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pyrrhus17 01-18-2012 09:38 PM

Why does best motoring hate the Z
 
I just discovered Best motoring on Youtube abd every one of the that has some form of 370 in the race it comes in dead last What the Hell?

Red__Zed 01-18-2012 09:42 PM

pardon?

edub370 01-18-2012 09:47 PM

completely agree

youtube it. they do kinda put it up agaisnt ridiculous competetion sometimes...


Best Motoring - [3/09] 370Z vs Cayman S vs 997 C2 vs 135i vs S2000 - YouTube

Best Motoring - Nismo 370Z vs TT RS vs Evo Ralliart vs Sti Spec C - YouTube


second one is a great example. the Z is set as a "traget car" for the others to run down... ironically enough its the ONLY na car on the track....

BigT 01-18-2012 09:52 PM

370z's are more of a GT type of car. (grand touring) Best Motoring definitely favors more "tuner" type cars like the Evo and STI. They are boyracers at heart. I don't class the Z as the boyracer type.

edub370 01-18-2012 10:01 PM

so do we take this target they have on our back as flattery or as they are putting us in our place?

Red__Zed 01-18-2012 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1497830)
completely agree

youtube it. they do kinda put it up agaisnt ridiculous competetion sometimes...


Best Motoring - [3/09] 370Z vs Cayman S vs 997 C2 vs 135i vs S2000 - YouTube

Best Motoring - Nismo 370Z vs TT RS vs Evo Ralliart vs Sti Spec C - YouTube


second one is a great example. the Z is set as a "traget car" for the others to run down... ironically enough its the ONLY na car on the track....

honestly, pretty favorable (fair at worst) presentation for the most part in their videos.

BigT 01-18-2012 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1497857)
so do we take this target they have on our back as flattery or as they are putting us in our place?

Good question. I've owned an evo 8 and evo X and can say that both are probably better track or time attack cars that the Z. What car would I rather drive everyday? The Z of course.

tsg-z 01-19-2012 12:29 AM

I think some see the combination of style/speed a benchmark they must eclipse. Unfortunately, the Z car is often times the target.

SPOHN 01-19-2012 06:48 AM

Like Jeff Gordon said one time, if your still getting cheers or boo's your ok, it's when no one is talking about you that you don't mean nothing. Something along that line.

m4a1mustang 01-19-2012 07:09 AM

I don't really see anything that would make me think they "hate" the 370Z? Are you just upset because it's not placing first in their little "races" or something?

kenchan 01-19-2012 07:23 AM

I thought they went out of business. Reason is clear. They entertain spec ricors. :stirthepot:

Alchemy 01-19-2012 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1497863)
honestly, pretty favorable (fair at worst) presentation for the most part in their videos.

Agreed. The OP said it comes in last in every race they test it. Seems to have done just fine in the first vid posted above.

m4a1mustang 01-19-2012 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1498235)
Agreed. The OP said it comes in last in every race they test it. Seems to have done just fine in the first vid posted above.

:iagree: I remember us talking about these videos years ago and we weren't upset about them at all. :icon17:

Alchemy 01-19-2012 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1498245)
:iagree: I remember us talking about these videos years ago and we weren't upset about them at all. :icon17:

:icon17:

edub370 01-19-2012 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1498200)
I don't really see anything that would make me think they "hate" the 370Z? Are you just upset because it's not placing first in their little "races" or something?

i think probably people get bummed to see that the car has been put up against a 911 gt3, ralliart tuned evo, nismo380rs superlaggera, subaru sti spec c's and things of that sort. they rarely get pinned against completely stock cars or rarely are in races when they aren't the least powerful car out there. don't get me wrong there are some, such as the race where it was against a 911, 135i, and s2000 in which it didnt finish first but i thought was an extremely fair race.

however, some of the race groups they have dont make sense.

m4a1mustang 01-19-2012 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1498248)
i think probably people get bummed to see that the car has been put up against a 911 gt3, ralliart tuned evo, nismo380rs superlaggera, subaru sti spec c's and things of that sort. they rarely get pinned against completely stock cars or rarely are in races when they aren't the least powerful car out there. don't get me wrong there are some, such as the race where it was against a 911, 135i, and s2000 in which it didnt finish first but i thought was an extremely fair race.

however, some of the race groups they have dont make sense.

