Lots of wrecked Z's...

ImportConvert · 12-28-2011, 09:05 AM

I constantly see posts on here about it, and now that I am planning on getting one I am done talking crap and am worried.

What happens most often? Back end snaps around suddenly in corners with no warning? People are hitting corners and the car is pushing and they aren't balancing with the brake and are sliding into things? Freak bad luck with wet roads or something? Idiots nailing the throttle in a corner?

MB_Z · 12-28-2011, 09:41 AM

My accident was caused by some one else. Box truck made a left directly in front of me at an intersection and claimed he never even saw me coming. Must have had the cloaking device on and forgot.

m4a1mustang · 12-28-2011, 09:43 AM

Either their mom or their friend turns VDC off.

Red__Zed · 12-28-2011, 09:45 AM

most guys are hitting stuff with the front end of the car. I imagine it's a lot of understeering and not being able to get enough weight back on the front wheels.

m4a1mustang · 12-28-2011, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

most guys are hitting stuff with the front end of the car. I imagine it's a lot of understeering and not being able to get enough weight back on the front wheels.

A lot of people also spin them out because they turn VDC off and have no clue how to drive.

Remember, the Z is an inexpensive car and there are a lot of young and inexperienced owners... it's bound to happen.

Pharmacist · 12-28-2011, 10:29 AM

mine was caused by a guy turning left who failed to yield the right of way and cut me off. Z, ferrari, or minivan, i would have still had an accident regardless of what i was driving. but to answer your question, most of the accidents are caused by idiots turning off vdc (usually during rain) and driving more aggressively without knowing how to handle rwd car or correct oversteers. if you're coming from a z06, then you already know how to handle rwd cars and fishtailing. driving the z won't be a problem for you. of course, there's always the chance that another idiot on the road will cut you off and destroy your car.

m4a1mustang · 12-28-2011, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

mine was caused by a guy turning left who failed to yield the right of way and cut me off. Z, ferrari, or minivan, i would have still had an accident regardless of what i was driving. but to answer your question, most of the accidents are caused by idiots turning off vdc (usually during rain) and driving more aggressively without knowing how to handle rwd car or correct oversteers. if you're coming from a z06, then you already know how to handle rwd cars and fishtailing. driving the z won't be a problem for you. of course, there's always the chance that another idiot on the road will cut you off and destroy your car.

Red__Zed · 12-28-2011, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

A lot of people also spin them out because they turn VDC off and have no clue how to drive.

Remember, the Z is an inexpensive car and there are a lot of young and inexperienced owners... it's bound to happen.

also true. The geico numbers that I saw seemed to indicate that something like 75% of single car accidents in the 370z were front end collisions though...they justified the RBA by pointing out increased repair cost for front end damage to jack up rates without demonstrating the actual number of accidents was rising.

USMCASA · 12-28-2011, 10:35 AM

my accident was caused by deer... i would have been a little less upset if i hit a unicorn. got it back last thursday and looks good as new, especially since they put all new factory parts on it. i wouldn't have it any other way

Trips · 12-28-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I constantly see posts on here about it, and now that I am planning on getting one I am done talking crap and am worried.

What happens most often? Back end snaps around suddenly in corners with no warning? People are hitting corners and the car is pushing and they aren't balancing with the brake and are sliding into things? Freak bad luck with wet roads or something? Idiots nailing the throttle in a corner?

Do you promise?

I think your worring to much, And basicaly you answered your own question.

the chances you take in life are just that nothings guaranteed

ImportConvert · 12-28-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple's

Do you promise?

I think your worring to much, And basicaly you answered your own question.

the chances you take in life are just that nothings guarenteed

Now you backed me against a wall talking about promises and all..

All joking aside, I want a 370Z, and Lou has the "nearest" one to me, on a time-line scale, and even that won't happen until mid-feb. I have to post SOMETHING to keep me busy. I was just curious if there was anything "ugly" about the 370 at the limit that bit people in the arse. I have always owned and driven RWD V8 cars, most of the manuals, and understand the principal of it, but I fully admit I am not god's gift to driving. I leave all my nannies on in the Z06. That car can be a hand-full no-matter how good you think you are. So far I don't think the nannies have bailed me out, because I don't do things I am unsure about in it, but it's REALLY nice knowing they are there. Very unobtrusive, as well.

Anyway, forgive me for killing time while I wait on a 370Z like I want to arrive in America. Looks like Lou's is my best bet.

tonybui · 12-28-2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

mine was caused by a guy turning left who failed to yield the right of way and cut me off. Z, ferrari, or minivan, i would have still had an accident regardless of what i was driving. but to answer your question, most of the accidents are caused by idiots turning off vdc (usually during rain) and driving more aggressively without knowing how to handle rwd car or correct oversteers. if you're coming from a z06, then you already know how to handle rwd cars and fishtailing. driving the z won't be a problem for you. of course, there's always the chance that another idiot on the road will cut you off and destroy your car.

