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ImportConvert 12-27-2011 07:14 PM

Consumer Reports...
 
Looks like the 370Z stops shorter than my Z06 in both dry and wet, accelerates 0-30 in the same amount of time, changes double-lanes at a higher speed, and has the worst possible rating that Consumer Reports can hand out for reliability.

All of this makes me say...wtf? and is the 370Z really such a pile of crap (least reliable sporty car was the title it won, I believe)? That had not been my impression up to this point.

nuTinmuch 12-27-2011 07:40 PM

Yes.

In all seriousness, this has been brought up many times before: http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-w...ty-rating.html

TreeSemdyZee 12-27-2011 07:57 PM

I wouldn't trust Consumer Reports to rate a Pet Rock.

PapoZalsa 12-27-2011 08:00 PM

Along with Consumer Report's ratings some others magazines has been discussed in different threads. Most of them just rate the cars in some areas.

However, what were the areas tested for reliability? If they were brakes, higher temps and/or paint we know about that but I don't think we owen a piece of crap.

Even that I own a Z I'm not bias, it has it defects like any other car, But a lot of other cars that I have own has been rated crappy too.

m4a1mustang 12-27-2011 08:00 PM

Yes all 370Zs explode within the first 4 years of ownership.

ImportConvert 12-27-2011 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa (Post 1464947)
Along with Consumer Report's ratings some others magazines has been discussed in different threads. Most of them just rate the cars in some areas.

However, what were the areas tested for reliability? If they were brakes, higher temps and/or paint we know about that but I don't think we owen a piece of crap.

Even that I own a Z I'm not bias, it has it defects like any other car, But a lot of other cars that I have own has been rated crappy too.

Brakes, Engine, Transmission all got shat on. Same for body integrity. Trim and paint got tore up, too.

Basically...everything but the climate control system, which received glowing marks!

ImportConvert 12-27-2011 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nuTinmuch (Post 1464905)
Yes.

In all seriousness, this has been brought up many times before: http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-w...ty-rating.html

Jeez. Looks like they have had a hard-on for the car...forever.

Does anyone have REAL numbers? I want to know PPH, or similar. Everything I read on here over the last year or so has led me to believe that it does have issues, but certainly comparable to corvette, mustang, and porsche, if not better.

PapoZalsa 12-27-2011 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1464956)
Brakes, Engine, Transmission all got shat on. Same for body integrity. Trim and paint got tore up, too.

Basically...everything but the climate control system, which received glowing marks!

They probably got provided a "Lemon" to rate. :confused:

theDreamer 12-27-2011 08:12 PM

The 370z is by far the worst car ever built in automotive history. Honestly, Nissan should be sued for this and buy back all 370z sold to consumers.

Red__Zed 12-27-2011 08:16 PM

on the actual reliability issues, there's really only the trans issue, diff issue, and oil consumption, which the majority of the forum seems to indicate are no longer issues.

CR lumps in things like ECU whine, crappy paint, creaks/rattles, etc into their ratings, which aren't actually reliability issues and cause the car to score notably lower for things that arguably aren't real issues.

UNKNOWN_370 12-27-2011 08:26 PM

I wrote a thread about this once and I was pretty much being painted as a fanboy. Lol. I even had True Delta's "real life" repair statistics. According to true Delta, the miata was the best, the Z came in second. We had 4 out of 100 vehicles in repair. The miata had 3 in 100. The genesis coupe and mustang were in the 50's out of 100. The camaro and challenger were slightly lower.

Some thought reliability was a affected by an early 370z forum protest concerning oil consumption and oil overheating issues? Maybe? But it does seem consumer reports have a hard-on for the car. Everyone I know with Z's and G's over the last 2 generations have had virtually problem free vehicles. Even going further. Nissan is the highest owned car amongst my peers aside from chevy. All my nissan compatriots all seem to have exceptional reliability. The only year of car I can recall having some issues were 2003 altimas and the 2003-2008 maximas. On both these cars. Problems began after 150k miles. So is that truely unreliable???

Anyway. Consumer reports always seems to find a way to bypass known issues on certain car brands like toyota, honda and hyundai. There reviews were heavily scrutinized in the past during the toyota recalls. Hmmmm? Consumer reports, corporate hacks???? I think so!

m4a1mustang 12-27-2011 08:34 PM

The crappy thing is that LOTS of people put a lot of faith in what they have to say. So if they get it wrong or right it usually has a big impact on whatever it is that they are rating!

sonic370 12-27-2011 08:41 PM

Like one forum member said i wouldn't trust consumer reports.
unless your looking for a washing machine or a dvd player...

besides how can you really rate a car that just came out in 09.
FYI had my 09 since day one. total check engine lights 1 for a new gas cap.
just hit 34,000 its a DD. no rattles, inside and outside has held up very well.

i know that there has been some issues from some members but some of those should be expected if you track a car.

overall imho the Z has held up well. plus this car will not looked dated as it
ages. like the 350 does.

gurneyeagle 12-27-2011 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 1464943)
I wouldn't trust Consumer Reports to rate a Pet Rock.

:bowrofl:

Post of the day! :tup:

m4a1mustang 12-27-2011 08:55 PM

I've said time and time again that almost all cars these days are very reliable. Manufacturing processes are very advanced. Tolerances are very tight. Quality control is generally very good.

I think what a lot of people seem to forget is that a lot of manufacturers share suppliers. Lots of parts on my 5.0 are made by suppliers that make parts for the 370Z... Tokico for example.

kenchan 12-27-2011 09:25 PM

I don't know of any car enthusiast that reads CR for car review reference.

