ Baby Zilla ♥ ~ Instagram: @SxZnS Forgestar \| FAST INTENTIONS \| Berk \| Injen \| H&R \| SPC \| Seibon \|

02-01-2012, 05:52 PM	#40 (permalink)
sexZness A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 18,504 Drives: like it's stolen Rep Power: 108	LOL you cheap ass __________________ Clarification #1: I'm not a bro... [FONT="Garamond"]♥ Baby Zilla ♥ ~ Instagram: @SxZnS Forgestar \| FAST INTENTIONS \| Berk \| Injen \| H&R \| SPC \| Seibon \|

02-01-2012, 05:54 PM	#41 (permalink)
Guard Dad Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: South Orange County, CA Posts: 422 Drives: 2010 370Z Silver A7 Rep Power: 15	My Z is a low mileage fun car not a daily driver. Oil changes are a bit expensive. If you buy OEM spec Bridgestone tires, yes, tires will be expensive too. Other quality tires are available for a lot less. Ultra high performance cars (the Z squeaks into that classification) also depend on premium tires to deliver ultra high performance. Have you priced the tires on a Corvette Grand Sport, Z06 or ZR1? Our tires look cheap by comparison. Interesting point of reference: The iconic mid eighties flat twelve Ferrari Testarossa Supercar did the 1/4 mile in the mid 13s, just like a 370Z, but it can't hang with the Z in braking or cornering and don't even ask about gas mileage. The Z is a fantastic performance bargain but it does cost more to operate than a generic car. __________________ 2010 Brilliant Silver, Base w/Sport Package, AT7, Katzkin leather, upgraded audio and lots of Dynamat and a bunch of small stuff.

02-01-2012, 06:07 PM	#45 (permalink)
sexZness A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 18,504 Drives: like it's stolen Rep Power: 108	350Z... winning __________________ Clarification #1: I'm not a bro... [FONT="Garamond"]♥ Baby Zilla ♥ ~ Instagram: @SxZnS Forgestar \| FAST INTENTIONS \| Berk \| Injen \| H&R \| SPC \| Seibon \|

02-01-2012, 05:25 PM	#33 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	btw, i dont mean that as a disrespect to you, mustang. im just saying credibility wise as an adult in general.

02-01-2012, 06:01 PM	#44 (permalink)
awkwardturtle Base Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: minnesota Posts: 98 Drives: 07 Civic SI Rep Power: 14	You know, based off these comments, nothing really sounds that bad. As a frame of reference 1) I already buy premium gas for my car, and I suspect when boosting enough (which I'm guilty of every single tank), I get around the same gas mileage as you guys (about 22-24 right now) 2) Tires are one thing I already expect to be pricey - I just spent $750 on summer tires/mounted on my car, and I would already suspect that a Z's tires would cost a bit more than that being larger/wider 3) Oil change doesn't sound so bad as I already buy 5qts of nice oil for my car now, I assumed for some unknown reason that everyone was dumping in that $16/qt oil 4) Mod prices for this car vs. my civic are surprisingly not that different. I made this comment on the civic forum a while ago when I noticed you guys have a lot of FI kits that cost less than what I paid to turbo my car. Of course, other things like exhausts cost 2x as much as a civic's does.. but mods are so extraneous that I wouldn't really worry about that I've also been factoring in expenses on a brand new Nismo Z, which was looking like almost 40k from the dealer after TTL. Realistcally, if I do go with this car, I'm probably going to buy a used Sport or Sport/Touring closer to 25-30k since I can't even justify a Sport Z at 23, let alone a Nismo Thanks for the input

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