Got Screwed on the Deal....Items Now 4 Sale

Unicorn_blood · 05-21-2009, 09:59 PM

In the end, you know you still want the car. There's no denying that. You got all the parts already. Get it... install parts and drive it hard for some relief!

WooZ · 05-21-2009, 10:55 PM

Dude, just wait awhile! I know you're pissed, but if you're ok car wise right now, waiting will get you a great deal even though I know you don't want to wait...

Pushing_Tin · 05-21-2009, 11:54 PM

It's still a good deal, I paid sticker in January!!

BlackBullet · 05-22-2009, 12:40 AM

For most of you who are saying, "wow, that's still a good deal".....you need to close your mouth. I think you people missed the point by a mile. The OP was excited because its his dream car and his negotiation skill to get a killer price. If it's off by couple hundred, I would see how "that's still a good deal" apply. But we're talking about couple thousand here. How would you feel if someone stick you like that if you buying......say a house. That would be like 25k (proportion comparison) that you have to fork over on the closing date.

My question to the OP is this......Did you get your deposit back?

Pushing_Tin · 05-22-2009, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBullet

For most of you who are saying, "wow, that's still a good deal".....you need to close your mouth. I think you people missed the point by a mile. The OP was excited because its his dream car and his negotiation skill to get a killer price. If it's off by couple hundred, I would see how "that's still a good deal" apply. But we're talking about couple thousand here. How would you feel if someone stick you like that if you buying......say a house. That would be like 25k (proportion comparison) that you have to fork over on the closing date.

My question to the OP is this......Did you get your deposit back?

No, I don't think I'll close my mouth. Yes it's still a good deal. Dealerships/people make mistakes, I do not know if this was the case here or not. If it was a scam and he can prove it of course he should walk, but otherwise he should take a good deal.

RDGR12 · 05-22-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pushing_Tin

No, I don't think I'll close my mouth. Yes it's still a good deal. Dealerships/people make mistakes, I do not know if this was the case here or not. If it was a scam and he can prove it of course he should walk, but otherwise he should take a good deal.

It may still be a good deal. But why pay another $700+ on top of the agreed price which was signed on the contract? That's a binding legal agreement. They should deliver when the buyer had put his hard earned money in the play.

Yes, there was a fine print stating things, but does that apply to this specific situation where the dealer dropped the ball somewhere?

My assumption: the dealer didn't want to take the loss by giving the buyer the agreed price. And if the OP walks away, they can still turn around and sell the car for the right price; given the assumption that the dealer made the mistake somewhere. No loss taken, but time, and potential buyers should the OP names them.

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Originally Posted by semtex

I actually agree with the gist of your point (it's the principle of the matter, not the actual dollar amount), but there's no reason to use disrespectful language like "you need to close your mouth." This is a discussion forum, after all. We can disagree with one another without disrespecting each other.

^^ +1

semtex · 05-22-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RDGR12

It may still be a good deal. But why pay another $700+ on top of the agreed price which was signed on the contract?

Actually, I think he'd have to pay another $1700, not $700. The dealer wanted another $2400, then said they'd be willing to knock off $700 off of that, which still leaves him dishing out another $1700 to get his car.

RDGR12 · 05-22-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

Actually, I think he'd have to pay another $1700, not $700. The dealer wanted another $2400, then said they'd be willing to knock off $700 off of that, which still leaves him dishing out another $1700 to get his car.

Thanks. I got that the other way around.

As my rebuttal goes... Why pay another $2400 (or $1700 should the OP takes it) on top of the agreed price? I say no deal here. The OP did his part and was willing to close the deal.

semtex · 05-22-2009, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBullet

For most of you who are saying, "wow, that's still a good deal".....you need to close your mouth. I think you people missed the point by a mile. The OP was excited because its his dream car and his negotiation skill to get a killer price. If it's off by couple hundred, I would see how "that's still a good deal" apply. But we're talking about couple thousand here. How would you feel if someone stick you like that if you buying......say a house. That would be like 25k (proportion comparison) that you have to fork over on the closing date.

My question to the OP is this......Did you get your deposit back?

I actually agree with the gist of your point (it's the principle of the matter, not the actual dollar amount), but there's no reason to use disrespectful language like "you need to close your mouth." This is a discussion forum, after all. We can disagree with one another without disrespecting each other.

scorpion90 · 05-22-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBullet

For most of you who are saying, "wow, that's still a good deal".....you need to close your mouth. I think you people missed the point by a mile. The OP was excited because its his dream car and his negotiation skill to get a killer price. If it's off by couple hundred, I would see how "that's still a good deal" apply. But we're talking about couple thousand here. How would you feel if someone stick you like that if you buying......say a house. That would be like 25k (proportion comparison) that you have to fork over on the closing date.

My question to the OP is this......Did you get your deposit back?

Thanks to all of you and the replies since they have their value. And YES, I was storming mad at the dealership and talked to the general sales manager to no avail. I even went home and shredded my Penfed loan check since I had put their name on it at the dealership.
Maybe you all are right, I should just hang on to the parts and hope that I still can get my Z some day soon.

