I think my dealer covered up an accident.

theDreamer

Something like that will not show up on carfax, anything that happens at a dealership prior to it being titled will not show up.

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msb3079

$7,000 off. Seemed worth it. But with my experiences over the past year, it was not.

I highly doubt anything would come up on CarFax if the car was never sold. They seem dumb, but not that dumb. I'm sure they had the dude across the street repair it.

jayl

what about going and talking to one of the service guys there? just to try and find out more... however from what you have said i doubt that they would provide any info...

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msb3079

You know, to my face... they've always been VERY accommodating. (Maybe now I know why, ha).

I'm almost thinking of going and talking to the one manager I dealt with. I know someone mentioned about giving them a "head start"... but on what really? Either they are going to deny it or not. There's no "story" they could really come up with. Either they have a story of what happened (guilt) or they would deny it and have no clue.
If anything.. it'd give them a chance to handle it privately before Nissan and/or lawyers hearing about it.

I know most of you seem to be against talking to them... but I don't see how it could put me in a worse position than I am now.

USMCASA

from working at a body shop about 3 years ago, i can tell you first hand this happens more than you would think. there was a dodge dealer that brought us a "new" truck less than 15 miles on it and it needed a bed side replaced and cab corner fixed. we fixed it, and they sold it as a new vehicle even though it was more than 25% of the value of the vehicle in damage...

don't just walk in and buy your vehicle, check it out, then double check it. dealers are crooks. all of them, yes even the ones you think are good.



edit: things to look for:
overspray
tape edges
uneven slickness between body panels (orange peel or lack there of)
rubbing/buffing compound
uneven edges or poor fitment of body panels
aftermarket parts
paint not matching, albeit no plastic parts ever match the unibody from the factory

Just be smart about it

Thechidz

it's not just fraud to you, it's just plain fraud

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Thechidz

if they're really crooked they might try to pass the blame off on you saying you did the damage. That's what I would be paranoid about.

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msb3079

Well, yeah. If they are going to say they didn't do it, then that would be obvious. But if they're going to say it, they're going to say it either way.

Honestly... I think they'd be more likely to admit to me and take care of it with me, compared to them admitting fraud to Nissan, which would be a much bigger deal. Or something going to court. I feel like going to them, would give me more of a chance or an extra chance. Usually you go to the source first, then go from there. Almost like "chain of command".. I don't know...

kenchan

Ask for the car to be lemoned based on the findings at the bodyshop. Or trade in for a new or used car.

I'm alittle surprised you did not catch all of this during the delivery. Dealers will often times do repairs before delivery and consider it new. This is why I don't ever take delivery of the car until I do a test drive of the exact car I am buying and careful check.

gbrettin

You expected a new car and that is what they should have sold you. There is nothing wrong with getting what you paid for. Would you have bought it if you knew there was damage. They should have told you what the deal was upfront for better or worse. Heck, I'd make them pay for all lawyer fees too.

On the flip side... Maybe they could up your warranty to 100k bumper to bumper if you are good with the car.

Personally, I'd talk to the lawyer. I also like to talk a big game on the Interwebs.

msb3079

Thanks, guys. I mentioned on Twitter and Nissan has been in touch with me. I'll go down that route, first.

Rui Z

First, you need to get a thorough inspection on your car. Based on the findings you need to decide what to do, because if there is frame damage don't even bother going to the dealership. Get a lawyer.

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msb3079

Good point. I keep forgetting about the frame part.

kenchan

While it was repaired (typical since things can happen during transit) it was new and the work is warranted probably for the life of the vehicle to the original buyer. He also got a super discount. While I don't agree with their practice i dont think they did anything wrong. I think the buyer needs to be more diligent and lemoned the car long time ago. like I said get the estimate and details of the damage. That may be your ticket out.

msb3079

REALLY?

You think I need to check out a NEW car more? I mean, it was NEW. It had small issues I knew of, that they took care of... but more that arose... and then more leading to this. It's just not acceptable.

It was sold as NEW - LEFTOVER. That does not mean major damage is acceptable. (without being informed of it).

I did get a lot off.. and for good reason. It was a 2009 ... 2011s were on their way in a few months, and had miles, etc. But not worth this other damage and not worth it never really being up to par. There are many many more details that I'm not really going into.