Car wars- Mustang, 370's, Camaros, Challengers...

my2004Z · 01-03-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

To me it sounds like youre smacking yourself for not buying the 5.0 and you are mad that your. 3.7 isn't fast enough to talk smack to us, so you're compensating with 5.0 worship. Sexondly,you're reacting to the comment I made in another thread. I said the "Drivers Compensate Skill" for brute force. In that same thread I disputed the mustang as being a real sports car and for those who don't believe??? Test a 302BOSS.
As far as v8 envy, you're on the wrong site bruh... our v6's at 3.7 ltrs are seeing four and a half second sprints to 60 and 13 second quarters with automatic Z's that only have aftermarket air filters and premium synthetic. Full bolt on Z's get 12.6 quarter time!!! NO f.I. needed, We do it on a v6POWER? Show us another v6 doing it under $45k??? Definately not your 3.7.
Honestly, looks wise, both challenger and camaro look wayyyyy better UNLESS its my baby, the BOSS... She's the hottest mustang in 38 years.... But neither are f**kin with the Ford 5.0 powerplant.
As far as our v6's. I think most of us are just happy to be driving a 6 that for the most part compares to v8 power in track times.. we don't have to beat or be jealous of 5.0's. We give challenger R/T's and camaro SS's something to worry about with a third less displacement. So where's the envy??? Lastly, we actually hit the 1g mark. Not almost? Not close. The. 11's and up hit it with the sport pkg. If we had to envy anyone on this planet of cars. The only car to envy when you drive a Z.... A Porsche. And honestly. Not feeling much envy when I see porsche's.

Well stated. I for one, will never own a mustang or a porsche.

semtex · 01-03-2012, 01:00 PM

GaleForce · 01-03-2012, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

For a second there I thought he was going to do the old Batman theme song, na na na na na na... Batman!

onzedge · 01-03-2012, 01:01 PM

Apoc370z · 01-03-2012, 01:08 PM

Wait.. Out of all things, he is complaining about the Z's interior over the mustangs?

What is the real question here? I think its my english cause all i can understand from that post is:

Camaros and challengers suck, and the Z's interior is something to complain about?

Cmike2780 · 01-03-2012, 02:11 PM

Go easy on the kid, he's probably not old enough to vote. Troll or not, his opinions on automotive knowledge is probably lacking. (no offense OP). At the end of the day, they are just that, opinions. No one here is really flaming on the Mustang OP, so if that's what you're thinking, I think you should move on.

OP, there are plenty of Mustang vs. 370z threads on here you can browse through, although most will probably be locked. You come across as a bit defensive and combative, which is probably why so many people are giving you crap. Saying stuff like "the interior in my opinion is definitely the weak link of the car for me and where you see its a Nissan" is not gonna win you points on a NISSAN forum. That Ford logo isn't any better. My guess is you've probably never been inside a Z and have only seen pictures.

brucelidat · 01-03-2012, 02:20 PM

general consensus form reviews by individuals and mags is that the 370's interior is pretty nice so if that's the OP's main gripe and he IF he is not a troll, maybe he is confusing it with the 350's interior which I hear was awful

specZ · 01-03-2012, 02:21 PM

Nissan 370Z General Discussions
General Discussions about Nissan 370Z.
I dont understand what's not clear about this?
oh yea...IBTL

brucelidat · 01-03-2012, 02:29 PM

If anything, it seems to me like the OP has Z envy if he just got a stang but is on our forums and now is looking for external justification for his decision. he si also very loosely and incorrectly associating members who switched to stangs with his car. I haven't seen any members who switched to v6 stangs, only to the 5.0 which we all acknowledge as a great car.

m4a1mustang · 01-03-2012, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat

If anything, it seems to me like the OP has Z envy if he just got a stang but is on our forums and now is looking for external justification for his decision. he si also very loosely and incorrectly associating members who switched to stangs with his car. I haven't seen any members who switched to v6 stangs, only to the 5.0 which we all acknowledge as a great car.

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-03-2012, 02:32 PM

The funniest part to me is when the OP says. A Z outhandle a mustang? Really? Its like he can't elaborate because he's never driven a Z. And if he has? Not hard or extensively enough to really make a comparison. NOW. Though the mustang is greatly improved. The mustang G's are .95g which is great for a car of that size. But that G, is a track recorded grip level. On the street, that same exact brembo'ed and suspensioned Z drops to .87g which again, .87g on the street is great. But the lowest out sport models get on the street is middle 90's. Our cars still corner way better. Our steering feel is way better. Turn in feels way more precise and and flatter. As good as the stang is its just not up to snuff in handling. But it does kick *** compared to its muscle bredrin.

m4a1mustang · 01-03-2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The funniest part to me is when the OP says. A Z outhandle a mustang? Really? Its like he can't elaborate because he's never driven a Z. And if he has? Not hard or extensively enough to really make a comparison. NOW. Though the mustang is greatly improved. The mustang G's are .95g which is great for a car of that size. But that G, is a track recorded grip level. On the street, that same exact brembo'ed and suspensioned Z drops to .87g which again, .87g on the street is great. But the lowest out sport models get on the street is middle 90's. Our cars still corner way better. Our steering feel is way better. Turn in feels way more precise and and flatter. As good as the stang is its just not up to snuff in handling. But it does kick *** compared to its muscle bredrin.