It's TV.

Either way, I don't see anything wrong with the two videos referenced. The 370Z did well. There was no hate, IMO.

edub370 01-19-2012 07:55 AM

this is very true..

maybe we are ready to see a vid where we aren't the "target car" or something of that nature. ready to be the hunter not the hunted in other words :driving:

m4a1mustang 01-19-2012 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1498256)
this is very true..

maybe we are ready to see a vid where we aren't the "target car" or something of that nature. ready to be the hunter not the hunted in other words :driving:

They should do a video of the Z chasing down a Miata, BRZ, and FRS. :icon17:

edub370 01-19-2012 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1498261)
They should do a video of the Z chasing down a Miata, BRZ, and FRS. :icon17:


b-b-b-but they are lighter! And the sun was in our eyes, and we missed a shift... waaahhhh! :roflpuke2:

then have a v8 battle with the 5.0 against 458 italia, zr1, and arial atom 500 V8 :stirthepot:

Red__Zed 01-19-2012 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1498256)
this is very true..

maybe we are ready to see a vid where we aren't the "target car" or something of that nature. ready to be the hunter not the hunted in other words :driving:

See the videos vs the cayman (or the pre-2011 mustang). The z has just been around a while, it makes a pretty decent reference point.

m4a1mustang 01-19-2012 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1498267)
b-b-b-but they are lighter! And the sun was in our eyes, and we missed a shift... waaahhhh! :roflpuke2:

then have a v8 battle with the 5.0 against 458 italia, zr1, and arial atom 500 V8 :stirthepot:

458 catches fire, ZR1 spins off the road (driven by Clarkson), arial atom driver crashes because his passenger's Big Mac got stuck in his eyes, 5.0 wins. :bowrofl:

m4a1mustang 01-19-2012 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1498271)
See the videos vs the cayman (or the pre-2011 mustang). The z has just been around a while, it makes a pretty decent reference point.

:iagree:

bigsix 01-19-2012 09:04 AM

The Nismo does lose every race they put it in.

DOOMMONKEY777 01-19-2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bigsix (Post 1498318)
The Nismo does lose every race they put it in.

Hehe....Thats why i bought a Base w/ Sport its lighter, wheels are smaller less dragg and the body kit is slimmer less wind resistence..... see am smart LMAO :happydance:

Vince 01-19-2012 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DOOMMONKEY777 (Post 1498464)
Hehe....Thats why i bought a Base w/ Sport its lighter, wheels are smaller less dragg and the body kit is slimmer less wind resistence..... see am smart LMAO :happydance:

Hmm, the sport wheels are bigger than the non-sport wheels...

waaaasabi 01-19-2012 12:30 PM

It would be amusing to see BM do a spec-370Z race - all the people who take these videos too seriously would have their heads explode as they achieve the most perfect orgasm because the 370Z would be winning and losing simultaneously.

BigT 01-19-2012 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by waaaasabi (Post 1498598)
It would be amusing to see BM do a spec-370Z race - all the people who take these videos too seriously would have their heads explode as they achieve the most perfect orgasm because the 370Z would be winning and losing simultaneously.

LMAO :icon18:

pyrrhus17 01-19-2012 12:44 PM

I really didn't take the vids too seriously but did think the car was totally mismatched . The races would have been better had the Z's been tuned like most of the other cars but oh well . I would love to see some newer vids with say a gtm Z or stillen racing newer cars

edub370 01-19-2012 01:16 PM

like the vid of the amuse 370z against a 458 italia, zr1, and 360 modena... i mean common....

alcheng 01-19-2012 01:35 PM

The Best Motoring races are more for fun watching, who know how hard they were really doing during the 'race'.

