370z vs BRZ.......

TheGreatOne · 01-15-2012, 11:13 PM

Well they don't compare in performance, the Z is way ahead.

If u are just looking for a sporty car and looking more at cost, get the BRZ.

If u actually care about the Z heritage, want 332 hp, more exclusivity, you would pick the Z without question.

alcheng · 01-15-2012, 11:23 PM

BRZ: With 200 horses, it delivers you from A to B with some fun.

370Z: With 330 horses, you drive from A to B with TONS OF FUN!!!

Let alone you don't know you are driving a Toyota or Subaru, or Suyota, or Tobaru, Tomato maybe?

gbrettin · 01-15-2012, 11:30 PM

It's good to have options for people. For me, I like the Z's heritage and how the 370 is a throw back to the 240.

Felix 808 · 01-15-2012, 11:37 PM

I'll take the Z all day long.

KillerBee370 · 01-16-2012, 12:15 AM

370z. that other thing is fugly

Kingbaby · 01-16-2012, 12:26 AM

used 07-08 Z/used 370z

wins by far

onzedge · 01-16-2012, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sfearl1

^ that. Not on the same level. Aimed at the Miata.

And 40 years of heritage backing the Z will get my vote all day.
And you're on a Z forum, you're going to get biased answers

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamaica@UAMotorsports

the interior of the z looks better.

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

as it sits now, the BRZ doesn't look like it will be anywhere near on the level of the 370z.

Waiz · 01-16-2012, 12:47 AM

This is not a valid comparison, they are two different price points and target markets.

Also, repost:

Subaru powered Toyota FT-86 Concept

DJ-of-E · 01-16-2012, 01:48 AM

Honestly...the BRZ probably makes a better track car.

I'm not talking about performance, but the ability to hold an extra set of wheels. haha

clintfocus · 01-16-2012, 03:46 AM

the BRZ/FRS is a great car for the community, its a platform built for enthusiasts to enjoy on track with minimal fuss. it will be a great car to learn in with it low torque output and light weight, yet will still be engaging with its revvy nature and balanced handling dynamic. but the fact of the matter is, its not the same class of car as a 370, apples and oranges.

the 370 chassis and suspension geometry is much further ahead, the 370 resembles a GTR platform more than anything with its double wish bone front suspension made with aluminum components, and its very good rear suspension geometry that has great corner exit grip and camber gain. Also the 370 can fit the rubber under stock body that can allow it to be a true mechanical grip monster on top of the great suspension design.

the BRZ/FRS chassis is basically a rwd impreza/wrx, with stamped steel suspension components and arms, strut front suspension, and a rear multilink that has a significant amount of anti squat, which with close to stock NA power isnt going to be a big deal, but when people start to add power with turbocharging(which you know will happen) the car is going to struggle with corner exit traction because of its design. to further add to this issue, the car does not fit wide rubber without body modification.

Footloose301 · 01-16-2012, 09:18 AM

I've seen a couple different designs with the BRZ and I don't mind it. It's somewhat light-weight, and with different tail lights and some lowering springs it'll look decent, but it really needs a turbo charged engine with about 270HP to keep with the 370Z given it's weight.

As a consumer you'll have to weigh each pro and con and figure what really suits you best. If you'll looking for something with a $25k price point then the BRZ will have a full warranty, until you mod it, and the Z will be out of a warranty for the most part. Besides, I always like to be the first person to fart in my car so I would lean towards the BRZ.

You know the aftermarket will be huge with those cars and I'm guessing it'll be larger than the Z aftermarket. Some companies like Cobb even gave up on us. The BRZ is priced for the younger generation and I bet parts will be cheaper too.

I am very happy with my 370Z and I would never trade it for a BRZ but so many people are trashing the car already. Competition is healthy, come on people. Hopefully these Scion TC's will stop being produced because they're taking over. I see 3 on every corner.

PapoZalsa · 01-16-2012, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

Definitely get the BRZ and make YouTube vids drag racing a leaf and loose.

vividracing · 01-16-2012, 11:15 AM

The FR-S/BRZ isn't really even in the same class as the 370Z. Totally different animals.

I'd like to see a BRZ with an FR-S front end swap

The Dimer · 01-16-2012, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vividracing

The FR-S/BRZ isn't really even in the same class as the 370Z. Totally different animals.

I'd like to see a BRZ with an FR-S front end swap

I actually find the FR-S to be a more attractive car than the BRZ, but would rather have the Subie over a Scion. Problem solved.

semtex · 01-16-2012, 11:31 AM

I think the BRZ has merit for what it is, but I'm a little put off by their use of the STi monicker on something so weakly powered. I wonder if I'm going to have BRZ drivers challenging me in my real STi as a continual nuisance.

