2013 370Z Changes.

ImportConvert · 12-26-2011, 08:55 AM

Meh, I think the 370Z could benefit from:

More extensive use of SMC to lower weight and reduce production costs.

Slightly longer wheel-base with a bit less overhang, but over-all longer body by about 2-3" for down-force and visual appeal. A slightly wider track width to match.

VQ37 with some refinements aimed at NVH reduction and DI base model. VLSD used. @360bhp

A "small" displacement V8 with an oversquare design (think current BMW M3) utilizing DI technology and a Torsen diff on the Sport model for another $4500-5500 @ 400bhp, 4.0L, 8K redline, 290-320tq

NISMO package would cost roughly $10K more than Sport and include in addition to the Sport model, a TASTEFUL carbon-fiber track-oriented kit aimed at creating useful downforce, a'la BOSS/ZR1/Z07 instead of the ugly BS it has now, MRC suspension such as the CTS-V and Z07/ZR1 and the Euro/italian cars that rented it from GM. Ceramic rotors. Torsen diff. geared more aggressively. Leather seats would be optional. R-compound tires optional. Freer flowing exhaust, possibly throttle-sensitive as in the Z06/ZR1, 415bhp, 300-330tq.

This would cover a PROPER model line-up for the 400Z (4.0 V8 in all but base) and give buyers the option to have the V6 model in the low 30's, a competative V8 model in the high 30's/low 40's, and NISMO owners would truly own a track-oriented car capable of performing well on a track, right out of the box--or put the MRC in "Touring" mode and enjoy on the street for high 40's/low to mid 50's depending on how optioned.

It is very do-able at the price-ranges discussed, and a great idea, and pissing in the wind because it will never happen but was fun to type!

It would become a competitor for:
the base mustang/camaro/Genesis/Cayman/Boxter etc.
The 911, base C6/C7 (if LS3 used), mustang GT, Camaro SS, M3 etc.
The Z06, 911 GT3, Cobra, Z28 (some would out-shine it in the straights due to the @400bhp), but on certain tracks it would dominate.)

b1adesofcha0s · 12-26-2011, 09:57 AM

I wish for the 2013 Z Nissan would make an exact copy of the Lamborghini Aventador and offer it for $30-40k. I would definitely buy that

mwatters · 12-26-2011, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

I wish for the 2013 Z Nissan would make an exact copy of the Lamborghini Aventador and offer it for $30-40k. I would definitely buy that

that would be nice if the 2013 nissan Z was more like a lamborghini! but for the price you pay it's still an amazing car!

optiontrader · 12-27-2011, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mwatters

that would be nice if the 2013 nissan Z was more like a lamborghini! but for the price you pay it's still an amazing car!

Agreed. I still walk away from the car after parking in the garage coming home from work amazed at the fun I just had (every day) was gotten for <$40K.

Plus, I can drive it like I own it, and have good confidence I'm not going to piss away going-out-to-dinner money on over-priced maintenance bills.

Supergoji · 12-27-2011, 02:27 AM

Base model needs to step up the game.
Lower seat rails, thinner head liner, thinner seat cushion (for the tall guys), 380-400hp, brembos, oil cooler, flat undertray, less weight.

That is all very easily changed.

Shamu · 12-27-2011, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Supergoji

Base model needs to step up the game.
Lower seat rails, thinner head liner, thinner seat cushion (for the tall guys), 380-400hp, brembos, oil cooler, flat undertray, less weight.

That is all very easily changed.

No kidding. I enjoy my z so much more now that I have put recaros on custom mounts and have a smaller steering wheel. My head doesn't hit headliner anymore and my hands don't hit my legs when I turn! Nissan really fails us bigger drivers but not as much as Mazda or Honda do in their sports cars.

onzedge · 12-27-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Shamu

No kidding. I enjoy my z so much more now that I have put recaros on custom mounts and have a smaller steering wheel. My head doesn't hit headliner anymore and my hands don't hit my legs when I turn! Nissan really fails us bigger drivers but not as much as Mazda or Honda do in their sports cars.

Seriously -- I was goofing off at a Subaru/Mazda dealer a few weeks back and cannot even get into a Miata.