More thoughts (and I'm rehashing this from previous discussion because I feel it's necessary to counter your misinformation)...

Steering: Yes, the Z has better steering feel. The Brembo cars, in Sport mode, still feel pretty good, though.

Turn-in: I've said this before and I'll say it again. Turn-in is sharper on the 5.0. The 5.0 also corners flatter. There's a reason some of the track guys actually run a smaller rear sway bar on the 5.0s. The only difference between the two is that the Mustang's roll rate is faster than the 370s, so the 370 has better mass control in transition. This is a damper issue. The Tokicos on the 5.0 (the rear at least) feel like they are tuned for the 370Z... the only problem is the 5.0 carries more weight so they can't keep up as well at higher speed cornering. Under 60mph or so they are fine.

Precision: The Z has a lot of built in oversteer (thank you stagger!). Push it hard and you know what this feels like. The 5.0 has the better balance. It rotates the center of the corner a lot easier than the 370 does. If anything it's got more of a hint of oversteer at the limit. The Z is precise, though. It's more "point and shoot" than the 5.0. Just make sure you don't carry too much speed to the apex or you're going to push like hell. The 5.0 requires more work to drive fast... you have to be comfortable driving a "free" car.

The result: Two totally different feeling cars that accomplish pretty much the same damn thing on track (Excluding the straights).

Red__Zed · 01-03-2012, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The funniest part to me is when the OP says. A Z outhandle a mustang? Really? Its like he can't elaborate because he's never driven a Z. And if he has? Not hard or extensively enough to really make a comparison. NOW. Though the mustang is greatly improved. The mustang G's are .95g which is great for a car of that size. But that G, is a track recorded grip level. On the street, that same exact brembo'ed and suspensioned Z drops to .87g which again, .87g on the street is great. But the lowest out sport models get on the street is middle 90's. Our cars still corner way better. Our steering feel is way better. Turn in feels way more precise and and flatter. As good as the stang is its just not up to snuff in handling. But it does kick *** compared to its muscle bredrin.

lolwat?

And, in come the fanboys who are just as misguided as the OP

Cmike2780 · 01-03-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

lolwat?

And, in comes Red__Zed who trolls just as much as the OP

fixed!

Red__Zed · 01-03-2012, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

fixed!

Trollolololololol

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Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	Go easy on the kid, he's probably not old enough to vote. Troll or not, his opinions on automotive knowledge is probably lacking. (no offense OP). At the end of the day, they are just that, opinions. No one here is really flaming on the Mustang OP, so if that's what you're thinking, I think you should move on. OP, there are plenty of Mustang vs. 370z threads on here you can browse through, although most will probably be locked. You come across as a bit defensive and combative, which is probably why so many people are giving you crap. Saying stuff like "the interior in my opinion is definitely the weak link of the car for me and where you see its a Nissan" is not gonna win you points on a NISSAN forum. That Ford logo isn't any better. My guess is you've probably never been inside a Z and have only seen pictures. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography] Last edited by Cmike2780; 01-03-2012 at 02:18 PM.

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brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 31	general consensus form reviews by individuals and mags is that the 370's interior is pretty nice so if that's the OP's main gripe and he IF he is not a troll, maybe he is confusing it with the 350's interior which I hear was awful __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

01-03-2012, 02:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 31	If anything, it seems to me like the OP has Z envy if he just got a stang but is on our forums and now is looking for external justification for his decision. he si also very loosely and incorrectly associating members who switched to stangs with his car. I haven't seen any members who switched to v6 stangs, only to the 5.0 which we all acknowledge as a great car. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

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Apoc370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 999 Drives: 2011 GM z34 Rep Power: 16	Wait.. Out of all things, he is complaining about the Z's interior over the mustangs? What is the real question here? I think its my english cause all i can understand from that post is: Camaros and challengers suck, and the Z's interior is something to complain about?

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specZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 336 Drives: On The Weekends Rep Power: 24	Nissan 370Z General Discussions General Discussions about Nissan 370Z. I dont understand what's not clear about this? oh yea...IBTL

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	The funniest part to me is when the OP says. A Z outhandle a mustang? Really? Its like he can't elaborate because he's never driven a Z. And if he has? Not hard or extensively enough to really make a comparison. NOW. Though the mustang is greatly improved. The mustang G's are .95g which is great for a car of that size. But that G, is a track recorded grip level. On the street, that same exact brembo'ed and suspensioned Z drops to .87g which again, .87g on the street is great. But the lowest out sport models get on the street is middle 90's. Our cars still corner way better. Our steering feel is way better. Turn in feels way more precise and and flatter. As good as the stang is its just not up to snuff in handling. But it does kick *** compared to its muscle bredrin.

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