Zemurray 12-27-2011 09:47 PM

I can't believe you are still posting about this car and people are still responding. I mean, 6 months and almost 3000 post and you are still debating if you want one. The amount of effort you are putting into this you could have hand built an Ariel atom by now.

ImportConvert 12-27-2011 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Zemurray (Post 1465161)
I can't believe you are still posting about this car and people are still responding. I mean, 6 months and almost 3000 post and you are still debating if you want one. The amount of effort you are putting into this you could have hand built an Ariel atom by now.

What debate? I'm getting one. Lou has one coming in and we have spoken via PM and are on the same page. Unless my car becomes worthless, Lou decides not to deal with me, or the bottom falls out of my economy, it's going down. CR rating or not. That horse has been put down and buried. Take the thread as an isolated observation, not a continuation.

ImportConvert 12-27-2011 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1464979)
on the actual reliability issues, there's really only the trans issue, diff issue, and oil consumption, which the majority of the forum seems to indicate are no longer issues.

CR lumps in things like ECU whine, crappy paint, creaks/rattles, etc into their ratings, which aren't actually reliability issues and cause the car to score notably lower for things that arguably aren't real issues.

I have seen a lot of posts on "crappy paint", but the paint on the 370Z looks pretty good to me. I understand and have observed that it is soft, but it's not what I would call bad by any means.

ImportConvert 12-27-2011 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1465039)
I've said time and time again that almost all cars these days are very reliable. Manufacturing processes are very advanced. Tolerances are very tight. Quality control is generally very good.

I think what a lot of people seem to forget is that a lot of manufacturers share suppliers. Lots of parts on my 5.0 are made by suppliers that make parts for the 370Z... Tokico for example.

Which is why I was so shocked that the idiots on the Ford forum kept yelling "Crucify GM". They have no clue what that would done for their mustang. They found out when the Tsunami hit Japan. They can't even paint their cars without Japan. Redneckery puts some serious blinders on people.

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1464994)
I wrote a thread about this once and I was pretty much being painted as a fanboy. Lol. I even had True Delta's "real life" repair statistics. According to true Delta, the miata was the best, the Z came in second. We had 4 out of 100 vehicles in repair. The miata had 3 in 100. The genesis coupe and mustang were in the 50's out of 100. The camaro and challenger were slightly lower.

Some thought reliability was a affected by an early 370z forum protest concerning oil consumption and oil overheating issues? Maybe? But it does seem consumer reports have a hard-on for the car. Everyone I know with Z's and G's over the last 2 generations have had virtually problem free vehicles. Even going further. Nissan is the highest owned car amongst my peers aside from chevy. All my nissan compatriots all seem to have exceptional reliability. The only year of car I can recall having some issues were 2003 altimas and the 2003-2008 maximas. On both these cars. Problems began after 150k miles. So is that truely unreliable???

Anyway. Consumer reports always seems to find a way to bypass known issues on certain car brands like toyota, honda and hyundai. There reviews were heavily scrutinized in the past during the toyota recalls. Hmmmm? Consumer reports, corporate hacks???? I think so!

What did True Delta have to say about the Corvette? It had awesome PPH numbers, but so did the 2010 mustang GT.

I have a G20. It's been a POS and taken a ton of money to maintain. I certainly hope (and am rather sure...) that the 370Z is not like other Nissans like my G20 here.

I do not put any faith in CR, I just wondered wtf? I was also more than a little interested in them claiming the 370Z stopped sooner, and was more nimble than my Z06. Fact/fiction? Edmunds indicates that they are VERY close in both regards, and I do put some stock in them. They test "honest".

m4a1mustang 12-27-2011 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1465257)
Which is why I was so shocked that the idiots on the Ford forum kept yelling "Crucify GM". They have no clue what that would done for their mustang. They found out when the Tsunami hit Japan. They can't even paint their cars without Japan. Redneckery puts some serious blinders on people.



What did True Delta have to say about the Corvette? It had awesome PPH numbers, but so did the 2010 mustang GT.

I have a G20. It's been a POS and taken a ton of money to maintain. I certainly hope (and am rather sure...) that the 370Z is not like other Nissans like my G20 here.

I do not put any faith in CR, I just wondered wtf? I was also more than a little interested in them claiming the 370Z stopped sooner, and was more nimble than my Z06. Fact/fiction? Edmunds indicates that they are VERY close in both regards, and I do put some stock in them. They test "honest".

Not redneckery because it isn't limited to rednecks... it's just fanboyism in general.

ImportConvert 12-27-2011 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1465259)
Not redneckery because it isn't limited to rednecks... it's just fanboyism in general.

Fair enough, I just hate redneckery and was looking to take a shot at it. Maybe because I am tired of the idiots around here (where I live) running their mouths about anyone but white southern baptists who drive F-bodies or pickups.

m4a1mustang 12-27-2011 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1465264)
Fair enough, I just hate redneckery and was looking to take a shot at it. Maybe because I am tired of the idiots around here (where I live) running their mouths about anyone but white southern baptists who drive F-bodies or pickups.

At least they gave us Chick-Fil-A :yum:

ImportConvert 12-27-2011 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1465266)
At least they gave us Chick-Fil-A :yum:

Yes, I used to eat out, too, but I prefer to cook things, now. Trying to drop back to the single-digit body-fat range.

Super Moderator II 12-27-2011 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nuTinmuch (Post 1464905)
Yes.

In all seriousness, this has been brought up many times before: http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-w...ty-rating.html

:iagree:


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