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Old 12-28-2011, 11:25 PM   #181 (permalink)
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370Z is definitely a fun car. Way different when you are comparing it to a Z06. If I were in your shoes I definitely couldn't make the jump simply because the power hit would be too big for me to overcome... but I don't doubt that you will have fun with it.
I understand, but like you said...I'm not using that 505bhp all the time. Where I am moving to, it "has no place" because of all the mountain roads, etc. with sharp corners and whatnot. I would only use 2-300whp of it for the most part during my "spirited" drives, so then it comes to a point that I am paying for things I am not using.

It's flat here where I live now, except for on/off ramps. Power is all that matters for the most part here. Not so much where I am going (Fayettville, AR).

Then I have the other issue...what next? A SRT-10? I mean, I can't keep living in the 6-7#/bhp range on my income and still expect to buy the 30-50 acres and house I want. Compromises must be made. There will be a time to be a dirty old man in a car too fast for him later on in life. The Z06 was a "I want to do it once, and to insure this, I will do it now!" type thing. Love it, but it's time to move on from this, too.

I don't know if that makes sense to you or you agree with it, but it's clear to me?
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I understand, but like you said...I'm not using that 505bhp all the time. Where I am moving to, it "has no place" because of all the mountain roads, etc. with sharp corners and whatnot. I would only use 2-300whp of it for the most part during my "spirited" drives, so then it comes to a point that I am paying for things I am not using.

It's flat here where I live now, except for on/off ramps. Power is all that matters for the most part here. Not so much where I am going (Fayettville, AR).

Then I have the other issue...what next? A SRT-10? I mean, I can't keep living in the 6-7#/bhp range on my income and still expect to buy the 30-50 acres and house I want. Compromises must be made. There will be a time to be a dirty old man in a car too fast for him later on in life. The Z06 was a "I want to do it once, and to insure this, I will do it now!" type thing. Love it, but it's time to move on from this, too.

I don't know if that makes sense to you or you agree with it, but it's clear to me?
You've definitely got to find a happy medium based on who you are as a driver (and where you are in life)... some people could push a Z06 pretty hard on the street (probably a bit dangerous) while some might not even be able to push a Miata hard on the street... so what's right for one driver isn't always right for another.

It's down to personal preference. And I think I speak for most of the car guys here when I say it's almost impossible to truly be happy with any one car given how demanding we are about performance and also because we tend to be very curious about cars we haven't yet owned. We end up jumping around to a lot of different cars. We have fun with them and then move on to the next adventure. Some of us just do it more frequently than others.
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You've definitely got to find a happy medium based on who you are as a driver (and where you are in life)... some people could push a Z06 pretty hard on the street (probably a bit dangerous) while some might not even be able to push a Miata hard on the street... so what's right for one driver isn't always right for another.

It's down to personal preference. And I think I speak for most of the car guys here when I say it's almost impossible to truly be happy with any one car given how demanding we are about performance and also because we tend to be very curious about cars we haven't yet owned. We end up jumping around to a lot of different cars. We have fun with them and then move on to the next adventure. Some of us just do it more frequently than others.
definitely. and if you drive the same car every day, you will make that jump faster because you will get sick of it faster. The parts you like about it for fun, (loud, stiff, fast) will start to bother you when you need it as your DD and it quickly turns into (noisy, uncomfortable, poor gas mileage).

that being said, i'd rather DD a fun car than a POS, if i could only have one.
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definitely. and if you drive the same car every day, you will make that jump faster because you will get sick of it faster. The parts you like about it for fun, (loud, stiff, fast) will start to bother you when you need it as your DD and it quickly turns into (noisy, uncomfortable, poor gas mileage).

that being said, i'd rather DD a fun car than a POS, if i could only have one.

Well, the Z06 is stiff and loud, but not too loud, and the gas mileage is killer. I get about 26 on the freeway. I don't tool around town in it, so I'm at a loss, there, but my DIC says the average over the life of the car has been 18-19mpg or so, last I cleared it out.

I do not feel I am getting my money out of my Z06 because I don't track it, and I don't feel safe on the street pushing the car like that. The street has hazards that a track doesn't, and it's not wise. I feel I would get my money out of the 370Z much moreso. Hence my trade when "my" car is available in the US.
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Well, the Z06 is stiff and loud, but not too loud, and the gas mileage is killer. I get about 26 on the freeway. I don't tool around town in it, so I'm at a loss, there, but my DIC says the average over the life of the car has been 18-19mpg or so, last I cleared it out.

I do not feel I am getting my money out of my Z06 because I don't track it, and I don't feel safe on the street pushing the car like that. The street has hazards that a track doesn't, and it's not wise. I feel I would get my money out of the 370Z much moreso. Hence my trade when "my" car is available in the US.
i thikn you should still trade cars with someone for a week before making the switch. i'm sure you'd have no problem finding someone who would be willing to let you drive their Z for a week in exchange for your Z06 for a week. lets face it, none of us really NEED anything over 200hp to get from a-b... the rest is just how much fun you can have
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i thikn you should still trade cars with someone for a week before making the switch. i'm sure you'd have no problem finding someone who would be willing to let you drive their Z for a week in exchange for your Z06 for a week. lets face it, none of us really NEED anything over 200hp to get from a-b... the rest is just how much fun you can have
You're right... but we all need at least 9lb/HP or better!
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How crazy would it be to DD and ariel atom?
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you can't. not street legal in US or Canada. You can in Europe though, and some people do drive them on the road. I actually thought about getting one as a track toy, but not being street legal and a very hefty 70k purchase price quickly made me look elsewhere.
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you can't. not street legal in US or Canada. You can in Europe though, and some people do drive them on the road. I actually thought about getting one as a track toy, but not being street legal and a very hefty 70k purchase price quickly made me look elsewhere.
pretty easy to register as a kit car, at least in the states.
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That would make it even crazier to do

I thought they were more like $40k. There's one for sale on eBay for like $50k.

Also you can actually have a track session with an ariel atom at VIR. It's like $500 for 3 x 15 minute sessions on the short course or $1600 4 x 20 minute sessions on the long course. Very tempting, I would MUCH rather do this than get an oil cooler and track my car. Though with an oil cooler I can go to multiple track days.
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Base price is $49k for an aerial atom, that is bare bones with a 4 banger honda motor (forget which one).
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k20. it is the civic si motor
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Oh so they went with some POS.
Just went to the website, looks like they have a V8 Atom now also, not sure I would want to drive that one.
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