I think my dealer covered up an accident.

msb3079 · 12-30-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383

In Georgia (I don't know about other states)a dealer can do $500 or under in repairs to a new car and by law they don't have to tell the customer.

Just cause the side was repainted it doesn't mean it was replaced some A'hole could have walked thru the parking lot and keyed the whole side.

Dealer's that have body shops usually give the new car salesman the est. and lets say it is $825 the new car manager knows that he will have to tell the cust. so the body shop discounts the price on paper to meet the $500 threshold.

Just a thought

This is definitely more than $500. Thanks though.

theDreamer · 12-30-2011, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rui Z

Im no lawyer, but that sounds illegal.

Happens more than you think.
Remember most cars are transported in open trailers so they get hit with a lot of things along the way, damaged when being unloaded, test drives.

msb3079 · 12-30-2011, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Thechidz

post the name of dealership here to help future buyers

better yet, do what Ben did:

mr-sk's Part Out Thread! (LTH, AAM CBE, HKS, DynoDash)

Review: Dishonorable experience at Gwinnett Place Certified GTR Dealer, Duluth GA - NAGTROC - The Nissan GT-R Owners Club

it's a long story, but worth the reading. A win for pissed off consumers everywhere

I'll read in a bit, thanks.

I bought it from Woodbury Nissan in Woodbury, NJ.

leeyeegue · 01-13-2012, 12:12 PM

its actually legal for dealers to sell framed damaged vehicles without disclosing it..

typically what can happen is that the car got scratched up on the truck or "fell" off. or a manager who demoed it crashed it.

dealers to dealers have to disclose frame damage, dealers to customers no.

NAAA (National Auto Auction Association) considers any replaced fenders or quarter panels frame damage...

sorry to hear that.

msb3079 · 06-04-2012, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by leeyeegue

its actually legal for dealers to sell framed damaged vehicles without disclosing it..

typically what can happen is that the car got scratched up on the truck or "fell" off. or a manager who demoed it crashed it.

dealers to dealers have to disclose frame damage, dealers to customers no.

NAAA (National Auto Auction Association) considers any replaced fenders or quarter panels frame damage...

sorry to hear that.

Actually... you are wrong. That is very far from legal. Different laws in different states though. But that is not legal in NJ.

msb3079 · 06-04-2012, 01:29 PM

Hey guys...

Kept forgetting to give updates.

Nissan ended up only paying a payment as a "kind gesture" since it was a dealer issue (which is was). They did however contact the dealer and start things there.
I went to the dealer about a month ago.. and after about 2 hours of talking/explaining/negotiating... they agreed to do what I asked.

They took my 2009 370Z, which I owed $27,000 on. And they "gave" me a 2012 370 Touring Sport 6MT. Basically everything that my 2009 had. There were no Montery Blues anywhere around... so I ended up going with Gun Metallic.

They basically swapped out my loans. They took care of my 2009 and sold me the 2012 (MSRP $42,900) for $25,000 plus taxes and whichever.. which equaled to exactly what I owed on my 2009.

I could have gotten more out of going to a lawyer like many suggested... but as I told the dealer, I figured this would be the easiest solution for all involved. They eventually agreed. The entire process was pretty painless... just waiting for the the from out of state.

Everyone actually treated me very well. Glad it's over.

Jasonle · 06-04-2012, 01:32 PM

Glad it worked out for you man!

Ubetit · 06-04-2012, 01:33 PM

Sounds like a very fair offer to me.

gbrettin · 06-04-2012, 01:45 PM

I think the main thing was that they took care of the issue by doing what was right. I'm glad to hear it worked out.

msb3079 · 06-04-2012, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin

I think the main thing was that they took care of the issue by doing what was right. I'm glad to hear it worked out.

Yeah, exactly. I agree.

Thanks guys.

MattP725 · 06-04-2012, 02:19 PM

I'm not even sure you could have gotten more from a lawyer... sounds like you made out like a bandit. You have positive equity in a brand new car which is nearly impossible.

Montery blue is no longer offered hence why you couldn't find it.

Glad to hear they worked it out.

slo · 06-04-2012, 02:50 PM

Wow, at least it all worked out in the end. Sucks you had to go through all the frustration but it worked out.

PapoZalsa · 06-04-2012, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattP725

I'm not even sure you could have gotten more from a lawyer... sounds like you made out like a bandit. You have positive equity in a brand new car which is nearly impossible.

Montery blue is no longer offered hence why you couldn't find it.

Glad to hear they worked it out.

Good so is one less MB on the road!

msb3079 · 06-04-2012, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattP725

I'm not even sure you could have gotten more from a lawyer... sounds like you made out like a bandit. You have positive equity in a brand new car which is nearly impossible.

Montery blue is no longer offered hence why you couldn't find it.

Glad to hear they worked it out.

I may have made out... but it was deserved. What they did was FRAUD.

msb3079 · 06-04-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

Good so is one lees MB on the road!

The MB is so sweet and I do miss it (alot)... but the GM is great also.

06-04-2012, 01:29 PM	#51 (permalink)
msb3079 Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: collingswood.nj Posts: 133 Drives: 12 Touring Sport 6MT Rep Power: 16	Hey guys... Kept forgetting to give updates. Nissan ended up only paying a payment as a "kind gesture" since it was a dealer issue (which is was). They did however contact the dealer and start things there. I went to the dealer about a month ago.. and after about 2 hours of talking/explaining/negotiating... they agreed to do what I asked. They took my 2009 370Z, which I owed $27,000 on. And they "gave" me a 2012 370 Touring Sport 6MT. Basically everything that my 2009 had. There were no Montery Blues anywhere around... so I ended up going with Gun Metallic. They basically swapped out my loans. They took care of my 2009 and sold me the 2012 (MSRP $42,900) for $25,000 plus taxes and whichever.. which equaled to exactly what I owed on my 2009. I could have gotten more out of going to a lawyer like many suggested... but as I told the dealer, I figured this would be the easiest solution for all involved. They eventually agreed. The entire process was pretty painless... just waiting for the the from out of state. Everyone actually treated me very well. Glad it's over. Last edited by msb3079; 06-04-2012 at 01:32 PM.

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