Lemon?
 

Got my Z in march 2011, ever since the check engine light comes on pretty much for no reason. I literally took the car to the dealership more then 7 times. And they cant not figure out why it's doing that. The car is pulling a Multiple cyclinder misfire code. But the car isn't actually doing that. So I take it to the dealership and they really dont know but the car is still under warranty. but its getting close to being out of warranty and they haven't figured it out yet. Last they had my car in for a week, and had a Nissan engineer working on the car. they said they changed my ECM, but engine light still came on after that. frustrated. dont know what to do!?!?????

Hmmmm. Prior to putting any mods on my car I was getting a check engine light throwing a random misfire code. The day I had it scheduled to go into the dealership I was driving there and the light went off like a mile from the place. I wanted to have it checked out before I started modding the car but couldnt wait any longer for it to show up again. Ended up doin my mods, which included ECU tune via UpRev and never saw the code again. Im interested as to what was causing this myself.

Check the Lemon Laws of your State because every one is different. Some times it takes a Lawyer to deal with the situation too. GL

How do you know that it isn't misfiring? You don't necessarily feel a misfire.

yea i'm not sure, they cant figure it out. I mean had a multiple cyclinder misfire happen in my 350z and you can definately tell. This engine light only comes on at start up. never as i'm driving.

thanks

Because they have checked all the cyclinders and supposely have ran tests on the injectors and what not. Dealership is saying the car isn't misfiring. Nissan engineer came out and put a new ECM. Still came on.

Did they change the plugs or coil packs?

Do you have another dealership you can stop by and have them look it over?

Call Nissan north america (nna corporate), get them to open a claim, (get the ref # and name of person you spoke to), this way, if you're warrantee expires while it's still getting resolved, you won't be on the hook for it.

Also, like others said, keep all your documentation and start looking into the possibility of lemon lawing the car if you can't get it fixed.

Great advice. This is definately the best way to go.

no i dont think they have changed the coil packs or plugs!

thats what I did, this will be twice that i've called nissan involved. Hopefully they call me back today! Not sure what my options are.

thats what I did, this will be twice that i've called nissan involved. Hopefully they call me back today! Not sure what my options are.

I guess I could try another dealership!

Sounds electrical. First suspects would be forward O2 sensors, coilpacks seem less likely unless they were damaged by water penetration (unlikely unless you power wash the engine bay).

yea not sure! I guess Nissan is sending the engineer out on the 16th. So will see what he can put together. Car runs great, but that damn lights is annoying!

Any update on this? Did they send an engineer to check out the car?

Keep a written record of every time you go, if you wanna try lemon, it varies in each state, so familiarize yourself with lemon laws there. You need to show that they tried, and failed to fix the car... Good luck.

Well the date got moved to today due to my steering wheel lock going out 2 weeks ago. So the engineer from nissan is checking the car out today. So when I find out I will let you know what they say.

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Was your Z purchased new in March of 2011? Or did you buy it used? I don't know the rules for your state, but I don't believe that lemon laws usually apply to used cars. I only bring it up because your sig says your Z is a 2009.

Here in Illinois, for instance, you must be the original owner and have documented proof that the dealer has attempted & failed to correct a specific problem more than 4 times OR that the car has been out-of-service for more than 30 calendar days within the first 12 months or 12,000 miles of ownership.

Check your state lemon laws. They're easily found on Google. They're also printed in your maintenance booklet that came with the Z (by law). If you think you qualify, then contact an attorney in your area that specializes in lemon laws. He/She will be able to offer advice on how you can proceed.

My CEL went off and I needed a new MAFS. The light went on two weeks later and off two weeks after that. Very annoying.

Check local lemon laws

jay
 

could be bad gas or to much ethanol in the gas , gas tank need to be drain and refilled , and monitor the ethanol content with a scantool.