No matter it's NISMO or Base, it can't be tracked hardcore cos the brake will fade after 3 laps. :shakes head:

Maybe that's why the Z was last place.

:driving:

UNKNOWN_370 01-19-2012 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigsix (Post 1498318)
The Nismo does lose every race they put it in.

NISMO's are only handling and aerodynamically modified. The tune on the NISMO is negligably better than the reg Z. Too many NISMO owners put there cars against well modified cars thinking their factory tune will do something. An intake and exhaust isn't going to get Z drivers monstrous gains. The real truth is... Z owners need to truly and honestly consider FI. An NA tune vs an FI tune is night and day. The Z is not an out the box sports car people percieve it to be. Its an OTB handler with enough power to make it more fun than the lesser powered competition. Ie miata, S2k and other 4bangers.

Forced Induction.

FL 4Motion 01-19-2012 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1498225)
I thought they went out of business. Reason is clear. They entertain spec ricors. :stirthepot:

best motoring=0
370z=1

:tup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1498712)
NISMO's are only handling and aerodynamically modified. The tune on the NISMO is negligably better than the reg Z. Too many NISMO owners put there cars against well modified cars thinking their factory tune will do something. An intake and exhaust isn't going to get Z drivers monstrous gains. The real truth is... Z owners need to truly and honestly consider FI. An NA tune vs an FI tune is night and day. The Z is not an out the box sports car people percieve it to be. Its an OTB handler with enough power to make it more fun than the lesser powered competition. Ie miata, S2k and other 4bangers.

Forced Induction.

:icon14:

kenchan 01-19-2012 02:37 PM

gan-san was really never a big fan of the FairladyZ... he hesitated to even call the Z a 'sports car.'

he even recommened one to get a AT and just drive it in the city. :icon17: so i think they just wanted to shove it up our arse.

and let me just add that spec racers chuckle when they see the Z thinking it's a wannabie a sports car due to best motoring. lol

pyrrhus17 01-19-2012 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1498781)
gan-san was really never a big fan of the FairladyZ... he hesitated to even call the Z a 'sports car.'

he even recommened one to get a AT and just drive it in the city. :icon17: so i think they just wanted to shove it up our arse.

and let me just add that spec racers chuckle when they see the Z thinking it's a wannabie a sports car due to best motoring. lol

:wtf2:

pyrrhus17 01-19-2012 02:48 PM

Wish more FI track guys would come out of the wood work, just to share their experience

kenchan 01-19-2012 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pyrrhus17 (Post 1498798)
:wtf2:

:confused: wat are you worried about? you have a wannabie a off-road suv. :icon17:

UNKNOWN_370 01-19-2012 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pyrrhus17 (Post 1498798)
:wtf2:

I hope you don't think I think the Z is a WANNABE sports car? I'm just saying that as far as speed... the Z won't be the fastest on the block in a race if other cars are more heavily modified than ours. Most of our Z owners are lightly modded tracking against heavily modded cars. That's all I meant.

But the Z is one of the truest sports cars on the road.

m4a1mustang 01-19-2012 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1499036)
wat, mustsuck gearbox are made in China??!! lol :icon17: didnt know that.

Getrag MT82 is built at Getrag's facility in China and is the source of A LOT of controversy! :bowrofl:

Though most of the "Buy American" complainers seem to ignore all of the TOKICO parts on our car. I swear half of it is JDM. :icon17:

kenchan 01-19-2012 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1499040)
But the Z is one of the truest sports cars on the road.

:iagree: gan-san just didnt like the Z's for some reason. probably something political going on in the background...

m4a1mustang 01-19-2012 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1499043)
:iagree: gan-san just didnt like the Z's for some reason. probably something political going on in the background...

I think a lot of Americans looking at the JDM market fail to realize that there are rivalries there just like there are here with Ford vs. Chevy vs. Dodge. :tup:


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