370 and 350
 

Hey guys! id like to first start off by introducing myself here (hey im max :D), i know it should have been put in the intro section but id like the main topic of this discussion to focus on my real question to you all.

Iv received my drivers license and have been using my parents car for some time. Its not that they wouldnt help me out in buying a car, its that i cant take my eyes off the 370z. I dont want any other car, i dont think any other car looks as nice, and iv worked my butt off for 4 summers to finally gain enough money for the car. After obsessing over the car for about 4 years i couldn't help but look up ever detail about the car. iv came into a few problems that i would like "professional help" from (you guys!).

The main problem im having is choosing between the 370z NISMO and the 350z NISMO. i didnt even have the 350z in mind until i found it that it has many benefits over the 370z. the main things iv found are that the stock brakes on the 350z are better, its an overall lighter car. of course the look of the 370z completely tears the 350z apart with the long hood and boomerang head/readlights, and quite honestly iv even been putting money aside for the amuse body kit, but i care alot more about the performance as the 350 still looks amazing.

please help me out with providing the pros and cons between the 2 cars and how much it will effect the performance of my purchase between the 2 cars.

Any intelectual information is greatly appreciated, please no spam.

P.S. i really dont know how to summarize so for u guys that dont like to read. sorry.

you mean a diecast car? ;)

This:

what....?

I'm not sure where you are getting your facts from but they are incorrect.

Quoted from Edmunds.com
Compared to the former 350Z, the Nissan 370Z offers a larger and more powerful 3.7-liter V6, a redesigned suspension with a shorter wheelbase, and upgraded interior design. Unlike Z progressions of the past, the 370Z is actually a bit smaller and lighter than the 350Z, making it faster, nimbler and more polished. There's even an actual glovebox and a more usable cargo area.

Nissan 370Z

Also, If you are serious about the Z... Take a deeper look through this site. There is a a lot of information already posted that would be of assistance to you.

I doubt the 350Z Nismo is that much lighter than the 370Z Nismo(if its true). The standard 370 is about 90lbs lighter than the standard 350. The weight loss was often advertised as one of the improvements over the 350. I can't comment on the brakes because I had the STD brakes on my late 350 and now sport brakes on my current 370(not a fair comparison). You can't go wrong with either car. I'm sure you'll be happy with which ever one you end up with. But I'm almost certain if you go with the 350, you'll be wishing you had gotten the 370. Comparing these 2 cars has been beaten to death over and over, whether its purely informative or argumentative. Do a search and you'll find everything you need to know. Good luck.

pros both have 4 wheels
cons they are both probably a little much for a first car

Or a little too expensive...

Buy a piece of junk, learn to appreciate it, then buy a 370Z.

At your age, spending 25k-30k on a 370Z financially does not make sense.

Have you driven a 370Z? Let alone a 350Z?

They have a lot of power especially for someone who just got their license. Are you prepared to pay for maintenance? If something goes wrong after the warranty is up? Do you have any mechanical knowledge?

Back to my point if a Z is an absolute must, test drive one, hell some places allow you to track sports cars for a dollar amount per lap. More than likely they will have a Z. Push it to the limits and see if you are experienced enough to drive one.

Also fuk Rick perry

buy an old z... like a used 350Z, I know many kids that drive those.

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A stock Z doesn't have a lot of power. Sorry if I offend you guys, but it just doesn't. The reason the Z is a bad idea for a n00b is because it's RWD. It's definitely too much car for an inexperienced driver, no matter how you slice it.

To answer your question OP... The 370Z has serious issues with cooling, and another area where the 350Z excels (ever so slightly) is in fuel tank design. If I were you, I'd buy a gently used 07-08 350Z and save the rest for maintenance.

Mr.onzedge, can you tell me where did you get that spy-pic of the 2033 670Z-NISMO???

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Hey Max,

Just wondering will you track the Z, and while you are saying you are deciding between 370 and a 350, the price is quite a difference between the two, will you take that into consideration.

Secondly, if you are going to put Amuse Kit onto the either one, why do you need the NISMO? Performance wise, I don't see NISMO is that much better than a regular Z except the body kit.

Regarding the brake, the 350Z comes with Brembo brakes, it's better than the one on the 370Z, but unless you will track the car, DD on the 370Z sports brake is more than enough.

Lastly, what is your actual budget??

I've driven both, but not NISMO, I drive the 350z roadster for 4 years and I just got the 370z roadster 4 months ago. Honestly, I will strongly suggest the 370z, the chassis is better, engine is better, when I push the 350z to around 5k+ rpm from 3rd gear and up, the vibration is just soo much that I have to back off my right foot. It doesn't happen with the 370z, I feel confident to push the car.