01-15-2012, 11:13 PM	#16 (permalink)
TheGreatOne A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Montreal, Canada Age: 46 Posts: 1,980 Drives: E60 BMW M5 Rep Power: 21	Well they don't compare in performance, the Z is way ahead. If u are just looking for a sporty car and looking more at cost, get the BRZ. If u actually care about the Z heritage, want 332 hp, more exclusivity, you would pick the Z without question. __________________ 2017 SUBARU STI 2008 E60 M5 - SOLD 2010 40th Anniversary 370Z - SOLD (and missing her)

01-15-2012, 11:37 PM	#19 (permalink)
Felix 808 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Camarillo, CA Posts: 1,063 Drives: 2011 PW/Grey T/S 7AT Rep Power: 2807	I'll take the Z all day long. __________________ Semper Fi Μολὼν λαβέ

01-16-2012, 01:48 AM	#24 (permalink)
DJ-of-E Track Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Garden Grove, CA Posts: 676 Drives: 00 Toyota Celica 040 Rep Power: 15	Honestly...the BRZ probably makes a better track car. I'm not talking about performance, but the ability to hold an extra set of wheels. haha __________________

01-16-2012, 09:18 AM	#26 (permalink)
Footloose301 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 2,659 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 21	I've seen a couple different designs with the BRZ and I don't mind it. It's somewhat light-weight, and with different tail lights and some lowering springs it'll look decent, but it really needs a turbo charged engine with about 270HP to keep with the 370Z given it's weight. As a consumer you'll have to weigh each pro and con and figure what really suits you best. If you'll looking for something with a $25k price point then the BRZ will have a full warranty, until you mod it, and the Z will be out of a warranty for the most part. Besides, I always like to be the first person to fart in my car so I would lean towards the BRZ. You know the aftermarket will be huge with those cars and I'm guessing it'll be larger than the Z aftermarket. Some companies like Cobb even gave up on us. The BRZ is priced for the younger generation and I bet parts will be cheaper too. I am very happy with my 370Z and I would never trade it for a BRZ but so many people are trashing the car already. Competition is healthy, come on people. Hopefully these Scion TC's will stop being produced because they're taking over. I see 3 on every corner. __________________ 2010 40th Anniversary 370Z

01-16-2012, 11:15 AM	#28 (permalink)
vividracing The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Gilbert, AZ Age: 38 Posts: 7,306 Drives: 350Z,370Z,GTR Rep Power: 39	The FR-S/BRZ isn't really even in the same class as the 370Z. Totally different animals. I'd like to see a BRZ with an FR-S front end swap __________________ Rocky @ Vivid ♦ 480.966.3040 x236 ♦ Rocky@vividracing.com Email, PM, or call me directly for aggressive The370Z.com member pricing!!!

01-15-2012, 11:23 PM	#17 (permalink)
alcheng A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 28,894 Drives: 2011 ZR PW w/Clutch Rep Power: 418353	BRZ: With 200 horses, it delivers you from A to B with some fun. 370Z: With 330 horses, you drive from A to B with TONS OF FUN!!! Let alone you don't know you are driving a Toyota or Subaru, or Suyota, or Tobaru, Tomato maybe?

01-15-2012, 11:30 PM	#18 (permalink)
gbrettin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Portage, MI Posts: 2,279 Drives: Tricycle Rep Power: 589151	It's good to have options for people. For me, I like the Z's heritage and how the 370 is a throw back to the 240.

01-16-2012, 12:15 AM	#20 (permalink)
KillerBee370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: So Cal baby! Age: 51 Posts: 5,964 Drives: with passion Rep Power: 321	370z. that other thing is fugly

01-16-2012, 12:47 AM	#23 (permalink)
Waiz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 9,262 Drives: Z33 & GE8 Rep Power: 459	This is not a valid comparison, they are two different price points and target markets. Also, repost: Subaru powered Toyota FT-86 Concept

01-16-2012, 03:46 AM	#25 (permalink)
clintfocus Track Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: los angeles Age: 38 Posts: 933 Drives: 370z, EK Civic, F150 Rep Power: 15	the BRZ/FRS is a great car for the community, its a platform built for enthusiasts to enjoy on track with minimal fuss. it will be a great car to learn in with it low torque output and light weight, yet will still be engaging with its revvy nature and balanced handling dynamic. but the fact of the matter is, its not the same class of car as a 370, apples and oranges. the 370 chassis and suspension geometry is much further ahead, the 370 resembles a GTR platform more than anything with its double wish bone front suspension made with aluminum components, and its very good rear suspension geometry that has great corner exit grip and camber gain. Also the 370 can fit the rubber under stock body that can allow it to be a true mechanical grip monster on top of the great suspension design. the BRZ/FRS chassis is basically a rwd impreza/wrx, with stamped steel suspension components and arms, strut front suspension, and a rear multilink that has a significant amount of anti squat, which with close to stock NA power isnt going to be a big deal, but when people start to add power with turbocharging(which you know will happen) the car is going to struggle with corner exit traction because of its design. to further add to this issue, the car does not fit wide rubber without body modification.

01-16-2012, 11:31 AM	#30 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 32	I think the BRZ has merit for what it is, but I'm a little put off by their use of the STi monicker on something so weakly powered. I wonder if I'm going to have BRZ drivers challenging me in my real STi as a continual nuisance. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.