After they crash their Z, they will know how to drive a RWD car in the future

Red__Zed · 12-28-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Now you backed me against a wall talking about promises and all..

All joking aside, I want a 370Z, and Lou has the "nearest" one to me, on a time-line scale, and even that won't happen until mid-feb. I have to post SOMETHING to keep me busy. I was just curious if there was anything "ugly" about the 370 at the limit that bit people in the arse. I have always owned and driven RWD V8 cars, most of the manuals, and understand the principal of it, but I fully admit I am not god's gift to driving. I leave all my nannies on in the Z06. That car can be a hand-full no-matter how good you think you are. So far I don't think the nannies have bailed me out, because I don't do things I am unsure about in it, but it's REALLY nice knowing they are there. Very unobtrusive, as well.

Anyway, forgive me for killing time while I wait on a 370Z like I want to arrive in America. Looks like Lou's is my best bet.

there's nothing ugly about the 370z at the limit, at least from a control standpoint. anyone with experience driving a RWD car shouldn't have much of an issue driving one, provided they don't do anything overtly moronic.

The Z really does have great table manners, and it is very easy to keep the rear end in control.

Pharmacist · 12-28-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Now you backed me against a wall talking about promises and all..

All joking aside, I want a 370Z, and Lou has the "nearest" one to me, on a time-line scale, and even that won't happen until mid-feb. I have to post SOMETHING to keep me busy. I was just curious if there was anything "ugly" about the 370 at the limit that bit people in the arse. I have always owned and driven RWD V8 cars, most of the manuals, and understand the principal of it, but I fully admit I am not god's gift to driving. I leave all my nannies on in the Z06. That car can be a hand-full no-matter how good you think you are. So far I don't think the nannies have bailed me out, because I don't do things I am unsure about in it, but it's REALLY nice knowing they are there. Very unobtrusive, as well.

Anyway, forgive me for killing time while I wait on a 370Z like I want to arrive in America. Looks like Lou's is my best bet.

never driven a z06, or any other rwd car for that matter. but i'd say the z is better balanced and better handling than the corvette. it comes from the factory with a hint of understeer, and you can cure that on the track with a bit of throttle to push it into neutral. so on the road, unless you do something stupid like hard throttle on a slippery road, you won't get the snap oversteer and fishtailing you can get with corvettes. keep the vdc on when it's raining or snowing and you'll be fine.

IDZRVIT · 12-28-2011, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

....... hand-full no-matter how good you think you are.

And therein lies part of the problem for some of these accidents - the drivers just aren't as good at driving as they think they are!

12-28-2011, 09:05 AM	#1 (permalink)
ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7627	Lots of wrecked Z's... I constantly see posts on here about it, and now that I am planning on getting one I am done talking crap and am worried. What happens most often? Back end snaps around suddenly in corners with no warning? People are hitting corners and the car is pushing and they aren't balancing with the brake and are sliding into things? Freak bad luck with wet roads or something? Idiots nailing the throttle in a corner?

12-28-2011, 09:41 AM	#2 (permalink)
MB_Z Base Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 69 Drives: 11 370Z BS M6 SP Rep Power: 15	My accident was caused by some one else. Box truck made a left directly in front of me at an intersection and claimed he never even saw me coming. Must have had the cloaking device on and forgot. __________________ Factory NISMO suspension l HPS/K&N l F.I. 12" CBE

12-28-2011, 09:43 AM	#3 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Either their mom or their friend turns VDC off. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

12-28-2011, 10:29 AM	#6 (permalink)
Pharmacist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 1,249 Drives: 09 370z Sport 6MT Rep Power: 18	mine was caused by a guy turning left who failed to yield the right of way and cut me off. Z, ferrari, or minivan, i would have still had an accident regardless of what i was driving. but to answer your question, most of the accidents are caused by idiots turning off vdc (usually during rain) and driving more aggressively without knowing how to handle rwd car or correct oversteers. if you're coming from a z06, then you already know how to handle rwd cars and fishtailing. driving the z won't be a problem for you. of course, there's always the chance that another idiot on the road will cut you off and destroy your car. __________________ 2009 370z Sport Touring/Nismo shift Knob/Z1 motorsports 34 row oil cooler

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Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	most guys are hitting stuff with the front end of the car. I imagine it's a lot of understeering and not being able to get enough weight back on the front wheels.

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