370z vs BRZ.......

semtex · 01-16-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx

the STI monicker isn't being used for the BRZ, it was used for the STI BRZ CONCEPT (the blue one with the wing, more aggresive body kit, wheels, etc). The concept was supposed to draw attention to what could be, not necessarily what will be. So in that regard I don't think Subaru is doing anything wrong.

Oh. Well that's good.

Trips · 01-16-2012, 02:16 PM

Keep the discussion on TOPIC!!

This has been cleaned and If I have to comeback to clean it again?

I'll be giving out infractions you guys decide

Carry on

alcheng · 01-16-2012, 03:53 PM

I just found we are lucky enough to have NISSAN continue making a V6 sports car while most of the Japanese had taken theirs off from the North American market ie Supra, RX-7, S2000.....

The BRZ is a good idea about having an extra choice, I believe its handling will compensate for it's low power output, since it has a good power-to-weight ratio.

We need more choices for sports cars from Japan, however, it is also the weakest segment in the consumer market.

Mikes350z · 01-16-2012, 09:09 PM

I'd personally take a BRZ if it was Subaru symmetrical all wheel drive, 4 cylinder turbo'd then yes... basically an impreza wrx sti coupe...but as it sits now, its not in the same class nor intended to be in the same class as the 370Z. Just Subaru trying to gauge the sports car market.

Shamu · 01-16-2012, 09:55 PM

Can I have some fries with those McStruts?

BRZ and FT86 are "Sporty Spice" of cars. Its not a serious sports car. At least "budget" Miata has double wishbone suspension! Spicy sport BRZ isn't even close to same league as 370 Z GT car.

Toyota as usual comes up way short on suspension. And they have stuck to under powered over priced formula. It's only redeeming quality is rear drive.

clintfocus · 01-16-2012, 10:07 PM

^ i agree with this

thats why i made my earlier post, being on struts is not ideal

370Zsteve · 01-16-2012, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Well again, kinda comparing apples to oranges. The Z is approx a 3300lb vehicle. At its barest, 3232Lbs.
The subaru BRZ is at 2700 approx lbs. Which probably puts the Z and turbo brz in the same hp to weight ratio. Not to mention FI is a much more valid modifier.

I mean I'm not even going to pass any judgement till the turbo is on a track and competing. The BRZ seems like a pretty good pkg for what it is.

2700 lbs curb weight and 270hp is a nice package. And when gasoline hits $5-$6 gal it's gonna be a sweet spot.

370Zsteve · 01-16-2012, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamu

Can I have some fries with those McStruts?

BRZ and FT86 are "Sporty Spice" of cars. Its not a serious sports car. At least "budget" Miata has double wishbone suspension! Spicy sport BRZ isn't even close to same league as 370 Z GT car.

Toyota as usual comes up way short on suspension. And they have stuck to under powered over priced formula. It's only redeeming quality is rear drive.

Yeah, struts suck.

2012 Porsche 911 S

Shamu · 01-16-2012, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Yeah, struts suck.

2012 Porsche 911 S

Yeah they do! Lots of issues for us Porsche guys over coming limitations of strut based suspensions. Camber limitations and scrub radius issues. And Porsche has invested substantially more into multi link struts they use. ...Toyota not so much. Are you really comparing toyota sporty spice McStruts to new 997 or 991 multi link suspension? Lol!

Take a look. It's econo car basic McStruts with pressed steel suspension arms. At least Miata uses all aluminum. This spicy sport is an econo car dressed up to be a sports car. No more no less. It won't take well to higher hp levels for true enthusiasts. I'm sure clueless tuner crowd will love it

Take a look at sites showing the Toy car. It's a joke.

jav@vossen · 01-16-2012, 11:08 PM

2 completely different cars IMO and will be priced differently

clintfocus · 01-16-2012, 11:37 PM

yeah porsche still has struts....and it would be better with wishbones

forza370z · 01-16-2012, 11:37 PM

I will only trade my Z for this bad a** BRZ...

SUBARU BRZ GT300 - YouTube

clintfocus · 01-16-2012, 11:45 PM

cause your going to drive a GT300 race car to work right?

clintfocus · 01-16-2012, 11:46 PM

and guess what, the GT300 BRZ does NOT have struts LOL

themann1984 · 01-16-2012, 11:54 PM

The 370Z is pure sex! It is hot, loud, and rough!

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Shamu A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,059 Drives: 370Z Racecar Rep Power: 19	Can I have some fries with those McStruts? BRZ and FT86 are "Sporty Spice" of cars. Its not a serious sports car. At least "budget" Miata has double wishbone suspension! Spicy sport BRZ isn't even close to same league as 370 Z GT car. Toyota as usual comes up way short on suspension. And they have stuck to under powered over priced formula. It's only redeeming quality is rear drive. __________________ Grant Last edited by Shamu; 01-16-2012 at 10:02 PM.

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clintfocus Track Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: los angeles Age: 39 Posts: 933 Drives: 370z, EK Civic, F150 Rep Power: 15	^ i agree with this thats why i made my earlier post, being on struts is not ideal

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clintfocus Track Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: los angeles Age: 39 Posts: 933 Drives: 370z, EK Civic, F150 Rep Power: 15	and guess what, the GT300 BRZ does NOT have struts LOL

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