No, I did not get my $2k back yet as they said their main dealership in Barberton has to issue the check...maybe next Tuesday.

thanks to all

RDGR12 · 05-22-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by scorpion90

No, I did not get my $2k back yet as they said their main dealership in Barberton has to issue the check...maybe next Tuesday.

I surely hope that they get you your deposit back at a timely manner. There are plenty of deals to be had, just look around more.

Wishing you the best and better outcome!

Caravanshaka · 05-22-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by scorpion90

No, I did not get my $2k back yet as they said their main dealership in Barberton has to issue the check...maybe next Tuesday.

thanks to all

See if you can get a hold of the GM at the Main dealership and explain your situation. Tell him you are walking away because of the way you were treated, and are going to buy somewhere else. More than likely he will not be happy with the sub-dealerships treatment of a customer, and will be able to work with you a little more than they could. Tell him you will pay $500 more than original, if they include a couple dealer-installed options (IE tint/clear bra/mats/trunk organizer..etc). That gives them a little more cash on the deal, and you get a little something for your extra $$

like others have said, your deal was WAY under invoice, so if you truly want the Z, something like the above is a good compromise when you compare it to taking your 2k back and going to another dealership to pay more.

scorpion90 · 05-22-2009, 06:20 PM

OK, so I went to another dealership in Tallmadge that had the same model but in Yellow and without the Z illuminated kick plates. They ran the vpp price for me at $33099.22. So I went back to the original dealership that offered to take their profit of $783 off the $2400 difference which produced a price of $32057.05. So i figured for a $1100 less I could get the car I really wanted (blue) along with the kick plates. I figured it just wasn't going to get any better than this, so I swallowed my pride and bought it. Now I just need to get another Penfed check.

Thanks to all who urged me to continue on or keep my parts for the future.

jstevenson · 05-22-2009, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by scorpion90

OK, so I went to another dealership in Tallmadge that had the same model but in Yellow and without the Z illuminated kick plates. They ran the vpp price for me at $33099.22. So I went back to the original dealership that offered to take their profit of $783 off the $2400 difference which produced a price of $32057.05. So i figured for a $1100 less I could get the car I really wanted (blue) along with the kick plates. I figured it just wasn't going to get any better than this, so I swallowed my pride and bought it. Now I just need to get another Penfed check.

Thanks to all who urged me to continue on or keep my parts for the future.

Dude - you still got a killer deal and the car you wanted. Maybe not as good as you were hoping, but at least you know the dealership made the absolute minimum they could.

Congrats on the purchase

nogoodname · 05-23-2009, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by scorpion90

OK, so I went to another dealership in Tallmadge that had the same model but in Yellow and without the Z illuminated kick plates. They ran the vpp price for me at $33099.22. So I went back to the original dealership that offered to take their profit of $783 off the $2400 difference which produced a price of $32057.05. So i figured for a $1100 less I could get the car I really wanted (blue) along with the kick plates. I figured it just wasn't going to get any better than this, so I swallowed my pride and bought it. Now I just need to get another Penfed check.

Thanks to all who urged me to continue on or keep my parts for the future.

i told ya, just bite the bullet.......

congrats

05-22-2009, 06:20 PM	#13 (permalink)
scorpion90 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Akron, Ohio Age: 76 Posts: 109 Drives: 370Z Base 7AT+Sports Rep Power: 284	Gave In! OK, so I went to another dealership in Tallmadge that had the same model but in Yellow and without the Z illuminated kick plates. They ran the vpp price for me at $33099.22. So I went back to the original dealership that offered to take their profit of $783 off the $2400 difference which produced a price of $32057.05. So i figured for a $1100 less I could get the car I really wanted (blue) along with the kick plates. I figured it just wasn't going to get any better than this, so I swallowed my pride and bought it. Now I just need to get another Penfed check. Thanks to all who urged me to continue on or keep my parts for the future.

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05-21-2009, 09:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
Unicorn_blood Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Milky Way Posts: 40 Drives: Enzo Rep Power: 16	In the end, you know you still want the car. There's no denying that. You got all the parts already. Get it... install parts and drive it hard for some relief!

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WooZ Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bay Area Posts: 116 Drives: An Auto Auto Rep Power: 17	Dude, just wait awhile! I know you're pissed, but if you're ok car wise right now, waiting will get you a great deal even though I know you don't want to wait...

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05-22-2009, 12:40 AM	#4 (permalink)
BlackBullet Base Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: US Posts: 48 Drives: 03 Best Car Ever Rep Power: 0	For most of you who are saying, "wow, that's still a good deal".....you need to close your mouth. I think you people missed the point by a mile. The OP was excited because its his dream car and his negotiation skill to get a killer price. If it's off by couple hundred, I would see how "that's still a good deal" apply. But we're talking about couple thousand here. How would you feel if someone stick you like that if you buying......say a house. That would be like 25k (proportion comparison) that you have to fork over on the closing date. My question to the OP is this......Did you get your deposit back?