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-27-2011, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

Seriously -- I was goofing off at a Subaru/Mazda dealer a few weeks back and cannot even get into a Miata.

That's what he's saying. Mazdas and hondas are worse to get into than nissan.

Oops my bad... ur agreeing with him. Lol

spearfish25 · 12-27-2011, 07:29 AM

If I had a penny for every time this question was asked, I'd have at least 5c right now.

Red__Zed · 12-27-2011, 11:14 AM

Guess it depends on your build. No problem in an s2k with a helmet, can't fit in a z without dropping the seat ~2inches

FL 4Motion · 12-28-2011, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I just hate when people call Nismo, Nizmo. Its Neice-mo not nizz-mo. Honestly, I don't think it sounds bad. I think TRD is pretty dumb. It sounds like an abbreviation. For turd. Lol.

Nizmo.

Nizmo.

Nizmo.

ImportConvert · 12-28-2011, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

Nizmo.

Nizmo.

Nizmo.

You gots Nawzzz in yo NiZmo?

FL 4Motion · 12-28-2011, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

You gots Nawzzz in yo NiZmo?

damn right I do. It'll blow the welds off the intake brah.

ImportConvert · 12-28-2011, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

damn right I do. It'll blow the welds off the intake brah.

Then you're not double-clutching fast enough and it's pooling.

ImportConvert · 12-28-2011, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Guess it depends on your build. No problem in an s2k with a helmet, can't fit in a z without dropping the seat ~2inches

Height?

12-26-2011, 08:55 AM	#1 (permalink)
ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7627	Meh, I think the 370Z could benefit from: More extensive use of SMC to lower weight and reduce production costs. Slightly longer wheel-base with a bit less overhang, but over-all longer body by about 2-3" for down-force and visual appeal. A slightly wider track width to match. VQ37 with some refinements aimed at NVH reduction and DI base model. VLSD used. @360bhp A "small" displacement V8 with an oversquare design (think current BMW M3) utilizing DI technology and a Torsen diff on the Sport model for another $4500-5500 @ 400bhp, 4.0L, 8K redline, 290-320tq NISMO package would cost roughly $10K more than Sport and include in addition to the Sport model, a TASTEFUL carbon-fiber track-oriented kit aimed at creating useful downforce, a'la BOSS/ZR1/Z07 instead of the ugly BS it has now, MRC suspension such as the CTS-V and Z07/ZR1 and the Euro/italian cars that rented it from GM. Ceramic rotors. Torsen diff. geared more aggressively. Leather seats would be optional. R-compound tires optional. Freer flowing exhaust, possibly throttle-sensitive as in the Z06/ZR1, 415bhp, 300-330tq. This would cover a PROPER model line-up for the 400Z (4.0 V8 in all but base) and give buyers the option to have the V6 model in the low 30's, a competative V8 model in the high 30's/low 40's, and NISMO owners would truly own a track-oriented car capable of performing well on a track, right out of the box--or put the MRC in "Touring" mode and enjoy on the street for high 40's/low to mid 50's depending on how optioned. It is very do-able at the price-ranges discussed, and a great idea, and pissing in the wind because it will never happen but was fun to type! It would become a competitor for: the base mustang/camaro/Genesis/Cayman/Boxter etc. The 911, base C6/C7 (if LS3 used), mustang GT, Camaro SS, M3 etc. The Z06, 911 GT3, Cobra, Z28 (some would out-shine it in the straights due to the @400bhp), but on certain tracks it would dominate.) Last edited by ImportConvert; 12-26-2011 at 09:02 AM.

12-26-2011, 09:57 AM	#2 (permalink)
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12-27-2011, 02:27 AM	#5 (permalink)
Supergoji Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Westchester NY Age: 36 Posts: 311 Drives: Z32tt / Supra tt Rep Power: 257	Base model needs to step up the game. Lower seat rails, thinner head liner, thinner seat cushion (for the tall guys), 380-400hp, brembos, oil cooler, flat undertray, less weight. That is all very easily changed. Last edited by Supergoji; 12-27-2011 at 02:29 AM.

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12-27-2011, 11:14 AM	#10 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	Guess it depends on your build. No problem in an s2k with a helmet, can't fit in a z without dropping the seat ~2inches