I didn't mod any of the two.

Anyway, I will suggest your decision base on, your budget and also the purpose, DD or will you bring it to track.

Is it your first car? What had you driven before? If you believe you can handle this 330+hp RWD, go ahead, otherwise, you always can see what options do you have.

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Just wait for the Scion FR-S to come out and buy one.
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He wants a Nismo 370z. I think it will cost more like $35k to $40k. I think maintenance will most likely be taken cared of by the elders. Man I wish I could've saved up $40k dollars to buy a brand new sports car back in high school working over the summers. I guess teens these days just make too much dough in summer jobs.

Sometimes I curious about how could they have such a sum of money to buy this kind of car too, but they are not asking our opinions on how to make/spend money, so I'll just say what the heck.

If they screwed the car, well, sorry, hope no one get injured, and see you after another 4 summerzzzzz.

LOL

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Yep... no oil cooling issues with the FR-S haha.

Just a stuck gas peddle.

^An easy fix :D
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Gimme a break! I wanted to sleep with Brooke Shields when I was a teenager, but I was realistic and in over my head so I targeted a cheerleader instead. Your cheerleader should be a 2005 Honda Civic!

Considering your age you should start off with something cheap until you get you can gain driving experience.

You'll shoot your eye out......

Buy a beater rwd car and learn on that. I recommend a 98-02 6-speed F-body. You will learn things from it at a much lower cost than with a 370Z. Drive it a few years, then sell it for minimal depreciation unless it's wrecked or something, then buy your 370Z. To me, my LS1 car felt almost identical to the 370Z in acceleration.

^ Awesome, and good timing.

OP - I bought a used 350z in high school and loved it. It wasn't terribly expensive, had plenty of power, and was a joy to drive. Having graduated college I now drive a 370z and can say without a doubt, the 370z is the better car. If you buy a 350 you'd likely regret it every time you see a 370z. The sport brakes are phenomenal, the car is better balanced, weighs about the same as the 350z (but sports better safety equipment), and gets slightly better gas mileage.

If you consider yourself a responsible and disciplined driver, there should be no reason not to get this car but I'd suggest buying used to save some cash. No need for the Nismo unless you really love the look of it. Performance wise its no different; slap an exhaust on a stock one and you'll be making more power than the nismo with a better sound.

Just because a car is fast doesn't mean its dangerous. A shitty car can go fast too... it just takes longer and doesn't brake as quickly.

Who's paying for the insurance on the car. Him or mom and dad?

Who cares? If your parents were going to let something like OP is talking about happen, would you have turned it down?

"No, mom, dad, I don't want a $40K car for my first car. I don't think it's responsible. I would like a $2000 beater like my friends all have."

Riiiiiiighhhht....

Some of us had nice stuff, some of us had beaters. I had both beaters and decent stuff, and now that I'm on my own I can afford nicer stuff. Either way, why begrudge someone for doing the exact same thing you probably would in their place?

My thinking on it was. He can buy the car by himself. Did he check into insurance to see how much it's going to cost him. Or if it goes on his parents insurance. He's a first time driver with NO time behind the wheel. So he's going to get hit big time.

Maybe, depends on the state, etc. Also depends on the "deal". I have people PM me all the time wondering how the hell my insurance is as low as it is through a major company (Allstate).

You're how old, and what's your credit rating? He's 16 and no credit rating. Big difference. LOL

25, 700+

Oh jeez, 16? Wow. Okay, I learned to drive in Texas, so I was thinking 17-18. Yeah, insurance may not even be possible.

NY is along way from Texas. LOL In his post, he said that he just got his license. I figure that would put him about 16. NY is a lot different then Texas for getting a driver license I bet. Insurance is different too. I brought this insurance thing up because I have seen where somebody could afford the vehicle, but not the insurance and up keep on it. Then watch it get repo.

If he is 16, it is very possible he may not even be able to FIND insurance for the vehicle.

Like mention above by the early raisers that the insurance premium will be probably more than the car payment.

Ah, no. I work a night shift and was bored. :)

Same, except I'm not at work right now. I just keep the same hours whether I am at the hospital or not.

hey rusty where did you get that avatar? :D :tup:

When my twins turned 16 we had one more driver than car. My insurance company's policy was to put the extra driver on the most expensive car. I was paying about $120 a month for the twin on the F150 and $240 on the twin they put on the 350Z. I saved $120 a month in insurance costsby buying an extra car. :D Teenager + Z = huge insurance cost.