So basically all the engineers have done so far is run test, gather data, supposely they replaced 2 ecu sensors, and fuel injectors. Now they want the car back today to "run another test" and gather data. My advisor at the nissan dealership thinks that their going to replace the ECM next. So will see. I wish they could just figure this **** out! I'm tired of driving an Altima. lol

I thought they had said they already changed your ECM?

yea thats what i thought, and when questioned it, my advisor told me they changed a sensor??? So now the car is at the dealership once again being tested! I feel like I have no idea what they are doing to my car. They really could be telling me anything! :shakes head:

What dealer is your car at? Sounds like you need to take it somewhere else.

Have they still not taken a look at ignition system components?

when life giv u lemon u make limenade

remember this my frend

I'm no tech so can't help you there. but imo it's getting close to making lemonade. about 8 years ago we had to return a neon,don't ask wife wanted one. anyway they put on some kind of computer scanner and she drove it for
a week like that and after that they threw their hands up and told her to pick
out a new one the lot. good luck with your Z

Thanks man, I just dont want to let her go! lol I just want the car fixed. Because it runs great! its just that stupid light has to be mechanical.

So what did you do after that happened? Thats whats happening with mine.

It's at Larry H. Miller Nissan on dobson! And supposely they have these engineers looking at it and running all these tests. They have been doing this for 4 weeks now! I think maybe I should just go get the car. Not sure where to take it. VIVID HELP!!!!! lol

It sounds like to me, your getting the run around by the dealer. I would truely wonder if there are any engineers working on this problem. I would ask for detailed information and contact numbers from nissian corporation, as to who is handling this problem and exactly how and when this problem will be resolved.
I have a feeling your car is just sitting at the dealership.

My nephew had the same issue with a korean made car with a bad rod bearing, the dealer just tried to keep changing the oil and filter for 3 weeks calling it an engine knock, his mother ended up filing a complaint with the attorney generals office in her home state and 4 weeks later the company replaced engine. So at this point you need to file a complaint in your home state and make sure you have started a claim with the Corporation or manufacturer.

prior to the Jeep in my signature I bought a brand new Cherokee in 06 and the transmission went out three times, had oil consumption, and gas mileage was below 10MPG! SO after a year and a half of dealership trips they cut me a deal on a new jeep saying the MSRP I got on the standard cherokee they would give me on a cherokee overland HEMI, which was a 17K difference, not truly a lemon but a great deal since the dealership felt bad for selling me a lemon...

go to a new dealer if these guys keep ******* around and keep in touch with Nissan corporate to document this continually, worst comes to worst, get a local attorney, cant hurt.

GL!

Yea the dealership says the engineers want the car back to run test and gather more data. They supposely just changed the injectors last week. Now I dropped the car off again on monday. The engineers supposely were suppose to come yesterday sometime to gather data from the ECM. So thanks for the help I cant keep dealing with this, I'm not trying to pay almost 700 a month for the car and insurance for a car I hardly drive. So I will look into the attorney generals office. Because i'm not sure if I can lemon the car.

You really need to stop pussy footing around with them and play hard ball, contact your state attorney generals office and also lodge a formal complaint with the company, and make sure you document every, phone call, letter and visits to dealers, making sure you get a signed copy of every time the car has come in for service about what was actually done to the car.

Nothing will get done until they see that you are serious.

Did you ever really get to talk to or meet this factory engineer ?

No I just sent my advisor an email saying I want the car back today. And if there was any possible way to talk to these engineers. Their has been times where he doesn't even give me a receipt. He's he cant close the ticket yet until they are done with the car.

I'd do what gsxr750 is recommending. Also, contact Nissan North America. If there really are Nissan engineers involved, they'll know. I'm sure they can look your car up by VIN. Get them involved, and let them know you feel like the dealership is jerking you around.

You may actually want to go to another nissan dealer and have them run your VIN # thru their dealer repair system and this may actually show that your car has been a lemon, even before you purchased it and the dealer or private seller, knew very well of these problems and stuck you with the car.

If you purchased the car from a party and they knowingly sold you a lemon, you probably would have a good case for a lawsuit.

Remember the woman lawyer who sued a car company for the hybrid that didn't deliver the advertized MPG rating and she won in california.